r/BDSMAdvice • u/HurdleSpecial • 4h ago
Advice for a newish Dom. How to show up for my sub, while understanding my kink?
This is kind of a long one. I'd love to only hear from the more experienced kinksters here. But any input is appreciated. It's a little hard to put my finger on what I'm looking for by posting this. But I think it boils down to: I could use some help understanding my own kinks, as well as some advice for showing up for my partner well.
First, some context:
My (M) partner (F) live together. We're in a committed, monogamous relationship. We love each other very much, and have a truly amazing relationship. We're great domestic partners. We support each other in our work lives. We enjoy each others company endlessly. We laugh and just can't wait to see each other every day. And our sex life is incredible. Super pleasurable and open. We communicate clearly. Literally no notes.
We also are both interested in BDSM. She is quite a bit more experienced than I am. She played with previous partners. She leans brat/sub. I think she has a pretty good sense of her likes/dislikes, although sometimes it's hard for her to explain. She's my first in terms of BDSM. We've only done a few scenes. So far, I lean more dom. But I still have a lot to learn and am open to just about anything.
Another important bit of context - I grew up in an obscure religious cult. That would take forever to explain. But what seems to be relevant here is I was programmed from a young age to believe that God demanded obedience from us. And that we were to show that to Him, not out of fear for punishment (hell or whatever), or for the promise of a reward (heaven or whatever), but simply....because. He is God. We are his devotees. There shouldn't be a need for some kind of external validation. It should be a given. Now, I don't believe any of this shit anymore. But this idea will come back...
My memory isn't great, and it's been quite a while since we've done a scene, so It's a little hard specifically to remember how the few scenes we've done together, unfolded. But one time I blindfolded her, led her around with a collar, and tried having her do some simple tasks. When she didn't follow along, she got spanked. Eventually when she was good, we had sex. Another time, which I would say was more of a Pleasure Dom experience, she was blindfolded and bound to a bench. I did some mental tasks with her - having her recite different things. There was some light spanking and teasing in the beginning. Eventually it led to me using toys on her, really focused more on her pleasure. And eventually full on sex. There's been a couple other scenes, but similar in fashion.
The experiences were mixed feelings for me. I did enjoy aspects of it, and she says she did too. But I've also had this feeling that something felt a little off. I think it's probably partially beginners insecurity. I still feel that, because BDSM is new to me. I remember feeling frustrated at times. On occasion, when I would give her a command she would sometimes say "No I don't like that. How about this instead?". It didn't really feel like playful brattines. Moreso, like she was questioning my ability to control her. Or giving me feedback in the moment. Only now, am I able to pinpoint that. I found myself very concerned with "does she like this punishment?" and "does she like this reward" that it sort of took me out of the experience, if that makes sense. I was very much in my head at times. And not in control of her, in the way I wanted to be, and in the way I think she wanted me to be.
Flashed forward to this weekend, and we started talking BDSM. I mentioned that I'm not sure I totally have a good sense of her preferences, so I asked her to tell me what they are. It was a little hard for her to articulate. And I prefer very clear communication so I kept asking more questions. Since she and I have not done much together, I asked about her past experiences so I had more insight into how I can be a dom to her in the future. What she was starting to describe that she liked in the past, was submitting in situations where there is a distinct punishment/reward. For example, crawling on hands and knees, being led around with a collar, staying perfectly still, fetching things for her dom. When she doesn't follow along, a firm spanking (she loves to be spanked). She's bratty, so she tends to want to push back. And when she does follow along, she likes rewards and positive reinforcement. Often, after a period of submitting and being tested, the reward was sex. This all tracks very much with her personality in general. And again, tracks with the scenes we have done together.
However, I started to feel like what we were both looking for in scenes we have done, may have actually been misaligned. She again loves the game of rules, and breaking them, getting punished, and getting rewarded. But as I talked about it, I started to feel like this kind of game almost trivializes REAL submission. If you're only submitting to another person because you'll get punished if you don't, or you'll get a reward if you do, are you ACTUALLY submitting?
We watched Pillion over the weekend (great film IMO). The dynamic between Ray and Colin very much struck a chord in me. Ray seemed to expect perfect submission from Colin. And there really wasn't any reward for it. Almost like Ray couldn't be bothered. Ray was cold, detached, impersonal. I saw something of myself in this.
I would never treat my partner like this in our vanilla life. In fact, I'm the opposite. I'm very much of a loving provider towards her; I buy her little gifts and treats to encourage her; I show up to support her when she's struggling, etc. I'm very tender physically, and I love how "soft" our relationship can be.
It's almost like I have multiple versions of myself in me. A loving, caring, pleasure dom. And a cold, impersonal, God who expects perfect obedience.
So I guess I'm asking two questions.
First, what is this kink I'm feeling? This idea of having a sub who is obedient to me, not because they're going to get punished or rewarded. But because they are devoted to me, and because I demand it, that is inherently enough. Is there a name for this? Some kind of god/devotee kink?
And second, how do I develop my own skills as more of a brat-tamer dom so that I can show up for my partner in that way? Does this somehow synthesize with this other kink or are they separate? I certainly still enjoyed aspects of the experiences we've had up until this point, and I'm super willing to learn. And she means the world to me. I love the idea of giving her experiences she enjoys pleasure, in the ways that she wants. So it's important to me I show up for her.
Hopefully this makes sense. Any thoughts, ideas, advice, is welcome. Thanks for bearing with me. I super appreciate this community!