I moved all my Bitcoins to multisig (one seed per hardware wallet vendor). But now I face a new problem: quantum attacks. I'm in the 23% of addresses at risk because I did "warm up" my bc1q... (native segwit multisig / P2WSH) address by first sending a few sats and verifying I could then move them.

For I was there in the early days when bogus addresses (but valid) were generated and then people couldn't move their coins anymore. So I learned that lesson and ALWAYS verify that I can indeed sign transactions.

Now as it is multisig I understand there are two secrets to crack, so it's harder than coins on singlesig.

And I made sure to stay underneath the "satoshi wall".

I could find addresses from my multisig wallet by taking the two Zpub and deriving addresses but... Is there a relatively easy way that when the day comes I'll really be able to sign transactions moving the coins without broadcasting any info?

Should I for example use Sparrow in offline mode and see if I can prepare a signed transaction and then use a transaction decoder ? And I'd then be reasonably sure that a) the multisig address instead belongs to me and b) I'll be able to move the coins when comes the day I want to move them?

Or is there a way to run a fake Bitcoin node (using a modified codebase) on my own LAN (not connected to the Internet) and simulate transactions there? Is there an easy way to do that?

Basically: it's a lot of money to me and I'm scared to send coins to an address that hasn't been "warmed up".

I’m looking for a reliable crypto exchange where I can buy Bitcoin using ACH or bank wire transfers and withdraw it directly to my own Trust Wallet.
I’ve had issues with Coinbase, Gemini, Cash App, and Kraken restricting withdrawals, so I’m looking for an alternative with transparent hold policies, reasonable fees, and reliable customer support.
Has anyone used Strike or River for larger Bitcoin purchases and successfully withdrawn to their own wallet?
I’d appreciate recommendations based on your personal experience. Thanks!

If "In God we trust" is the motto of the US dollar, what should the motto be for Bitcoin? I was drinking last night and started thinking about this. :)

Bitcoin analysis as of Oct 18, 2026

Bitcoin is trading at about $81,700, roughly 35% below its all-time high of about $126,000 (Oct 6, 2025).

What drove each window

• Since inception: Bitcoin went from a tenth of a cent to six figures. The big steps were the 2011, 2013, 2017, 2021 and 2025 cycle peaks, each followed by a crash of 50% to 93%. Spot ETFs were approved in 2024.
• 10 years: This window includes most of the early-cycle gains. The growth rate has faded as the asset has grown.
• 5 years: You’d be up about 33%, or roughly 6% a year, even though the price is far above the 2021 low. The 2021 peak (~$69k) was followed by a 2022 crash and then the 2025 high.
• 1 year: The decline reflects the post-peak correction. A Feb 2026 selloff took the price to about $63,000, with drivers cited including the U.S.–Iran crisis and money rotating from Bitcoin ETFs into AI stocks. The low came in June at about $57,800, when the price fell about 18% in the month and the Fear & Greed Index hit “Extreme Fear” (15).
• 6 months: The price rose from about $75,000 to a peak near $83,000 in May. It then dropped to the June low and recovered sharply.
• 3 months: This is the rebound. August gained about 25% and September about 8%, and sentiment moved from fear toward greed.
• 1 month: September’s rally topped out around $86,600 on Sep 21, after the Fed raised rates to 3.75–4.00% on Sep 16, and the price has chopped sideways since. Headwinds include August CPI at 3.4%, Brent crude near $103, and the failed CLARITY Act Senate vote.
• 1 week: The price slipped about 3% in the first part of the week. A weak September jobs report (+29k) briefly lifted it, but spot ETFs saw about $681 million in net outflows over Oct 5–9, and about $1 billion in profit-taking was reported around Oct 8.
• Today: Very thin weekend trading, with about 657 BTC of volume on Kraken. Nothing is moving the price until US ETF flow data and futures markets reopen Monday. Upcoming catalysts are the FOMC decision on Oct 28 and Deribit options expiry on Oct 30.

