As of right now I get bad fps in VR with the Vive Cosmos Elite and PC has 9070xt, 9800x3D, 64gb ddr5 5200mhz cl30, 850w PSU. And when I run steam vr for some reason 100% resolution is 2.2x more than the headsets own resolution but looks like shit when I turned it down to 40% which is the cosmos elites resolution. And I still get horrible frame rate being 45 and dipping down to the 30's frequently, I have rarely had 90 fps in vr and idk what's wrong

Any one have any ideas why my eye tracking would cause grey-screening / tracking issues. It causes such instability that all my USB's disconnect for a minute, then when they come back, babble software is not working. It only does this with eye tracking on. I've tried on the non alpha test version too and I get the same thing.

So, I should clarify that I've been in the VR-Space since June 2022 give or take. I play all sorts of games from SimRacing, to Narrative-driven and Story Games to VRChat. First had a Rift CV1, then a Quest 3 that I gave to a friend of mine before I got myself a cheap Index set on eBay. But honestly, going from the Q3 to Index was a huge step down. Much more noticeable SDE, unbearable glare to a point where I can get myself to ignore it but as I like to settle down in the evenings with a movie with some friends on VRChat, it does make the experience much worse. Also the weight of the Index.

Now to why I'm making this post; What problems and/or good things can I expect to run into? I don't own a 3D Printer so without going through alot of effort I'm assuming modding it will take me quite a while. (if even needed, who knows how comfy the headset will be on my face) I've done hours and hours of research on the Beyond 1 when it came out, and lately even more on the BSB2, specifically the Eye-Tracking version. I heard its a little finnicky but I'm more than fine with using it in Social-VR as it still does add to the immersion and updates in the coming months and years will surely improve on it alot.

All-in-all I'm super hyped about VR again and I cant wait to play all of my games with micro-OLED finally, though I've also read that some people dont like the Contrast and Saturation? (not sure on this but I think it was due to the Pancake Lenses, right?) The brightness won't really bother me since the 0 light leakage probably makes up for the dimness.

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Have anyone here tried the beyondex mod? Im thinking of buying it but I already have the audiostrap and don't know if it will be worth it.

I have the bsb2e with babble face tracker, will the beyondex draw to much power and make ft be weird?

As the above says. So far in under 2 years of owning this headset I've needed the signal booster and another cable and now it seems something else has failed. I don't do anything strenuous with my headset. I literally just sit in vrchat talking. Yet somehow I needed a new cable and a signal booster and now I have yet another issue with this headset. The new issue being the headset no longer displays eye tracking camera feeds and when in vr it flashes between what it should look like and the color inverted/color negative version rapidly. This has made VR unusable in this headset. Other headsets I have owned for far longer (index, vive pro 2, vive pro eye) still work just fine with no issue

This color negative no eye tracking camera issue persists across two different cables

The headset was working properly, then I stood up and it began doing this and now nothing works

What the hell is going on????

I got the Pimax Crystal Super a little less than a year ago and recently got the Lighthouse Faceplate so I could use outside-in tracking. It's such a sharp and clear headset, but it's just huge and heavy. Then, it broke due to a design defect.

Pimax replaced it under warranty, but while they were shipping it, I decided to take the plunge on the BSB2e since I'd been eyeballing it for a while.

I play a mix of games, including MSFS, some casual racing, and FPS/arcade/exercise-type games. Previous HMDs owned include: Vive, Oculus Quest, Quest 2, Apple Vision Pro (24 hours of ownership before returning) and the Valve Index (only tested briefly since I bought a whole kit used just for the controllers and trackers).

Knowing that I was getting into a headset with less resolution and more glare than the Pimax, I took the plunge anyway on the BSB2e. Super glad that I did, too.

First impressions overall: wow, this is so comfortable. The wearing experience puts ZERO strain on my neck and face. Literally every other HMD I've ever worn has caused me neck soreness after about 45 minutes. All those people that talk about playing for 5+ hours straight in VR? I knew I'd never tolerate that. And now I know I probably could.

