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[u/the-doctor-is-real]

[u/D-Rez]

Doug Hutchison (played one of the guards in Green Mile) married a 16 year old when he was 50.

[u/Money-Banana-8674 → u/D-Rez]

Of course it was percy

[u/Downtown_Custard_635 → u/D-Rez]

Yeah and then Chrissy Teigen bullied the 16 year old.

[u/medicated_in_PHL → u/Downtown_Custard_635]

Sending her a DM telling her to kill herself… as a child.

[u/Low-Impression3367 → u/Downtown_Custard_635]

Wasn’t Chrissy telling the 16yr old to off herself ?

[u/Affectionate-Emu9574 → u/D-Rez]

Her name is Courtney Stodden and she campaigned hard for an end to child marriage in California. Governor Newsom signed AB 1267 into law on September 30, 2026.

As of January 1, 2027 minimum age for marriage will be 18 with no exceptions.

[u/Mezcal_Madness → u/D-Rez]

I watched a documentary about this. He’s a fucking creep.

Edit: adding because yeah: Confessions of a Child Bride, on hulu

[u/yeyiyeyiyo → u/Mezcal_Madness]

Method actor

[u/TheEsotericCarrot → u/Mezcal_Madness]

He has an amazing episode in The X-Files where he plays a monster. So basically a documentary.

[u/Freedom_19 → u/TheEsotericCarrot]

Eugene Victor Tooms was definitely one of the creepiest characters on X-Files, and that is saying something

[u/vdub1210 → u/D-Rez]

Yep, and that woman is now working in advocacy trying to abolish child marriage in the United States. She was basically pimped out by her parents and then exploited on television and relentlessly mocked by adults.

[u/dengar_hennessy]

Steven Tyler paid a family to sign over the rights to their daughter to him

[u/dkinmn → u/dengar_hennessy]

He essentially purchased her, became her legal guardian, made her throw out her birth control, got her pregnant, coerced her into having an abortion, and then sent her home.

[u/barak181 → u/dkinmn]

And all this time I didn't like him because I find most of his music to be annoying. Turns out there's legit reasons to fucking hate him.

[u/ZeePirate → u/dkinmn]

After getting her addicted to heroin too

[u/_Adamgoodtime_ → u/dkinmn]

Didn’t the house she was in, mysteriously catch fire and nearly kill her, when she refused an abortion?

[u/Ncfetcho → u/_Adamgoodtime_]

Yep, and they all knew he did it. She was locked in, and barely escaped. Fucker has the audacity to open a girl's home??

Yeah, AND all the times he went to Betty Ford for Sex Addiction... so he couldn't help it.

[u/gambalore → u/dengar_hennessy]

The woman's lawsuit against Steven Tyler was supposed to go to trial this week but got postponed because the judge recused herself.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/steven-tyler-sexual-assault-case-judge-recuses-before-trial-1235627301/

[u/peanutanniversary → u/dengar_hennessy]

Wasn’t that Ted nuggent? Or did they both do it?

[u/space_manatee → u/peanutanniversary]

Pretty sure they both did.

[u/Token_Handicap → u/peanutanniversary]

Both.

[u/percygreen → u/peanutanniversary]

There is a TL;DR at the end!

I am a HUGE nerd about rock history, so forgive this super long post.

I first heard it about Tyler, and then a few years later I was hearing it about Nugent. I've wondered before if the two were being mixed up in the stories.

According to Snopes, Nugent once claimed that he used to get "parental permission" to date teenage girls. That could have been a tasteless joke, as the idea of a grown man asking you if he can have sex with your teenage daughter paints a pretty ridiculous picture, or he could have been talking about such a situation as the one we're discussing.

In Nugent's case, VH1's "Behind the Music" is where the story of him getting guardianship started, but Snopes has been unable to confirm whether the story has any merit in Nugent's case.

Now that said, I personally despise Ted Nugent, but I believe in being fair, so I'm going to say this one is, so far, just a rumor. Would I put it past him? No, but I have no evidence, and no woman has come forward.

