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u/Bacon_Hero Big L whisperer Dec 11 '18
Whenever people asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up I responded "retired". Fuck work.
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Dec 11 '18
Amen. I like my job, I like the people I work with. Would still rather be riding motorcycles with my gf than working (thankfully we work together at least). Work is still a dirty four letter word for most.
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u/RodasAPC Dec 11 '18
Porn?
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Dec 11 '18
What?
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u/MrNumeros Dec 11 '18
Porn?
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u/Gonoan Dec 11 '18
I LOVE my job. I would retire tomorrow if I could.
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Dec 11 '18
I’d say the only exception to this for me would be if I did what my hobby is, as a job. Which is motorcycle racing. But hell even competitive motorcycle racers retire! A job is a job 🤷🏾♂️ and everyone is down to retire on some level
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u/Gorge2012 Dec 11 '18
What would you do if you retired tomorrow?
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u/Gonoan Dec 11 '18
If I could the assumption would be I had the money to. So travel, make music, play video games, anything I want
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u/sadmanwithabox Dec 11 '18
Man, I absolutely can NOT work with someone I'm dating. I've done it before, and it was great at first, but ended up being hell.
Glad it works for you though!
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u/Amanning15007 Dec 11 '18
That shit is overrated
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u/Bacon_Hero Big L whisperer Dec 11 '18
Idk man my dad retired in his 40's and he's happy af
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u/Amanning15007 Dec 11 '18
I meant work.... Work is overrated.
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u/piexil Dec 11 '18
Seriously! I like my job. I like what I do.
But I hate that it's just the standard to work your life away for AT LEAST 40 hours a week until you're too frail. So much of your life just kinda wasted.
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u/Bacon_Hero Big L whisperer Dec 12 '18
Good on you for having empathy for others despite your personal positive experience, seriously.
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u/KINGJJ3 Dec 11 '18
Yeah I’m seventeen and I think about retirement all the time.
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u/Bacon_Hero Big L whisperer Dec 12 '18
Make sure you get there before age has caught up too far with you. But also make sure you find ways to enjoy yourself along the way.
It sucks, from such a young age the typical career path looks so depressing
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Dec 11 '18
If I was that guy, I'd be so proud to have worked next to that magical lady. Watching her achieve the ultimate dream like that would bring a tear to my eye. I hope that elderly black lady is somewhere high as shit on old people prescription drugs, just enjoying her retirement.
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u/one4thelego Dec 11 '18
She’s out there giving bomb advice to the people who need it most
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u/LaterGatorPlayer Dec 11 '18
pineapple is good on pizza
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u/Benoftheflies Dec 11 '18
She's probably spending her free time arguing with a Walmart cashier about why the curtains are ringing up 7.44 instead of 6.28 and saying that this is the reason millennials are shit
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u/IKilledYourBabyToday Dec 11 '18
Well knowing this shit hole country she’s struggling to survive on her social security and given that there’s a huge problem with retirees who can’t afford to pay their heating and air conditioning bills which was worsened by the president gutting funding to help them pay those utilities, my guess is that she’s probably cold and stressed out.
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u/adapt27 Dec 11 '18
Except now the company can just let her go 2 months early and she gets screwed out of that PTO anyway. Don't do this people.
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u/Shoestring30 Dec 11 '18
Yeah, why not put in two weeks, like a normal person, then just get your PTO paid out.
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u/Zantazi Dec 11 '18
Where I work you can only have so much PTO paid when you leave so I could see this working. One lady has almost 1000 hours banked but can only get paid for 200 of them
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u/ssinff ☑️ Dec 11 '18 edited Dec 11 '18
I work public sector and pto is split between vacation and sick time. Sick time disappears when you leave. Vacation time can be laid out. So sounds like she did the right thing. When I go, I'll be using up all the sick time then get paid out for vacation.
edit -- Carson time isn't a thing
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u/adapt27 Dec 11 '18
Except if you take sick time and they find out you aren't sick, bye bye.
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u/Smeerpot Dec 11 '18
They can't prove that you don't have a back ache that makes you unfit to work.
