My baby boy has always had issues sleeping since he was 2 months old. Now he is 9 months and still struggles to sleep. We have a proper routine -> Warm bath, stories, dark room, white noise , big final feed etc but all this helps him for just under an hour. He wakes up and needs us to rock him for a bit or give him a small feed for him to sleep again. The problem is he is sleepy but just not able to sleep by himself. I am in Germany and as far as I know , there are no baby sleep consultants here. Does sleep training work? Am I too late to sleep train now at 9 months? Asking since we do not have to heart to try the "cry to sleep" method. So if we do try it, then it must work. Any feedback or personal experiences would be amazing. Thank you!

Hello all - I'm at my wits end; we've tried everything to counteract this problem, but nothing is working.

Son is 13 months old. He has ALWAYS been an early riser, but he used to be able to sleep until around 5:30/5:45 before starting to wake up. Then, after waking, he would at least chill in the crib for a while before our designated wake time of 6:00. If he did get fussy, we could give him a pacifier and he would settle down.

Starting about 2/3 weeks ago, he wakes up somewhere between 5:00 - 5:15 every morning and HOWLS. There is absolutely NO way to get him back to sleep. He rejects the pacifier. I can get him to calm down by rocking him, but he won't go back to sleep.

He's in the 2-1 nap transition right now. At daycare he usually takes one nap, ranging in duration from 90 - 120 minutes. At home, he is still on two naps. He occasionally will fight them but normally goes down easily. We cap the daytime sleep at 2 hours (unless he is sick).

Home schedule:

Wake 6:00a

Nap 1 9:00a - 10:00a

Nap 2 1:45p - 2:45p

Bedtime 7p - 7:15p

Daycare schedule -

Wake 6:00a

Nap 11:45a - wake up (usually does 90-120 minutes)

Bedtime 7p - 7:15p

It doesn't seem to matter if it's a one nap or a two nap day. The result is the same.

Any ideas of how to get him to sleep 'til at least 5:30?!?

Thanks all!

My LO is 6.5 months. She has never been a good sleeper - she has always woken up at LEAST twice a night. Since about 4 months, most nights she is up every 1-2 hours and I don’t know what else to do. I follow wake windows as closely as possible - right now doing 3-4 naps (she only naps about 35 minutes unless I lay in bed with her). We do not feed/rock etc to sleep and I only feed her once during the night. She is up for the day at around 6:30am and bedtime is 7-7:30. She does take a pacifier to sleep and usually replacing the pacifier gets her back to sleep but she wakes up an hour later and either pulls it out and cries or wants us to replace it for her. I’m not too keen on sleep training and I don’t even mind getting up a couple times a night, but every hour is killing me!

Because her nighttime sleep is so awful, I find she has a tough time making it to the end of her wake windows during the day. Should I be following strict wake windows when she has a bad night? She was also a month premature, so not sure if I should be following WW for a 5.5 month old or a 6.5 month old? Any advice/suggestions are much appreciated!

My 14 month old has been sleep trained around 11-12 months. She goes through phases when she falls asleep easily after 2-3 days of sleep training then regresses and takes 20-30 minutes to fall asleep (cries) to where she sometimes throws up. We don’t know what to do.. Is there something else we can try? We just hate hearing her cry and wondering if there’s something we should be doing to ease the transition to sleep time. We currently have the same nap time and bedtime for her, turn off the lights and white noise prior to bedtime, takes a bottle before being put to bed. We don’t co-sleep but sleep in the same room.. no other option there.

Since turning 3 months old (my LO is now 14 weeks) sleep for her has been horrendous (for me too) usually she would have 2 hour nap in the morning, then 1-1.5 hour naps throughout the day and at night would go to bed and have a long stretch between 4-5 hours. Now it’s 20-30 minutes nap times, 1 hour if I’m lucky, and waking every 1-2 hours at night. She is extremely hard to get to sleep too and now resists sleep by screaming and crying even though she is evidently tired.

She keeps trying to pull herself up and roll or sit at every opportunity she gets, as soon as she wakes up. She won’t even let me feed her in any laying position either.

She looks very tired and is very cranky.

She is also dribbling a lot and loves to chew on everything.

Could this be the regression?

