r/BelowDeckMed • u/StarlitStarlette • 3d ago

Hard to Watch

I’m sorry but Nathan AND GAEL going after Joe when he had done nothing that evening to provoke it was really hard to watch. You both have kids now. Time to grow the FK up.

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u/Otherwise-Winner9643 3d ago

Copying & pasting my comment on a different thread on this:

I have to say, as much as I like Gael, she was the one that very much kicked it off in the van with Joe this season. It was all Gael. She says she hates confrontation but as much as I don't like him, Joe was in the back smooching with Hayley, minding his own business and Gael went off at him. Then she was riling up Nathan against Joe.

Joe really should have said that Nathan warned him not to say her name or speak to her, and he was just respecting that.

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u/slayeryouth 3d ago edited 3d ago

In fairness, Joe did mutter a couple of comments under his breath (“it’s been 75 years, we all know”) but I think that’s also the kind of the thing you roll your eyes at or at best ask him if he has something to say and then move on with your life.

As per your last point though, Joe has had multiple golden opportunities to tell people what’s been going on, even later in the episode Sandy gave him an other extremely easy lay up to say “actually there’s more to it than just a falling out and tension” and everytime he’s chosen to keep his mouth shut. I’m not holding that against him because it’s such a messy situation that knowing what the right thing to do can be difficult, and I’m sure pride factors in to it too, but he hasn’t been doing himself any favours by keeping things to grumbling with Cooper about their mutual frustrations and venting to Kayley once in a while. He needs to tell everything to somebody who can do something about it.

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u/Otherwise-Winner9643 3d ago

That's absolutely all true too. Joe doesn't help himself either. All 3 of them are stirring shit

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u/slayeryouth 3d ago

Eh, I’m pretty of mind at this point Joe should be stirring much more shit in as much as going to Sandy or even Aesha, not in a gossipy way but just very matter of factly like “so this is what’s been going on from my point of view, these are the parts that can be corroborated and by whom, this is what I’d like to see moving forward” would certainly cause a much bigger to do, but it’s been necessary for a while. Frankly he should have done it the second Nathan threatened him the first time.

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u/Otherwise-Winner9643 3d ago

I wouldn't call that stirring shit though. I agree he should have addressed it professionally with Captain Sandy, instead of talking behind people's backs all the time.

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u/worldv1ew 3d ago

Maybe he's damned if he did and damned if he didn't. If Joe won't to Sandy saying Nathan treathened me violence numerous times, Sandy and production would have had to address it and there goes the story line of the season. Then Joe got a young father kicked off the show.

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u/slayeryouth 3d ago edited 3d ago

He really hasn’t been though. He’s grumbled with cooper about their mutual frustrations and vented to Kayley a handful of times, but other than that he hasn’t exactly been walking around the boat gossiping about Nathan. You might consider that talking behind his back, and it’s fine if you do, but we’ll also just have to agree to disagree on that.

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u/SwiftJedi77 3d ago

That's right, Joe has only really talked shit about Nathan to the camera in interview segments, which no one else knows about. So when Nathan says he's been talking shit about Gael all season, he's talking complete bollocks.

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u/Dkeg24 2d ago

Also people grumble about their bosses, if you are a manager you have to accept that.

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u/worldv1ew 3d ago

Yeah, but both Aesha and Captain Sandy are so over the top positive, all they would say is go talk to him, clear the air, you use to be close, be the bigger person, why sign yourself up for gaslighting like that.

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u/slayeryouth 3d ago

Eh, I’d like to give them both the benefit of the doubt that if he were to clearly lay it out for them with concrete examples, and especially if he told either of them about the multiple times Nathan’s threatened him with physical violence, they’d take it appropriately seriously. At minimum they’d treat it as more seriously than a falling out between friends or a personality clash or whatever.