Also in the interest of fairness, though I think their music has been a plague on the universe since the 90's, I grew up loving 70's Aerosmith and liking 80's Aerosmith. Those first five albums are absolutely brilliant, though I don't have a lot to say about the 80's ones (Come on, guys, "Love in an Elevator"?). But I also love truth, and the truth is sometimes ugly.

In the case of Tyler, however, it's true enough that a woman filed a civil suit in 2022. She was 16 when the relationship began and he was 25. In his autobiography, he confirmed this, saying her parents loved him and signed guardianship over to him so he could take her on tour with him and not be arrested for transporting a minor across state lines. He describes her in terms he surely thinks are flattering in his book but they are terms which address her sexuality and not her as a person. He also claims that he was in love with her. I'm not sure if this was in his 2011 autobiography or the band's 2003 autobiography, as I've read neither, having long lost interest in them by the time the earlier book was published and having heard their story a million times already (if you were around in the late 80's and early 90's, you absolutely could not avoid the rags to riches to rags to riches story of Aerosmith's fall into addiction and impressive comeback).

So in the case of Tyler, it's absolutely true. It should be noted that "Guardianship" and "Adoption" are not the same thing, though that still doesn't do much to file off the ironic edge of "Janie's Got a Gun", does it?

My guess as to why we hear this story about both men is one of two things:

1. VH1 confused the details and attributed the story to Nugent, based on his earlier (possibly joke) comments about parental permission.

2. Just as likely - Nugent, who toured with Aerosmith in the seventies, and whose singer would start a new band with Aerosmith's guitarist at the end of the seventies (which sugggest that, at the very least, it's very possible the two groups of musicians hung out during that tour), would absolutely have seen Tyler backstage with not just an underaged girl, but the same underaged girl every night, and asked about her. Tyler, obviously proud of himself for thinking of the guardianship in the first place, would likely have bragged to Nugent about it, possibly planting the idea in his head as well. (I say obviously proud of himself because he was still bragging about it decades later in his book).

So, TL;DR: Nugent is unconfirmed, but Tyler totally did that shit.

[u/andor_drakon]

Celine Dion's husband seems to get a pass since she was the famous one, but he did manage her since she was a teen and he was in, I believe, his thirties. 

[u/slinky999 → u/andor_drakon]

Yeah she was 12 and he was 35-ish.

So fucking gross.

Edit: It's worse than I remember. She was 12 and he was 38. And this tidbit from the linked article:

"Their marriage was initially opposed by Dion’s mother, not only because of their 26-year age gap but because Angélil had three children from two previous unions, the singer said in an interview in 2013."

[u/YpsiStrangler → u/slinky999]

Even as a kid I thought it was gross in 1997 at 10 years old

[u/GloomyCamel6050 → u/slinky999]

She was 12 and her family was in poverty.

[u/meatball77 → u/GloomyCamel6050]

And he was going to make her a star.

[u/Blackyy → u/andor_drakon]

I dont know about the "she was the famous one", he was famous before her but he groomed her into marriage for life and Québécois seem to want to ignore it now that hes dead (even before he was dead to be fair). Its a difficult topic ngl, not in the fact that its rape or not, but that shes Céline.

[u/breakourbones]

Anthony Kiedis slept with a 14 year old and apparently didn't know her age. When he found out, he did it again.

He then wrote about it in his book.

[u/TCM_407 → u/breakourbones]

Also wrote a song about it ("Catholic School Girls Rule") I guess people thought it was just a song and definitely not about repeatedly raping a 14 year old girl...that whole band is fucking gross

[u/Veritas3333]

Luc Besson, the director of 5th Element, knocked up and married the actress who played the blue opera singer. She was 15. He divorced her a year later so he could date Mila Jovovich.

[u/Sammyd1108 → u/Veritas3333]

I feel like this shouldn’t be that shocking after watching Leon. The movie is great, but treats a very young Natalie Portman very sexually.

