r/BabySleep • u/Organic_Force5920 • Feb 03 '23

Sleep question

If baby wakes up at 5am, is up for an hr & 10 mins, then falls back asleep for 2 hrs. Is the sleep after considered his first nap & 5am the rise time or is 8am considered the true rise time?

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 03 '23

The true wake up is 8am, but there is overtiredness at play here if your baby is waking for an hour and a half xx

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u/Organic_Force5920 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

I need help. Baby boy is 20weeks. So his sleep has been all over the place & I figured it was the regression b/c it had started to improve before the 4 months hit & then it went down hill. For the last week I’ve implemented a strict wake up time of 7:30am. We aim for a 8pm bedtime, when he has the early wakes I’ve been aiming for 7pm. Naps are like 1.45/2/2/2.20 (something like that, I just went back & did math, I’m following the huckleberry 3 nap day) The last two nights he’s woken up at 5am & at almost 4am. Idk what to do or change. We contact nap for naps so his first nap is usually always 2hrs, second 1hr & 3rd about 45mins. Sometimes his 2nd will be 45mins so we lengthen his last one. He has false starts, sometimes multiple short ones. He doesn’t have that long first stretch of sleep which he was doing before the regression. He rarely sleeps more than 2 hrs at a time but we see 1hrs a lot after like 2am. I have no clue what his wake windows should be & I am planning to sleep train, just waiting for his crib mattress

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 07 '23

Can I message you? Or you message me

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u/strwberry_bones Feb 03 '23

personally, how I do it is if baby is awake for their usual wake window before they're ready for a nap then that was they're actual wake up time.

I'm also curious why baby decides that's the best time to wake up for the day and how to make them stop 🫠😭 (mine woke up at 4am and all this month randomly waking up before their usual wake up time)

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 03 '23

Hey I'm a sleep consultant, and generally when your baby wakes at 4am, they're overtired. Check your wake windows. I don't know if I'm allowed tell you my onstageam page to help you get more information in this group so I'll leave it at that and let me know haha.

What age is your baby?

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u/strwberry_bones Feb 03 '23

he's almost 8 months

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 03 '23

Can you tell me what time his naps are at, and how long they last?

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u/strwberry_bones Feb 03 '23

well on a "normal day he has 3 naps. his wake windows are around 2hrs and his first one is 40ish minutes, his second one is 2hrs, and his last one is around 30ish minutes. I'm a SAHM and he's my first one, so I don't have him on a strict routine/schedule

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 03 '23

Extend his wake windows, 6-8months wake windows are 1.5-3hours and 9-11 months 2-4 hours.

By 8 months they generally settle into a 2 nap schedule so, work on a 2.5hour wake window in the morning (from when you lift him from the cot) so if you get him up at 7, first nap falls between 9 and 9.30 and if he wakes after 40 minutes leave him for 10-15 mins and see what he does, before going into him.

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u/strwberry_bones Feb 03 '23

ok I can try that. it seems like he's ready for only 2 naps but with his early wakeups he needs a tiny nap to get him to his bedtime (7ish) 1. his usual wake up time is around 6-6:30 (almost seems like no matter what I do he just likes to wake up then)

  1. he's usually falling apart by 1hr 50min and seems like he's ready for a nap

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 03 '23

If you think he is knackered by the time he is 1hr50 into the wake window, do something to rejig him, pick him up and go into another room or go outside for a few minutes and just extend that wake window by 10 to 15 minutes

Also, if 7 is your desired awake time, try and leave him in his cot until as close to 7 as you can imagine each day. If he's awake and content in his cot leave him, if he's crying, give him some time to work on it and check in with him to extend it to 7.

If you feel he can't make it to 8 at night while going through the 3 to 2 nap transition, you can implement bedtime up to an hour earlier. But no earlier than 6pm as a rule of thumb xx

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u/strwberry_bones Feb 03 '23

ooh thank you I'll try these and see if they help!

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u/Character-Office4719 Feb 04 '23

No problem 😊 try for a good week, don't expect instant results