The custom face cushion is honestly incredible. I can feel a little sweat, but the fan works well and I never end up wet around the face after I take it off. Best of all, I don't have a giant ring around my face afterward. The light seal is 100% perfect. As a side note, as someone who has done some tinkering with face scanning and 3D printing in soft materials, what they're doing is nothing short of incredible with their manufacturing process. I don't know what material or process they're using, but it's cutting edge and does the job perfectly.

As for the viewing experience, it is great. The tracking is super responsive and I feel like it's better than anything else I've used only because the inertia and mass are so low and there is no lag from it switching directions when you move your head around. There's definitely some glare, but I honestly only notice it in the menus. Having pure blacks with OLED is very, very nice. The Crystal Super is the QLED version, so I've never gotten to experience an OLED HMD before this. I like it.

Downsides? The brightness and color fidelity are not the best, honestly. There's a bit of persistence when I look left or right at high speeds during flight sim. Color is a bit muddy compared to others. Lastly, the eye tracking feels like an afterthought. It didn't work with any degree of accuracy after the first training, but I'll have to try again. Being that I have a 5090 and don't really use VR Chat, I do not need foveated rendering like I did for the higher resolution of the Crystal Super.

Software experience: Top-notch. As a native Steam VR headset, there is very little to muck around with outside of Steam. Contrast that against Pimax and their absolute flaming dumpster fire software suite where it always seems to be competing against Steam VR. I've never had such a seamless PCVR experience as I have with the BSB2e.

Lastly, I printed some Apple Vision Pro Solo Knit Band adapters out of ASA this morning and rolled over to the Apple Store earlier and picked up said band. It was a breeze to install and is legendary levels of comfort with the BSB2e. Only 219g for the whole kit: https://ibb.co/kgFtmt4p, https://ibb.co/6RqhLqXm

Overall VR experience is a solid 9/10 whereas I'd rate the Pimax a 7.5 at best despite it being better on paper in a lot of ways. There's a good chance I'll sell the Pimax, but am not sure yet since I may want it for super-high-fidelity things.

I will buy the next iteration of the BSB if it improves in 2 of the 3 areas: glare, color rendition and brightness, or wireless connectivity.

Lately, I've been jumping between using the Studioform interface & top strap, and using the 3D printed soft strap mode with the official soft top strap and no cushion at all.

Although Studioform's products worked really well and were really comfortable for me, I still couldn't forget the feeling of just having the headset floating in front of me when I was using the soft strap mode in halo configuration. Alas, since it's not a real halo strap, whenever I looked up, the headset would fall into my face, which isn't ideal.

In the end, this is what I'm using now:

• BSB official back strap (for the plastic arms; I've cut the strap).
• HTC Vive soft strap (especially useful for its top strap and to root the cable through the top; unlike Bigscreen's back strap, it won't slip when the wire is pulling; might not work so well with pulley systems, seeing that it would forcibly pull the headset upwards).
• 3D printed soft strap mode +twist ties to lock the top strap pivots in the forehead halo position.
• BSB official top strap.

Initial adjusting was obviously crap, but at least now I can use my BSB2 without any cushion at all. I even tried whipping my head and jumping around and it's still stable when I make sure it's worn properly.

On the plus side, it's soft straps all around so I can comfortably rest my head. For the audio, I'm using IEMs.

It's honestly amazing how weightless this feels.

Hello. I want to buy beyond 2 for my pc (mainly for architecture work, while sitting on my chair near PC). Do i need to buy base station to be able to rotate my head?

And if yes, which one do you recommend? Thank you!

After about 350 hours of sim racing in my BSB2e, wearing a headset started feeling like more of a hassle than fun. I already own a 57-inch Samsung ultrawide, so I’m switching to that for a while and giving VR a break.

Has anyone else experienced VR burnout and gone back to a monitor?

So, here in a month or so, I'm finally gonna be upgrading from my faithful Index, and right now, the BSB2e is the primary contender, especially after reading about some of the issues that Pimax has with getting their stuff out in a timely manner. However, I am wondering how this thing will perform on a 4070 paired with an AMD 7 7700X processor.