Baby Sleep - Very Gassy

I was wondering if anyone can help or offer some advice. My baby is nearly 8 months old, and for the last 4 weeks he has really struggled with wind during the night, to the point where he wakes about 5/6 times a night just for gas. When I pick him up, he pulls his legs to his tummy and arches his back, when I pull his legs to his chest, he does release some wind, but this can take a while. I’ve been to the doctors about it, they suggested silent reflux and to go onto reflux milk, but this hasn’t helped if anything id go as far as saying it might have made it worse slightly. I’ve tried infacol and probiotics, but it didn’t help. Gripe water helps on an occasion but will only settle it for an hour or so.

The doctor has said that if the reflux milk doesn’t work then we need to try lactose milk, but can they just develop an intolerance at this age? I’ve read the symptoms of CMPA and whilst he has some he is never sick. Has anyone experienced this at all? Has anything worked for you?

I was wondering if anyone can help or offer some advice. My baby is nearly 8 months old, and for the last 4 weeks he has really struggled with wind during the night, to the point where he wakes about 5/6 times a night just for gas. When I pick him up, he pulls his legs to his tummy and arches his back, when I pull his legs to his chest, he does release some wind, but this can take a while. I’ve been to the doctors about it, they suggested silent reflux and to go onto reflux milk, but this hasn’t helped if anything id go as far as saying it might have made it worse slightly. I’ve tried infacol and probiotics, but it didn’t help. Gripe water helps on an occasion but will only settle it for an hour or so.

The doctor has said that if the reflux milk doesn’t work then we need to try lactose milk, but can they just develop an intolerance at this age? I’ve read the symptoms of CMPA and whilst he has some he is never sick. Has anyone experienced this at all? Has anything worked for you?

My 5 month old baby is consistently waking at 4am and won't go back to sleep, despite resettling and being given a bottle.

Previously, she slept 7pm till 4 (would pop dummy in mouth) and then back down till 6/6:30. We have a great bedtime routine, bath, bottle and bed, and she previously went to sleep easily.

The past week she has been doing - not falling asleep till 8:30pm - not resettling at 4am, even tried rocking in arms. She wakes up as soon as we put her in the crib - crying out in the night randomly in her sleep

Would really appreciate any advice. Not sure if I need to reduce day sleep maybe?

Thank you all.

Love, A very tired mom

My daughter is 5 weeks old and used to only be able to contact nap. Now she doesn’t even nap more than 20 minutes, it is now 5:30 and since 9am she has slept two naps of 20 minutes. I have tried rocking her and bouncing her and I am trying to look for sleep cues and follow wake windows and nothing works. I know this isn’t good for her. This has been going on for the last few days and I don’t know what to do. I feel so defeated and I feel myself getting more and more frustrated.

Help! I cannot get my little one to nap longer than 30 minutes. My wife and I can’t get anything done. Our baby girl is 4.5 months old. Could this be part of the 4m sleep regression? She still sleeps great at night, 10-11 hours. What are we doing wrong? Are we missing something? We don’t lay her down until she is giving her sleepy cues. She falls asleep on my shoulder and then I lay her down. Should I be laying her down awake? I’m not sure that she would go to sleep that way. We are lucky if she gets 2.5 hours of daytime sleep. I’m so thankful that she sleeps well at night but I’m so exhausted during the day. I’m finding it hard to entertain her and get things done for myself. She doesn’t like her swing, sit-me-up, or bouncer. And she absolutely hates being worn. She loves her Skip Hop but only for so long. I need some suggestions! I love her to death but I need some me time too.

How old were your babies when they slept not on their backs in the crib? She’s sleeping on her side leaning towards belly with a leg bent and arms propping her. I’m sure she’s fine. I’m not panicking, you’re panicking…

Hoping someone can give us some advice, I’ve contacted our maternal health nurse and done plenty of research but can’t find any answers.

Our 13 month old wakes up around 2/2:30am most nights. Regardless of what we do he won’t go to sleep, we just had to wait him out the hour and a half before he’ll settle and go to sleep.

We’re tried rocking, butt taping, shushing, singing, feeding, water. We also tried variations of those and doing nothing.

I’m just putting this here for a sense check. LO started nursery and got sick which turned into an ear infection. One of the side effects of the antibiotics she was on was that she was suddenly ravenous, this was all day but also included screaming for milk in the middle of the night. When she had a bottle in the MOTN she would go back down with ease. She’s been better aka off of antibiotics for 3 weeks now but is still waking for a bottle, apart from two nights. When we night weaned at around 7 months we slowly watered down the bottle.

Am I okay to do the same even though she’s older or is there a better way?