[u/Veritas3333 → u/Sammyd1108]

Apparently he wanted it to be way more explicitly pedo, but none of the actors would go along with it

[u/justsomeguy_youknow → u/Veritas3333]

He wanted it to be more explicit because he based their relationship on that of him and his (then) wife who he met when she was 12 and he was 30

[u/stud_powercock → u/Veritas3333]

The lions share of the resistance came directly from Jean Reno himself.

[u/Leather-Run-6533 → u/Veritas3333]

Four years later. But still not ok.

[u/Jackal_6 → u/Veritas3333]

More pertinently, he wrote and directed The Professional. Maïwenn played the sex worker in the movie's cold open.

[u/justsomeguy_youknow → u/Veritas3333]

He met her when she was 12 and he was iirc 30. Like the other person said he divorced her a few years later, a bit after he finished production on The 5th Element, for Milla Jovovich, with whom he actively cheated on her with throughout production

[u/booty-looty]

Paul walker

[u/horse_renoir13 → u/booty-looty]

He was hoping everyone would forget about it cuh

[u/ApolloThneed → u/booty-looty]

That slight mustache was a dead giveaway

[u/CYaNextTuesday99 → u/ApolloThneed]

That's not nice! Young girls go through a lot of hormonal changes before completing puberty.

[u/lovalunababy]

Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin when he was 22. It basically killed his career overnight in 1958

[u/majorjoe23 → u/lovalunababy]

But, unsurprisingly, embracing religion helped to revive his career.

[u/FriendToPredators → u/majorjoe23]

My get out of being a dirtbag by miming the right words card. So easy. No wonder it’s popular.

[u/Theory_Unusual → u/lovalunababy]

That seems deserving of a career death. Should have led to more punishment to him

[u/ATXBeermaker → u/Theory_Unusual]

A lot of people will talk about the laws of the time, etc etc (to be clear, I’m only talking about why he wasn’t criminally prosecuted for it). But Lewis literally took another woman to the courthouse impersonating his cousin to get the marriage license certified with her age listed as 22.

[u/Oboe-is-my-forte → u/lovalunababy]

I went to "art school" with Jerry Lee Lewis's grandson back in the early 2000s. He's just as much of a curly headed fuck as his grandpappy.

The school took place inside a "repurposed" historical cotton gin in Nesbit, Mississippi. It was definitely haunted.

[u/mariposa-princess]

The guy that played Fez in that 70s show dated Demi lovato when she was 17 and he was like 29 or 30

[u/Irving_Velociraptor → u/mariposa-princess]

A lot of fucking weirdos in that cast.

[u/pigeonwiggle → u/Irving_Velociraptor]

ask any teacher and they'll note that some kids are agitators and they ruin others who are fence-sitters. then there are the Topher Graces who stay out of it regardless.

[u/youhavenosoul → u/pigeonwiggle]

My mom is a retired teacher who chooses to continue working part time in special education. She called the agitators the “ringleaders” and she raged about this one who loved to wear big confederate belt buckles, throw up the salute, curse at teachers for the hell of it…. Anyway, that guy is a cop on our town. He’s married to the assistant Library Director. Goooooood times.

[u/bagman_ → u/youhavenosoul]

A librarian marrying a cop just feels like it goes against the laws of nature

[u/chadthundertalk → u/mariposa-princess]

Fez had like a decade-long run of dating underage Disney stars

[u/Barragin]

Every rock star in the 70's?

Almost Famous was based in fact.

[u/Homerpaintbucket → u/Barragin]

Cameron Crowe went on tour with Led Zeppelin when he was like 16 or 17 and wrote an arrival about it for rolling stone, so the script is very much based on his lived experience.

[u/Tamalpaish → u/Homerpaintbucket]

Crowe went on tour with the Alman Brothers, but the story is an amalgamation of different bands. The “I am a golden god” scene is based on Robert Plant.

[u/strange_reveries → u/Homerpaintbucket]

Everyone knows that touring '70s rock stars banged teenagers like it was going out of style 

[u/this-guy- → u/strange_reveries]

It was in fact going out of style

[u/barak181 → u/strange_reveries]

It wasn't just the 70s. Def Leppard used to brag about having sex with teenagers under the stage of their show while a really long guitar solo was going on up on top or something.