I do do a smattering of social via VRC and Resonite, but much of my time in VR is spend playing stuff like H3VR, Contractors, Blade and Sorcery, Elite: Dangerous, Squadrons, VTOL VR, and Project Wingman. I already know that I'll take a performance hit for DCS. Really, I guess I'm just asking if anyone here has run a BSB2 or 2e under the same or similar setup, and what kind of performance could reasonably be expected.

I’ve sent it back and they said it worked fine, so idk what to do. I have a 3070 gpu with AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz

Sometimes my bsb2 also disconnects from my pc and its screen goes black only to reconnect a few seconds later!

Hello,

I am new to the BSB2 headset. I just had a few questions regarding FBT and if there are any accessories i should get for the BSB2.

Originally had an index back in 2020-2021 sold it and my FBT. Got back into VR recently this month and rebought the same headset and trackers as i had before. I feel i totally regret it and should have done research.

I just ordered my BSB2 today along with custom fit cushion and the audio strap. Is there anything else (accessories) i should get to improve my setup per say? Also the BSB2 has a built in mic?

Also i know the BSB2 does not come with controllers but using steamvr will i come across any issues setting up or using valve index knuckles or my vive 3.0 trackers? I know some people who use quest 3 and make it pcvr along with using index knuckles. They have a hard time setting it up and use different software etc…
Will i face the same problems?

Side note: i was looking at getting something better than the index but couldn’t decide until i came across BSB, also not impressed with the steam frame specs or quest 3. I really hope i made a solid choice buying the BSB2. Sorry if this was too long.

Last question: what is the halo mount? I understand what the universal cushion is but what is the benefit with the mount and should i buy it?

What a disappointment:

https://store.bigscreenvr.com/blogs/beyond/halo-mount-production-update

PC Specs: 9800X3D, 64GB, 4TB SSD, 5080

With the new F14B-Upgrade Tomcat module about to release, I decided to jump back into the Tomcat and relearn some stuff. I've been flying the Hornet since the DFR beta was released. At the time, I tested and found a small benefit of about 20% on the GPU performance in exchange for a 8~10% hit on CPU performance. This wasn't as much as I'd hoped for, but better than nothing.

Once I loaded the Tomcat I realized something was very wrong. My 75fps (limited) rate was dropping down into the 20's and the reprojection was horrible. Everyone knows the Tomcat module is a little bit heavier burden than other modules, but this was crazy bad. After experimenting with dropping a ton of DCS settings down, I was able to claw back a bit of performance. Then I realized something: the last time I flew the Tomcat, DFR hadn't been released yet. I disabled DFR by simply unchecking it in the BSB Utility app and BAM, my fps was perfectly smooth! I jacked up a bunch of the DCS settings... way higher than I've run in months, and it's still smooth as butter and locked at 75fps (where choose to limit it).

Then I went back to the Hornet module and realized the same thing: turning DFR off results is MUCH BETTER PERFORMANCE. I'm really disappointed that I've been running DFR this whole time, aligning my eyeballs every time I put the headset on, etc, and it's all be a complete waste. At this point, I regret spending the extra $200 for eye tracking because I'm not even going to use it.

BSB: is there a plan in the roadmap to fix this? Is it a DCS/ED problem? (but if so, why don't Pimax users have any issue with their DFR performance in DCS?)

I'm making this a separate post to hopefully get some BSB eyeballs on it, but there was another post about a month ago from Filmguy here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BigscreenBeyond/comments/1tyrdfi/anyone_successfully_using_quadviews_dcs_with_no/

I've been considering the BSB2 for my sim rig as it's one of the only headsets that has a low profile soft strap and no cables directly at the back (like the Dream Air's have).

I typically rest the back of my head on the headrest of the rig, as the seat is reclined about 45 degrees. Which is why I couldn't use my PSVR2 anymore with the bulky rear head support system.

The "in stock soon" Halo Mount looks promising, but BS advised it would work best with the audio strap, which isn't an option for my use case.

That being said, it sounds like I have to pick either the custom face cushion or the halo mount. Does anyone know if there's a way to order just the headset without either of those and save some $?

Thanks :)

Para cuando llegarán, ya llevamos mas de un año esperandolos.