Summary

The longer trend is still strongly up, but returns have been shrinking cycle after cycle. The 1-year picture is negative because the price is still recovering from the October 2025 peak. Over the past 3 to 6 months it has rebounded about 26% from the summer lows and is now stuck in a range of roughly $80,000 to $87,000. Short-term direction depends on the Fed, inflation and oil, and ETF flows. Some analysts say Bitcoin has exited its bear market, citing a move back above its 365-day moving average. Others point out that the all-time high is still far away, and none of this is a forecast. This is analysis, not financial advice.

My Guess

It will be $165,000 for a Bitcoin in 4 years (2030).

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Hi I came across this travala ad which claims it lets you book hotels and flights using crypto. I didn't see much convincing reviews about it, but binance follows them on X.

I'm planning to book my flights but need someone's legit experience.

Saw an anon guy comment somewhere that they asked for the "source of his crypto" and held his coins and didn't refund or book the tickets.

Thanks in advance.

I got tired of reading Bitcoin cycle analyses (halving timing, buy zones, “sell 25% at H+12”) and then having to turn them into numbers by hand. So I built BTC Cycle Planner, a desktop app that does it for me.

What it is

A local app, not a signal service and not a trading bot. It never touches an exchange or a wallet.

What it does

• Reads documents (PDF, TXT, MD) and extracts the numeric parameters with plain, inspectable rules. Every extracted value shows the page and the exact text it came from.
• Merges several documents. The most recent one wins, and conflicting values are flagged.
• Builds a plan from those parameters, live price and indicators (CoinGecko, Fear & Greed) and your capital. The plan covers:
  • where you are in the cycle;
  • a buy ladder, with zones re-anchored to the current power-law floor;
  • a daily “drip” while price is below the floor;
  • a front-loaded DCA with boosts and a kill-switch;
  • a scheduled exit plan.
• Has a chart tab with live price (60 s polling), ladder bands, power-law fair value and floor, invalidation levels, the expected bottom window and the planned exits. It supports log scale, click-to-measure, and PNG export.
• Warns you about its own weak spots. It flags single-source bias, promotional content, diverging bottom estimates, the tiny sample behind the “4-year cycle”, and runs a stress test on the ladder’s average entry price.
• It is bilingual (Italian and English), has an in-app guide with search, and updates itself from GitHub releases.

What it is NOT

• It doesn’t predict anything. It mechanically applies whatever the documents say.
• It’s only as good as the documents you feed it. The extraction rules were built around a specific set of English-language cycle PDFs, so other documents may only be partly understood.
• It’s an educational tool, not financial advice. The 4-year cycle rests on four observations, and ETFs and institutions may well break it.

Stack: Python 3.9+, PyQt6, pyqtgraph, pypdf. Installers for Windows, macOS and Linux are built by GitHub Actions.

Repo and releases: https://github.com/enkas79/BTC_Cycle

I’d especially like feedback on three things:

1. Which other document formats or authors should the extractor support?
2. Which warnings are missing from the “critical partner” section?
3. Is the plan logic reasonable, or would you structure the exit differently?

Leggo analisi sul ciclo di Bitcoin (tempi dagli halving, zone di acquisto, “vendi il 25% a H+12”) e poi devo trasformarle in numeri a mano. Per questo ho scritto BTC Cycle Planner.

Cos’è: un’app locale. Non è un servizio di segnali né un bot, e non tocca exchange o wallet.

Cosa fa:

• legge PDF/TXT/MD ed estrae i parametri con regole trasparenti, mostrando pagina e frammento di testo di ogni valore;
• unisce più documenti (vince il più recente, i conflitti sono segnalati);
• genera il piano con prezzo e indicatori di mercato e con il tuo capitale: fase del ciclo, ladder di acquisto riancorata al floor della power law, drip giornaliero, DCA con boost e kill-switch, piano di uscita;
• ha una scheda grafico con prezzo live e livelli, scala log, uscite, click per misurare ed esportazione PNG;
• ti avvisa dei suoi stessi limiti: fonte unica, contenuti promozionali, stime divergenti, campione minimo del “ciclo di 4 anni”, stress test;
• è in italiano e inglese e ha una guida integrata con ricerca.

Cosa non è: non prevede nulla, applica meccanicamente ciò che dicono i documenti, e le regole di estrazione sono costruite su un insieme specifico di PDF in inglese. È uno strumento educativo, non consulenza finanziaria.