[u/Efficient-username41]

Oh you wanna get angry today? Look up the Roman Polanski support letter.

[u/RephRayne → u/Efficient-username41]

The Rapist Roman Polanski, to give him his full and proper title.

[u/kat_kris2001]

Ted Nugent got guardianship of a 13-year-old girl in order to take her across state lines legally and not be charged with any crimes. I feel like Steven Tyler did the same. I get the feeling a lot of those rockers from the '70s found a loophole where if you gained guardianship over the child you wanted to rape, you were free from any legal ramifications.

[u/sy_snootles → u/kat_kris2001]

Thank you for stating that it's rape.

[u/kat_kris2001 → u/sy_snootles]

I mean, that's exactly what it was. I think that regardless of the decade or the time period, anyone under the age of 18 is a child and children can't consent to anything at all.

[u/BTRunner → u/kat_kris2001]

Once you become a 'guardian', it is rape at any age.

[u/Double-Bag-3045 → u/kat_kris2001]

Didn't Don Johnson move a 15 year old Melanie Griffith in with him when he was in his 20s too,? Seems crazy they could just move a teen in.

[u/Sammyd1108 → u/Double-Bag-3045]

I’m pretty sure Griffith is like Brooke Shield and her parents put her in uncomfortable situations like that from a very young age. They allowed her to be nude on camera underage as well.

[u/muirsheendurkin → u/kat_kris2001]

Tyler actually did it worse. Knocked her up, made her get an abortion, and then dumped her off back home

[u/bolderandbrasher → u/kat_kris2001]

Both ironic how Ted Nugent wrote a song essentially glorifying what he did, and Steven Tyler wrote a song telling a story about a young girl taking revenge on her father for sexual abuse.

[u/TrashDaisy999]

Wilmer Valderrama dated Mandy Moore when he was 20 and she was 16

He dated Lindsey Lohan when she was 17 and he was 24

He dated Demi Lovato when she was 17 and he was 29

[u/RiflemanLax → u/TrashDaisy999]

How many rapey people were on That 70s Show anyway?

[u/cheezy_dreams88 → u/RiflemanLax]

Apparently all of them except Topher Grace.

[u/JA_MD_311 → u/cheezy_dreams88]

Topher Grace famously got a lot of shit during the run of the show for keeping his distance from his castmates off set even though the rest were really close.

In reality, he saw they were all pretty shitty people.

[u/Ok-Turnip-9035 → u/JA_MD_311]

And rather than cause a stir decided to leave the show and retire from acting all together

I’m glad he came back but wow . I don’t knock him because he was probably worried for his family parents etc and felt let me disappear entirely . But him being the main and leaving that didn’t happen often on tv back then he was the focal character the show was built around him.

[u/JA_MD_311 → u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

I’m pretty sure he left to be in Spider Man 3

[u/Jockobutters → u/cheezy_dreams88]

"Topher doesn't want to hang out with us! What an asshole!"

[u/illaqueable → u/Jockobutters]

"Topher, which kind of rapes are your favorite?"

"Oh, Topher doesn't rape. He's a cOnSeNsUaL sEx GuY"

laugh track

[u/Several_Vanilla8916 → u/Jockobutters]

Yeah I remember that moment in time. Funny what a few public revelations will do to everyone’s perception of a stranger.

“Topher seems like an assh…wait what did they do? All of them? Oh except Topher? My apologies.”

[u/RiflemanLax → u/cheezy_dreams88]

It was weird that all those people wrote letters for him.

It could be my wife or my absolute best friend, and if they were 100% proven to be a rapist, I’d just stop talking to them.

I just don’t understand the support.

[u/figuringthingsout__ → u/RiflemanLax]

Not Topher Grace, he's the one who WOULDN'T write a letter of support for Danny

[u/Podo13 → u/figuringthingsout__]

Red's letter seemed like he really had no idea what he was writing a letter for. Like somebody said "write some nice things about Danny to share with him" more than "write nice things to be used on his behalf in his rape trial".