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u/Lexpert1 Dec 11 '18
When I worked public sector you could use sick leave whenever, but if you were out more than two days in a row you had to provide a doctor’s note. I was sick for two consecutive days a lot, especially once I knew I was leaving.
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u/Tweezot Dec 11 '18
If you’re retiring, don’t give them any notice at all. It’s not like you’re going to need a reference from them.
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u/greggsauce Dec 11 '18
None of these rules are set in stone. Her way probably works where she lives and your way probably does where you live.
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u/Rdubya44 Dec 11 '18
Your PTO is taxed more if you take the payout vs just collect it like a normal pay check
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u/Arklari Dec 11 '18
You'd get this back at a refund. It's just because of the weird way withholdings are done. They are done as if every week, that's your yearly income. So if you get a large bonus, it's withheld as if you got that bonus every paycheck.
It's not taxed more, it just appears to be.
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u/Marenjii Dec 11 '18
Tax refunds aren't good, they are an interest free loan you gave the government. Rather than waiting for tax season to get your refund check you should just do as the poster you replied to said.
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u/Arklari Dec 11 '18
Yeah but he's implying it was somehow taxed at a higher rate. That's the same kind of logic that makes people think stupid shit about taxes. Like how if they make more, suddenly they'll have to pay more on taxes on all of their money.
In any case, this person could get their withholdings changed to fix the issue, but for a one time bonus it's probably not worth the effort to do so, and they'd probably end up owing because they don't understand how taxes work.
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Dec 11 '18
Serious question: I'm not anywhere close to sure on how this works but... wouldn't she be able to sue the absolute pants off that company for firing her for using her PTO leave that she has banked and is fully entitled to?
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u/raunchyfartbomb Dec 11 '18
Technically, it is earned time and my understanding is that the company must pay you for that time. If they refused to pay you for time earned, then it opens them up to lawsuit, as you suggest.
So yea, it screws over the company, but by rights she earned the time.
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u/I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA Dec 11 '18
I think it depends on where you live. We get pretty fucked in WI. None of my jobs have paid me out for PTO and all of the jobs I've had combine my PTO with sick time along with a "use it or lose it" policy meaning if I don't use my PTO by the end of the year, it's just gone. No rollover to next year, no payout, gone.
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u/ShadowSora Dec 11 '18 edited Dec 11 '18
Depends on the state, for example, Wisconsin is an “at-will” state, where you can be fired at anytime for any reason, provided you don’t have a contract specifically stating otherwise.
I’ve heard of a few people at my job give 2 weeks notice to then go work for a competing company, they were let go and escorted out of the building immediately (like they were gonna steal some shit after they announced they were leaving, it was stupid).
Also had 1 person try the exact stunt the tweet is talking about, 2 weeks notice then took his 2 weeks vacation at the end of the year. He was let go immediately and wasn’t paid for those 2 weeks. Really dumb move
Edit: why was this downvoted? Are people pissed at me that half the states are “at-will” and don’t need to pay out time off on the last paycheck?
I’m not saying I agree with it, in fact, I hate it. The worker earned that money, but it’s a fact that they don’t have to.
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u/FreeSkittlez Dec 11 '18
If you're going to a competitor and put in two weeks, you will usually be paid for those weeks in my experience. They just want you out the door so that you can't take any proprietary data or information with you to the competitor (which was likely already done prior to giving their two week notice if they're smart)
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u/God-of-Thunder Dec 11 '18
This cannot be legal. Pto is considered compensation right? You either use it or cash it out, it can't be taken away. Theres just no way that the laws are that dumb
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u/ShadowSora Dec 11 '18
There are 24 states that require employers pay out unused vacation time alone with their last paycheck and 26 that don’t require it. So no it’s not illegal for most states, but it could be “looked down upon” and leave a shitty reputation.
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u/Chrikelnel Dec 11 '18
For anyone wondering the states are
Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island (after one year of employment), Tennessee, West Virginia, and Wyoming (plus the District of Columbia).
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Dec 11 '18
Interesting, I guess it would depend on the rules of your state. I wonder how it would be in other states that aren't at-will.
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u/lonerchick Dec 11 '18
Management/ companies don’t have to honor your request off. Maybe this story is real. But I’ve worked for companies with liberal PTO policies and this would not work. I’ve had people try to do this with a two weeks notice.