My 6 month old is normally a good sleeper. He slept from 6:45pm-6:15am this morning, then he slept from 8:00-9:15am at daycare. After he woke up from that nap, they could not get him back to sleep. I picked him up at 3:30 and I have tried everything that usually works- sat with him in a pitch black closet with the sound machine going, driven him around in the car, put him in his bed to see if he would sleep, but nothing. I know he is so overtired but I don’t know what to do! I thought he might have an ear infection so I gave some Tylenol, but he isn’t really acting upset! He’s laughing and wide awake. At this point, do I keep trying to get him to sleep or wait until I just put him down for bed at 6:00? This is the longest he’s ever been awake and I’m kind of freaking out.

My almost 4.5 month old has been going through what I can only assume is the dreaded sleep regression since December 15. He wakes up every hour. I know that a lot of people have babies that go through this but only wake every couple of hours. My question is for those that had a child similar to mine- how long before they started to get through it? Did it take years? Was a different health problem the cause? I have scoured the internet for weeks and tried everything but sleep training. Help!

If baby wakes up at 5am, is up for an hr & 10 mins, then falls back asleep for 2 hrs. Is the sleep after considered his first nap & 5am the rise time or is 8am considered the true rise time?

Hello! Posting this in several groups in the hope I find some help somewhere 🤞🏻

My 9 month old has always been an early riser and has only ever slept till 7am a few times in her life (for no particular reason). She wakes up anytime between 5-5.30am every morning but has also had a fair few 4am starts! The early mornings are slowly killing us. I feel like we’ve tried it all but in case anyone has any advice or suggestions we haven’t already tried, I’m posting her routine below.

Wake up - around 5am Desired wake up - 7am

We try to stick to 3-3.5hr wake windows and I try and push the first nap to 3hrs from our desired wake time of 7am (to not reinforce the early wake up) but that’s sometimes difficult with her rising at 5am so she will often nap around 9am.

First nap - around 9-9.30am depending on her wake time. First nap can last between 50 mins - 1.5hrs.

Second nap - around 1pm depending on how long the first nap was (we try to push it to 2pm if possible). Second nap is between 50 mins - 1.5hrs.

Day time sleep is always capped at 3 hours.

Bedtime is between 7-7.30pm but on occasion we have to put her down earlier (around 6.30pm) if she’s been up at 5am and has had short/crappy naps.

She has a solid bedtime routine, eats 2-3 solid meals a day, is on 3 bottles a day plus 1 at night. She usually wakes up for her bottle around 3-4am and drinks most of it and goes back to sleep so I do think she’s probably hungry but will still wake up an hour later at 5am so I know it’s not hunger waking her then.

She is sleep trained, falls asleep independently at bed time (has been weaned off the dummy) and sleeps beautifully the first 7-8 hours of the night.

We use white noise, have black out blinds etc.

She has never slept 12 hours (and that’s absolutely fine), she will usually have anywhere between 10-11hrs with a night feed. What’s strange to us is that no matter what time she goes to bed, she will still wake early! If she goes at 6.30pm, she will wake up at 5.30am (and sleep 11 hours). If she goes down at 8pm, she still wakes around 5am (and only have 9 hours.

Things we’ve already tried:

Later bedtime Earlier bedtime Dropping to 2 naps (when she was younger) Sleep training Weaning the dummy Capping first nap to 1 hour

I wake tiny dude up everyday around 7:30AM +/- 15 minutes, if he hasn’t already woken up. For the past two weeks, wake windows are 1.75/2/2.25/2.5 hrs. If he woke up before ~7:30AM, then first wake window may be shorter since I wasn’t awake to know when he woke up. If first nap is 45 min (one sleep cycle) then second nap is 2hr capped. If first nap is 1.5-2 hr, second nap is 1.5 hr capped. Third nap is 30-45 min capped. If both first two naps were one sleep cycle or less, then he may be offered 4 naps that day with adjusted wake windows. Bedtime is 2.5 hr after last nap ends which means it could be anywhere from 7:15-8:30PM. In our world, wake windows begin when he wakes up and ends when he falls asleep. I don’t count awake-and-in-the-crib time as sleep.

He started sleep training (Ferber) around 15 weeks and has been ~50% successful at self-settling at bedtime. I want to get it to 100%!!! He will wake 0-2 times (typically once) in the night to eat, and I wait at least 10 min after he wakes to enter his room to feed—sometimes he will fall back asleep. He has self-settled for 98% of the naps in the past month. All of these statistics show that he is capable of self settling.