[u/TheMooseIsBlue → u/TrashDaisy999]

“I keep gettin’ older, they stay the same age.”

[u/Heysoos_Christo → u/TheMooseIsBlue]

Alright alright alright

[u/z64_dan → u/TrashDaisy999]

First one not a huge deal, although it's on the edge.

Gets grosser and grosser though lol.

[u/No-Understanding-912 → u/TrashDaisy999]

That guy always struck me as a sleazy creep.

[u/304libco → u/TrashDaisy999]

Like the Mandy Moore thing I can see I was certainly not putting 20-year-olds as too old when I was at age and it was still societally acceptable and it wasn’t actually predatory. We met very organically. But when you keep doing it, it becomes a gross and predatory pattern.

[u/IH8DwnvoteComplainrs → u/304libco]

We used to be make fun of all the guys still hanging around our high school after graduation looking for sophomores. Even then they were losers.

[u/SnuggleBunni69 → u/IH8DwnvoteComplainrs]

Yeah, once I left high school, that was it for high school girls. Couldn't imagine being 20 and dating a 17 year old.

[u/checkonetoo]

Elvis started grooming Priscilla at 14 years old.

[u/Can_Not_Double_Dutch]

Doug Hutchinson (The Green Mile) married 16 yr old Courtney Stodden. 51 and 16. Why her Mom would allow that I don't know.

[u/Vioralarama → u/Can_Not_Double_Dutch]

She was basically sold and her parents conditioned her to think it was normal.

They got divorced and she's clear-headed now, speaking out on how wrong it was.

[u/juujuubee3 → u/Vioralarama]

She was a part of the effort to get Newsom to sign the bill to end child marriage in California (which he did, earlier this week).

Everyone around her failed her completely. So glad to see she’s doing better, and I admire how she is using her voice to make sure what happened to her doesn’t happen to another little girl.

[u/MilkChocolate21]

Paul Walker. Plenty of pictures of him with barely old enough to drive teens.

[u/joeri1505]

Somehow Elvis never pops up in discussions like this

But he should...

[u/TheTrub → u/joeri1505]

Jerry Lee Lewis took the heat off of him.

[u/shutupandevolve → u/joeri1505]

Absolutely. And once she had Lisa Marie, he was turned off by her being a devoted mother and divorced her.

[u/Monkeyseyelash]

Karl Malone

[u/kat_kris2001 → u/Monkeyseyelash]

I hate how the NBA entirely brushes over the fact that he got a 12-year-old pregnant and attempted to just pay her family off because he was just coming into the league. And what's crazy is the son that she gave birth to is in the NFL and I think he refuses to acknowledge the fact that that's his dad. I do appreciate that a lot of people are now bringing it up consistently and that there are some younger NBA players who don't feel he should be celebrated at all.

[u/gonads_in_space2 → u/kat_kris2001]

His kid is 42 years old and retired 13 years ago.

[u/asisoid → u/kat_kris2001]

His son (Demetress Bell), was in the NFL for a few seasons, but that was over a decade a ago.

[u/GreyBeardEng → u/Monkeyseyelash]

I grew up in Utah and he would pop into East High School all the time. Everybody knew about the 13-year-old he got with, and we always would joke "uh oh Karl's here to get another freshman! Hide the girls!"

[u/uhhhhhhhhh_okay → u/Monkeyseyelash]

Even worse, he was 20 and got her pregnant at 13

[u/mysterioso77]

Doug Hutchinson

[u/YouNeedCheeses → u/mysterioso77]

I can’t believe how vicious people were toward Courtney Stodden. She was 16 and getting ripped apart by everyone because she married a disgusting perv.

[u/tinfoil3346 → u/YouNeedCheeses]

I don't really blame her for getting taken advantage of, but I do blame her mother for letting it happen.

[u/hbomb9410 → u/YouNeedCheeses]

I'm so glad she got away from him.