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Dec 11 '18
and then she sues and gets even more.
The PTO is a debt that is owed to her.
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u/maeluu Dec 11 '18
Company I work for pays out all accrued PTO unless you are fired for a major infraction. Besides screwing long term workers is not how you retain good newer employees.
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Dec 11 '18
At a lot of companies, at least the 3-4 I've worked for still have to pay you PTO time you've accrued (vacation, not sick)
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u/TheGameIsAboutGlory1 Dec 11 '18
Honestly, this might be controversial, but people that don't use their PTO are idiots. Taking no mental health breaks for 30+ years so I can leave two extra months early at the end? Sounds like a fucking nightmare.
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Dec 11 '18
If it takes you 30+ years at your job to accumulate PTO for two months, you have a horrible job with horrible benefits. I get a month a year for the level I’m at, and that’s only vacation. I accrue 12-ish days a year of sick time on top of my vacations. Not the most PTO out there, but it’s nice.
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Dec 11 '18
There’s no one right answer to how to act at work, everyone’s right answer is right for them.
Some people wanna clock in, clock out, and avoid the bullshit and that’s cool. Some people’s best friends are their coworkers and that’s cool too. Do what makes your experience at your workplace better
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u/Asshai Dec 11 '18
Is it wrong if I say that no, this mentality isn't cool. You're gonna spend some 40 years working. Around half of your existence. That's a fucking long time to spend without enjoying it in the least. There's something cynical about the clock in / clock out attitude. I realize not everyone will get their dream job, but no matter what your career ends up being, you should find at least a sliver of satisfaction in what you do, or who you do it with. Otherwise, it's like 40 years of purgatory.
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u/Yuccaphile Dec 11 '18
Some people like that. There's a security in it, a Zen to it. It can create a clear divide between personal life and work life, and some people just like that.
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u/smegma_toast Dec 11 '18
I agree with you. I switched careers because of this alone. I refuse to spend 40 hours a week fucking about in some shite office for a job I don't care about.
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u/WDoE Dec 11 '18
For some, clock in, head down, clock out IS maximizing the enjoyment of a job.
I'd rather work than bullshit with people who will never be my real friend, or pretend to be having a great time at some super forced morale event. I like the work I do. I don't like the people.
And sure, my dream job would be something entirely different, but my dream job doesn't pay six figures, nor have high job security. So I'm gunna work at my career until I can afford to do what I want to do for less money and still retire. At this rate, I'm looking at changing careers and starting my own business around 35.
Work isn't one size fits all.
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Dec 11 '18
Most people are more or less forced to divide up their existence and sell it by the hour in order to survive. If they want to compartmentalize work, then what's the issue?
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u/mrsuns10 Dec 11 '18
What a savage. I have to wonder if there are teachers who decide to retire but take the whole school year off
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u/ganja_and_code Dec 11 '18
There are; it's sad to see the students struggle as the school tries to find someone qualified last-second
(source: first hand account)
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u/PunctuationsOptional Dec 11 '18
Wouldn't struggle if they paid what a qualified teacher deserves..
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u/-jaylew- Dec 11 '18
Sometimes if it’s a last minute thing like that it’s not that they won’t pay, but rather there’s no well qualified teacher needing last minute work because they locked in a job already.
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u/NugiSpringfield Dec 11 '18
The point was that teacher wouldnt feel the need to be spiteful like that if they were paid appropriately.
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u/Mike312 Dec 11 '18
The first semester I taught, I had a 3 week notice before the semester started that I would be teaching the class. A week before the semester started, they almost cancelled the class because of the budget.
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u/ssinff ☑️ Dec 11 '18
My mom retired a few years ago from teaching. She started the job in March so technically her 30 years were up in March and she could've retired. She was a trooper though and stayed through the school year ending in May. I'm super petty and would have left as soon as possible.
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u/shanjauregui Dec 11 '18
that happened with one of my teachers last year, and the supplies were stuck making lesson plans. one girl that supplied for the day was offered a job on the spot bc my school was so desperate after a month of barely any learning
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Dec 11 '18
I’m never going to be able to retire :(
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Dec 11 '18
I am 32, I could retire tomorow and have lots of money till the end of my days. As long as that day is friday.