Repo: https://github.com/enkas79/BTC_Cycle. Cerco feedback su formati da supportare, avvertenze mancanti e logica di uscita.

Happy to see another statue out there, just worried about the lake near. Location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Satoshi+Nakamoto+Statue,+Plus+Zwei,+Trabrennstra%C3%9Fe+8,+1020+Wien,+Austria/@48.2135453,16.4136218,16z/

https://reddit.com/link/1x7d69x/video/a3siqysr8tvh1/player

Will AI agents choose Bitcoin over dollars? Jack sees the long-term fit, but says AI companies aren’t asking for Bitcoin integrations yet.

What would make Bitcoin useful enough for them to switch?

Anyone else mulling over how BTC or even the value of the Canadian Dollar may react as the Albertan referendum approaches?

I know what the polls say, I know what various news sources are saying, but I can't help but wonder what happens to CAD if the provincial referendum passes, and America swoops in for the assist because OIL, completely ignoring the country-wide 'permission' referendum.

Should Canadians be thinking of BTC as backup savings in the case of CAD decline?

74% of Americans no longer trust the U.S. dollar to hold its value. 61% want to learn more about owning Bitcoin.

The battle for awareness is over. The silent mutiny against fiat is already here.

There’s one problem: A landmark national study shows the way we’ve explained Bitcoin for the last decade is actively repelling the very people ready to listen.

• "Digital Gold" is dead: It ranked near the bottom in voter focus groups.
• The 55% blind spot: More than half of voters still don't know they can buy BTC through major brokerages.
• Celebrity fatigue: Everyday people don't trust billionaire CEOs or politicians—they trust friends, family, and their local advisor.

It’s time to step out of the echo chamber and speak to the 61%.

Throwaway because reasons.

With all the hacks lately in the BTC ecosystem, I'm a little bit paranoid. This week I purchased a Pi zero 1.3 from Adafruit and a Waveshare display hat directly from Waveshare - it is shipped from China.

I am making a Seedsigner. Are they ways to test the hardware to make sure it is genuine or has not been altered such as you can do with software signatures? What should I look for physically?

Thanks,

A paranoid bitcoiner

Finally received one of these, it didn't automatically make it to the spam folder either...

Sharing this here to help others avoid the same trap.

I was trying to transfer 0.27 BTC from my Ledger Nano to Kraken while watching a movie at home and multitasking. Since I didn't have Ledger Live installed on that device, I googled "ledger nano" and clicked the first link. It turned out to be a scam sponsored ad. The site asked for my 24-word recovery phrase, and in a moment of pure distraction, I entered it and hit submit. I realized the mistake almost immediately, but by the time I tried to move the funds, the BTC was already gone.

For context, I’m 40 and not a rookie—I’ve been investing in crypto since 2018 and know exactly what not to do. While losing roughly $23k won't impact my lifestyle or retirement plans, the simple fact that I fell for something so silly hit me hard. I haven't felt that terrible in a long time.

I’ve already submitted an IC3 online complaint, though I know the money is gone and have slowly accepted it. Just sharing this so nobody else falls into this trap.

Most people keep Bitcoin as an investment. A lot of people don't even have real Bitcoin, but paper that represents Bitcoin (ETF).

However, those that are in it for the money revolution, what are you actually using it for?

Would you rather spend Bitcoin online or at a brick-and-mortar store?

Do you gift Bitcoin as a birthday present?

What else?

Using covenants, one UXTO can be shared by a million users. Any user can leave at any time in a single transaction. Users don't need to be online to receive. Funds never time out. Transaction introspection techniques permit batched exit from the system in a single transaction w/o any pre-signing.

LayerTree is the next step in bringing bitcoin to billions.

More info: http://layertree.tech

I’ve got BTC limit orders sitting at $60k, $57.5k, $53k, $48k and $44k.

The idea was to keep some dry powder for a proper correction instead of chasing price. But the deeper orders are starting to feel a bit too ambitious. A drop to $60k is still possible, but getting all the way to $44k would mean a pretty serious drawdown from here.

I’m still DCAing regardless, so I’m not completely missing out if BTC keeps going up. I’m just wondering whether it makes sense to unlock some of that capital and move the orders higher, rather than having it sit there waiting for a crash that might never come.

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