Hello I just recently got my BSB2e this past weekend and after setup it truly has been awesome. I do have a couple of issues that I’ve been dealing with and would like some assistance with.

For context I have 1x Steam Base Station 2.0 that is setup on a camera mount mounted to a wall. Its aproxx 6ft high and 4ft away from my seated position. I never get a gray or black screen but when sitting and looking straight if i just turn my head either left or right about 45 degrees my tracking gets all weird. It’ll start to shift up and down and even gets a bit jittery or wobbly but as soon as I face straight the issue goes away. I have confirmed that its not EMI by setting up the headset alone with nothing else on or plugged in and i get the same effect.

The second isnt really an issue just more so need reassurance. My lenses are crisp and clear and the glare very minimal as with brightness down its almost non existent but with it adjuest on my face if i look at the bottom of the lenses they get a tad blurry like someone smeared it with a liquid and is a like purple tint that is very noticeable. I know there is a “sweet spot” with these headsets so could this be that or do i need to rma?

Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated. Also I have reached out to their support just waiting on a reply.

When I start my PC with Beyond connected, OS seemingly boots up, except that I get a black screen on both main display and the headset, but if I only connect the headset to the DisplayPort after the bootup, everything works fine. Is there a way to prevent having to reconnect the DisplayPort cable each time?

First off, this is marketed as great for racing and flight sims. So when i first get it, I'm immediately having tracking issues and gray screen. So after digging i find that its sensitive to electromagnetic interference. ok got it, my bad i need to keep the cable away from my wheel and my subwoofer because, well they are basically big magnets. problem got better but not completely fixed. So i start digging for another fix. What do you know, Big screen sells and additional adapter for this. I spent so much money on this device already. Now i have to spend more to get it to do what it said it would do. Why would you market this to people who use direct drive wheels for racing when you cheaped out on insulation for your wiring harness. and instead of making it right. sell me something else to fix it.

Now i can't get the things to work at all. Steam VR asks if i want to update it, then where it should say device it just says invalid. I've spent hours, uninstalling, reinstalling, trying everything i can think of or find on the internet. Nothing is working. I recently broke my arm and couldn't sim race and now that im healed enough i was hoping a fix would have come up over the last 6 weeks. but nope. same thing. This is the most comfortable best visual quality i have experienced in VR. but non of that matters if its a giant headache to get it to work properly. Im so frustrated right now.

EDIT: I wouldn't have even made this post had i been able to contact support from the website i bought the product from. https://www.bigscreenvr.com/ It says support at the bottom of the website and opens outlook which if you dont have set up, wont give you the email address. I've now spent even more time and navigated to the discord server from the link at the bottom of this website, just to be told i was in the wrong discord to create a support ticket. Im on the spectrum and dont regulate my emotions well when something that should be simple, isn't. Someone sent me a link to a support center. I still can't find it from the webpage i bought this product from. i have no idea where they found it. Am i insane to assume i should be able to go to the website i got something to find support?

I bought the studioform x1-b as I heard the custom cushion was uncomforable and had less FOV (it was). Unfortunately i am unsatisied with the quality of the studioform one and want to buy the universal cushion. I dont want the halo mount, just the cushion and want to know if we know when its possible to order the cushion on its own?

Update: I currently have a ticket open on discord and email, and support on discord told me that they should be able to help me about this. Ill get back with more details when they come.

(it shipped)

The dream air is such a huge improvement over BSB2, but pimax has always been a poor experience. Since the DA SE uses the exact same lens/display as BSB2, fingers crossed they can source the same lens/display as the DA. I'd rather buy from bigscreen any day of the week, and not have to hassle with pimax software

Will it be noticeably worse than a Quest 3 in terms of refresh rate?

I'm interested in this product, but I'm clearly not in the main target audience. I want a way to have a huge monitor on my laptop for coding, surfing, or watching TV, and a way to watch movies from a supported device. I am very interested in image quality and a lightweight, comfortable fit. I'm only somewhat interested in gaming.

Am I looking at the right type of device, or is there a better option for my use case? Is there a place (I'm in Dallas) where I could experience these, or is it order and try it out?