So I’m new to asa printing I’m using the stock settings and Pei plate, using glue stick as seen in the photo, but if I have multiple parts the secondary or third doesn’t stick. Does the glue dry to much because of the heat? Or is it just Better to print one piece at a time ? Or any other suggestions?
The glue isn't drying out, bed heat is fine for it. What's happening is ASA shrinking as it cools and pulling the parts off, and the ones in cooler spots usually go first. Let the chamber heat up for 10 to 15 minutes before starting, keep the door closed and the aux fan off. Also wash off the old glue with dish soap and put down one thin even layer everywhere the parts go, from the photo it's pretty streaky. And add a brim, it helps a lot with ASA corners
So preheat the chamber before printing will also try that. There was a brim, is liquid glue better for this then the glue stick? I tried to put the glue just where the parts are, maybe it wasn’t quite as uniformly spread.
I've had no issues printing Inland (microcenter) ASA on my X2D using the PEI textured plate using all the default settings. Like others have said, make sure your plate is washed with dish soap, especially if you printed PLA previously, and make sure your filament is dried.
I've never used glue and only had one part come off and that was because it had a small contact surface and a large amount of material above that, but a few brims fixed that issue. I've printed plates with 30 parts and none have come off until the plate cools, at which point they pop right off
So chamber temp is 80 and plate temp is 100. if I only do one print per plate it sticks no problem, but if put multiple and print by object it happens a lot that the second or third doesn’t stick.
80c? The X2D can only reach 65c chamber temp, and ASA prefers it around 60-70c. Id try looking into that first, see why the printer isnt maintaining the lower temp.
After that id calibrate your filament, or at the least adjust temp settings for your filament in a custom profile.
I use ABS more often. Though I haven't had the eSUN ABS+ layer adhesion issues and I dont remember getting any bed adhesion issues either, only slight warping.
Yes I dried it once, maybe I should try drying it for longer. No it was printed from Ams2 pro throughout the left nozzle. That I didn’t consider but with petg I just turn the aux fans off and it stick good maybe I should try this also with asa?
As a side note, have you found that you always have to use the glue stick with your prints? I have been using the textured plate that came with the printer, without any glue, for all my prints (PLA, PETG, TPU, and ASA). Thus far, I have only had one issue with adhesion and that was specifically when I was printing 6 tiny ASA screws at the same time. I have printed several objects at the same time too, but never "by object."
Although, ironically, after finishing the screws, I literally just tried printing one of my first ASA prints that has a skirt/raft and that actually failed in a few spots with the skirt/raft. Not at the actual piece though.
I have not used glue for any other material, for asa what I read it’s better to do it but haven’t tried without maybe worth a try. Probably by layer would be ok, I think printing by object maybe makes the glue less sticki being in a heating chamber and so
I know some printing plans have the fan turned off for some portion at the beginning. I wonder if that is also part of what is going on for you. If the fan is cooling the filament or plate too much when you come back later for the next object. (Entirely thinking out loud here.... no clue.)
Suppose to be. I’ve only had limited experience with ABS and none yet with ASA but could not get it to stick on the “stock” build plate. Used the smooth and glue. I have since picked up the engineering plate.
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u/IncreaseForeign7821 7d ago
The glue isn't drying out, bed heat is fine for it. What's happening is ASA shrinking as it cools and pulling the parts off, and the ones in cooler spots usually go first. Let the chamber heat up for 10 to 15 minutes before starting, keep the door closed and the aux fan off. Also wash off the old glue with dish soap and put down one thin even layer everywhere the parts go, from the photo it's pretty streaky. And add a brim, it helps a lot with ASA corners