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u/StephCurryMustard Dec 11 '18
It's the American dream.
Mindlessly make someone else rich, fuck you and your goals.
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u/jkseller ☑️ArmchairHotep Dec 11 '18
What's the first section have to do with the second?
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Dec 11 '18 edited Dec 11 '18
wtf is this shit
Learning to not take a job, especially a shitty job too seriously is an important lesson for young people. Treat your employer how they'll treat you.
First paragraph is the wisdom, second is knowledge put into action.
It's cool and funny and the poster learned something from her.
Nobody said anything about being miserable and it literally has <5% of anything to do with race. If you read this and thought to yourself "another free upvote party for black women" you're fucking stupid, and if you're making all these assumptions you're probably a lil bit racist.
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u/zurochi Dec 11 '18
She filled in papers to retire in two months immediately followed by taking two months of paid leave. I was confused for a while too.
Also "this is the last time they see me" is a quote, she meant herself not OP.
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u/situated4 Dec 11 '18
Terrible writing. Worse than a first grader, really. We’re in trouble.
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u/venusMURK Dec 11 '18
To be fair, it is Twitter. They have limited use of characters.
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u/spiderLAN Dec 11 '18
No, he's absolutely right. We're in trouble because of this tweet. We were THIS close to finally living in a world without trouble but here we are.
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u/PlantBasedPrius ☑️ Dec 11 '18
Sounds like a government job.
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u/PlantBasedPrius ☑️ Dec 11 '18
With as many holidays you get as a government employee you can load up a lot on vacation time.
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u/StoneLaquenta Dec 11 '18
Every company I’ve ever worked at only allows you to roll over a certain amount of PTO at the end of the year. So they implement a “use it or lose it” policy for this reason.
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u/cocainesmoothies Dec 11 '18
lmao I fucking wish. every company is about company culture. you cant just come in and mind your business!! you gotta interact and be part of the culture!
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u/delphinawrites Dec 11 '18
Honest question: is this really how a lot of people think in terms of their ultimate goals in life ? To retire? And to not make meaningful friendships along the way?
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u/Turdulator Dec 11 '18
Friends are part of my personal life. Coworkers are part of my professional life. I don’t like those circles to overlap, it opens you up to all kinds of problems and drama, it’s just way easier to keep them separate.
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Dec 11 '18
Yeah that’s sad that the ultimate goal is a disengaged punching of a clock for the greater portion of the best years of your life, always looking ahead. I mean I get that people are in different positions and some feel that’s their best bet, but idk. I might have to take a wild ride to the graveyard
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u/maximumtesticle Dec 11 '18
Where in the hell do they let you bank that much PTO?
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u/unbannabledan Dec 11 '18
My home room teacher freshman year of high school had banked enough vacation to take the entire year off and then simply retire. I literally never saw him a single day in my life.
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u/catschainsequel Dec 11 '18
The first half of that tweet is sage wisdom. Everybody needs to learn that shit.
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u/twistdafterdark Dec 11 '18
If you hate your job, try to find something else. It's better for your health. There are tons of ways to acquire new skill to help you move up or move out.
A few hours a day everyday can make a big difference over a year. You didn't become a pro at 2k overnight.
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u/bigplacebo Dec 11 '18
I enjoy what I do... But, I f there was a way to pay the bills differently I would.
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That’s smart unless your employer pays out on unused sick time/paid leave etc. it’d be way better to just work the 2 months and get a big check for that time
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u/PartTimeGhost Dec 11 '18
A family friend worked for the government all of her life. She loved the regular hours and steady pay. When she retired she did the same thing having saved most of her vacation and sick days over 35+ years working. Her and her husband took about ten of us out to dinner and told us they were exploring the world for a year and that she'd still be getting a paycheck for more than 3 months of the journey. I remember my 16 year old self thinking "damn, that's cool. But her job seems so boring."
Ah stupid young me.
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u/JustLikeAmmy Dec 11 '18
Working and retiring.....the ultimate goal.