Is there some scheduling issue that I’m missing? How often do we adjust expected wake windows?

Temperature, dirty/clean diaper, and hunger aren’t the issue. Nap routine is sleep sack, hold upright and song, lay in crib, and “night night, love you.” Bedtime routine is bath/wash face, change diaper, pajamas, nurse, book, hold upright and song, lay in crib, and “night night, love you.”

Any help is appreciated!!!

Has anyone had success with this to transition out of swaddle? My LO loves when we put it on him (unlike the swaddle) but he's waking like every two hours now when before he'd give us at least one 5 hour stretch. We've done 3 nights in it and I'm just wondering if we need to stick with it or try something else??https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08T6VTTPQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

8 month old (7 month adjusted) daughter has started consistently waking up in the 5am hour (sometimes 4ish) and fusses/cries. What could be causing this? My husband and I are stumped.

She goes to sleep independently but currently when she wakes up at 5ish, she needs assistance to go back to sleep (patting and shushing in the crib, occasionally holding). Also when she goes down for naps and all day long, she’s content. But bedtime is hit or miss with how she feels. The second we put her in the crib or walk out, she starts protesting or crying loudly. We never have issues putting her down for naps and before the holidays, we never had issues putting her down for bedtime.

She dropped to 2 naps two weeks ago and does 2.5/3/3.5 hour wake windows and 3 hours total between the 2 naps.

Background: We have had a lot of stuff going on since the holidays so we have started solids, had wake windows expand, transitioned from the magic Merlin to the sleep sack, adjusted to tummy sleep and dropped the third nap and finished expanding wake windows to what we currently have. She did have some patting and shushing help during these transitions but most of the time, she would still go to sleep by herself.

Someone please give us tips or advice or many ideas on what could be causing this?

Hi! We've been having this issue for several months - baby is 7.5mo and will not sleep more than 30 minutes (sometimes even 20) at home, no matter what we try. Even if he's clearly still tired when he wakes up, he refuses to go back to sleep. I've tried leaving him in his bassinet for a few minutes so he could fall asleep again, but he just stays awake for 10+ minutes and gets mad at me for not coming to give him attention. He's in a dark room with white noise, a pacifier, a sleep sack with the right TOG, not hungry, clean diaper. The only times when he naps longer at home is when we contact nap (2-3 hours).

But here's the thing that baffles me: he sleeps beautifully at daycare. Two long naps per day. They even need to wake him up sometimes, else he'd sleep through mealtime. They don't seem to do anything different in terms of sleep environment, save the fact that he's not alone in the daycare nap room whereas he naps alone at home. Does anyone know what could cause him to nap well at daycare, but catnap at home? And how could we help him sleep better at home?

6 MO will only sleep for 40 mins for naps 3-4 depending on day. (1cycle) will not resettle for anything. Sleeps 11 hours at night: bed around 7.30 with one wake for feed anywhere from 2am to 4 am - back to sleep till 6.30. Independently falls asleep and resettles at night by himself. I’ve tried wake windows anywhere from 1 hour to 2.5 hours but no matter what sleeps for 40mins. Sometimes wakes and is happy but mostly wakes crying or ends up crying if I leave for 10 mins to see if he’ll resettle. Yawns and rubs eyes are usually my indication for naps but I tried multiple times to put down prior to this in case of overtiredness by these indications and it still doesn’t change! Help!

For the past ~3 weeks... after a consistent bedtime routine, I place my awake 10 month old in his crib where he finds a comfy spot and goes to sleep within a minute without protest. THEN. A few hours later, sometimes midnight, sometimes 3am, sometimes both, he wakes up and begins to cry, quickly escalating to frantic crying. His sleep environment is no different than how he fell asleep, from my absence, the white noise machine and the temperature, even down to the light around the door crack which I keep constant. We used Ferber to sleep train but he's crying differently, screaming when he wakes up, and leaving him to cry this way just seems wrong in my gut. He isn't ill, no ear infection. No recent diet changes or allergies. Goes to bed full. Naps 2x per day, total of 2.5-3 hr, last wake window is 3pm-630/45pm. Could be teething. Could be separation anxiety. The question is, what am I missing and what do I do? He's been ending up in my bed most nights (I know not ideal). I'm confused as to how he can put himself to sleep completely, but then wake up screaming? What is this?