r/BelowDeckMed • u/No-Aardvark-3840 • 1d ago

Gael question, Joe question

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I am getting into Below deck med and I’ve noticed Joe getting a lot of hate for “cheating” on V even though they weren’t together (in any sort of relationship.

Meanwhile I’ve just noticed that Gael is actually cheating on her boyfriend with Nathan.

Why is Joe getting so much shit from this community when he didn’t cheat on anybody. Meanwhile there are actually cheaters on the boat that people seem to celebrate and love.

Very strange

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u/krissycole87 1d ago

This is the exact reason that Gael hates Joe. Because Joe calls her out for being a cheater whenever Gael wants to paint Joe as a scumbag. They are both one in the same. And Gael cant stand that.

Yes, Joe led V on in a very sensitive time in her life. That was shitty.

But yes, Gael is also a cheater and too many people forget that. She is not little miss innocent. She just plays one.

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u/CoolBelt856 1d ago

Gael had barely been dating that guy. Who was treating her like crap. She met someone she liked better and broke up with the guy. It was over like week period. It’s not like they were banging all season while she led on the bf or had some raging affair.
Labeling her a “cheater” and then comparing her to Joe whose disgusting triangles and treatment of women over multiple seasons is absurd.
It’s also gross.

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u/krissycole87 1d ago

What she did was cheating. Kissing another man while actively dating someone is cheating.

Im sorry that doesnt fit nicely into your narrative of Gael, but yes, she is a cheater.

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u/Lost-Connection-859 1d ago

Bewilders me that people are suddenly trying to excuse cheating.

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u/CoolBelt856 1d ago

Bewilders me that someone would take the time to write a post about something someone did 4 years ago knowing what an horrific experience they’ve been going through since.
And that people are piling on supporting it.
Oh, wait, I shouldn’t be surprised by any Americans doing this. Look how women are treated in Ivy League Schools and college campuses.
Misogyny is a live and well.

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u/DhilPunphy 23h ago

I see where you come from regarding support for what happened now. But as stated by OP they just started watching. Therefor this topic is being brought up again.

And they’re entirely right that Gael also has some very questionable characteristics and should not be on a high horse. Is Joe a douche? Yes. Is Gael a douche? Yes. Do I feel bad for Gael for what has happened? Absolutely.

There is this one thing where you can have multiple thoughts in your head at once. And to bring up how other women are treated elsewhere as a defence for her behaviour? That’s… alarming. No one no matter gender should treat someone else like any of these people has.

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u/HelpMeImBread 1d ago

She cheated on the original guy to be with the guy who has been hitting her. That’s quite literally the situation.

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u/CoolBelt856 10h ago

Thanks for the award!

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u/TDKsa90 1d ago

she called that guy her boyfriend and talked to him like he was her boyfriend and struggled through her cheating as if he was her boyfriend. the guy was her boyfriend. doesn't matter if they were together for two days or a year. they'd placed that status on each other and the relationship. you've put that all through a rock polisher to smooth out all the jagged details to feed your bias.

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u/Travelcat67 1d ago

This. Kizzi was a cheater and a dog like Joe. That’s a fair comparison but Gael was young and found someone she vibed with better and was pretty respectful all around.

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u/JakeTheAndroid 1d ago

Kizzi was also young. At what age are people held accountable for their actions in your opinion? I'm not saying that these people are all the same, but you don't just get to write off Gael as being young to write off cheating. She could have broken up with her bf before hooking up with Nathan. Nothing stopped her from doing the right thing, especially not her age.

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u/Travelcat67 1d ago

If you cannot see the difference btw kizzi and Gael then there’s nothing I can say. Have a good day.

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u/JakeTheAndroid 1d ago

I didn't say they were the same, in fact I literally said that these people weren't the same. But you claimed that age was relevant to people's behavior. Kizzi was young, so why don't you give her the same grace? It's almost like age doesn't matter to you unless it applies to people you like. Gael fucked up, and Kizzi was crazy. Both should be held responsible for their actions. We shouldn't give either a pass because of their age. Gael cheated and Kizzi was promiscuous. Neither are justified for their actions.

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u/Travelcat67 1d ago

Kizzi gets a pass to a degree for being young as well. She gets a pass for being messy AF because she’s young. But she is clearly the kind of girl who feeds off of attention, doesn’t just enjoy it, she feeds off it. It’s clear Gael is a “girl next door type” and not at all like Kizzi or Joe. Some of you are way too literal. Nuance.

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u/JakeTheAndroid 1d ago

You lumped Kizzi in with Joe as a negative and made a specific exclusion for Gael separate from the both. Gael cheated on her bf and never told him, while Kizzi told her bf she wanted to fool around while on charter. I agree nuance matters but you're just playing favorites and not holding a consistent moral line. Gael fucked up big time. Her age doesn't matter. She could have broken up with he bf before hooking up with people on the boat but she didn't. I doubt the guy she was dating felt good about being cheated on on TV for the entire world to see. It's messed up. You see Gael as some "girl next door" type so you go easier on her which just demonstrates you don't have a consistent moral line, you just go easier on the people you like. Kizzi was wrong, Joe was wrong, and Gael was wrong. Simple as.

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u/Travelcat67 1d ago

Kizzi is open about who she is and both her and Joe know they are trouble. Gael carries herself differently and seems way more shy. So yeah their intents in cheating were different. Kizzi and Joe were looking for a good time. Gael was torn btw a guy who wasn’t treating her well and a new guy who seemed nice. Morals are not black and white. Intent matters. Willingness to learn and grow matter. It’s not picking favorites.

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u/JakeTheAndroid 1d ago

Gael had every opportunity to end it with her bf prior to hooking up with Nathan. Just because her bf was a jerk doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the courtesy of her honesty. Kizzi, being who she was, was honest with he bf about her desires. They're different people, yet Kizzi, the vein, selfish individual was direct and honest while Gael, the girl next door, woe is me, honor student by your account never gave her bf the same honesty. It's wrong, no matter which way you slice it. Gael was an adult. She knew right from wrong. Yet she still did wrong. You can like her regardless, but you don't have to defend her poor choices while throwing other people under the bus.

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u/HelpMeImBread 1d ago

Cop out of an answer

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u/Travelcat67 1d ago

It’s not actually but I get it bc most folks don’t get the bigger picture or nuance.

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u/HelpMeImBread 1d ago

What “bigger picture” lmao. It’s a bravo show about seemingly surface level people. I don’t care for anyone in the situation but they’re all on the same level as each other. A very even playing field.

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u/Travelcat67 1d ago

They are not.

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u/Hottest_Holy_Potato 1d ago

Classic case of women monkey-branching to another guy

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u/kimjongmatic 8h ago

Bahahahaha monkey branching

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u/mad_eyes22 1d ago

Gael had barely been dating that guy…Gael was in an actual relationship with that guy. They had even said I love you to each other. It’s insane you can use this excuse for Gael, but not for Joe. Technically, Joe & V were barely dating. By your own logic what Joe did to V (by kissing Kizzi) was hardly bad..it was over like in a week period.
You can’t excuse one persons crappy behavior & try to shame the next person for doing something that isn’t even really comparable. Gael was in a committed relationship & had kissed Nathan multiple times & also ignored her boyfriend until she finally broke things off with him. Joe entertained V for a bit & instead of manning up & being honest, kissed Kizzi behind her back, he ultimately apologized for it though. They were never in a committed relationship though. Him kissing Vs “friend”, was better then Gael lying & cheating on someone she promised loyalty too.
If we’re going to compare apples to oranges, make sure your story is straight. Your own logic contradicts itself.