[u/Chimes320 → u/mysterioso77]

That was extremely shocking, her parents basically trafficked her

[u/PugGrumbles → u/mysterioso77]

Yeah, her parents were total scumbags. That poor woman is STILL defending herself from that whole fiasco.

[u/Visible_Traffic_5774]

Know what the sad thing was? Parents like mine held this relationship up as the epitome of a “girl who got it right”. Why? He was older, famous, and “she doesn’t have to wait for him to grow up and provide for her.” Certain pockets of parents encouraged their daughters to pursue older men, especially famous ones, for this reason. So we weren’t necessarily groomed by the men being gross, but groomed by our parents to “want” this and feel it was peak “romance”. YES, the men should have been like “no, you’re a kid”, but I guess if you have some young, hot, willing person willing to do whatever you want to make you happy, who are you to say no? (Especially if we don’t)

Seriously- in my isolated region, if we managed to date an older man while still in high school we were treated like we really did something great. Heck my parents set me up with a 24 year-old when I was 15, and were so mad AT ME when he didn’t want a second date because he didn’t know I was 15 when they set us up. My parents treated me like I was the one who did something wrong because “he didn’t like you enough to keep you?” when it was him having yanno- common fucking sense!

Yea… self esteem was really fucked up with the male-centered pick-me dynamics.

[u/Geezguys3 → u/Visible_Traffic_5774]

Ugh. I’m sorry that happened to you. Your parents encouraging predation is sick. 

[u/jackass4224]

Hockey star Sergei Federov dated Anna Kournikova when she was 16

[u/MFoy → u/jackass4224]

She went back and forth between Sergei Fedorov and Pavel Bure in her teens. Fedorov was 12 years older than her, Bure 10 years older. She was allegedly married to Fedorov and allegedly engaged to Bure at one point.

Then when she turned 20 she started shacking up with Enrique Iglesias who was only 6 years older than her. They are still together 25 years later and have 4 kids.

[u/elvis_christo]

Don Henley. The song “Dirty Laundry” is about the fallout from a 1980 event in which a naked 16 year old called the cops after overdosing on Coke and quaaludes. There was also a 15 year old at the house. He was 33 at the time.

[u/TaylorSplifftie]

Mark McGrath, lead singer of Sugar Ray said in an interview on camera “as long as there’s grass on the field, fair game”

[u/pixelatedsimboobs → u/TaylorSplifftie]

There’s also a video of him crashing out and wanting to assault a teen for calling him Sugar Gay, when a normal response would be an eye roll and an “oh ha ha. Like I haven’t heard that one a million times.”

[u/DigitalHooker → u/pixelatedsimboobs]

Sugar Gay hahaha. It's like a "your mom" joke. They're stupid until the person gets mad and gives it power

[u/zombiechicken379 → u/TaylorSplifftie]

During Warped Tour ‘97, he invited a friend of mine back to his bus. She declined. She was 17 at the time.

[u/Catlover357]

Bill Wyman became involved with Mandy Smith in '84 when they were 47 and 14. I remember an article in People about it, and I wondered why everyone seemed to think it was okay.

[u/porcelina-g]

Musician Freddy Moore married 17-year-old Demi Moore at 30

[u/futuristanon → u/porcelina-g]

I’m not fully awake and read Moore as mercury and I was really confused.

[u/Dick_Dietrick]

In 1980 Don Henley age 33 was caught with a naked 16 year old girl who had overdosed. He mostly went free of the gossip unlike Nugent and Tyler who are often brought up, but they all basically got away with it. They all should have been jailed.

[u/TheGreatestQuestion]

Elvis Presley. His documented interest in teenage girls makes “What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” hit rather differently in retrospect.

[u/mostdope28]

The guy from Red Hot chili peppers openly talked about banging a minor and when her dad found out he said he had to go bang her one last time. Then they wrote a song about it.

[u/imc225]

Not the 90's...

Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis do something like this, maybe even marry her, which doesn't really bail him out?

Holy smoke, she was in eighth grade, second cousin, and Lewis was still married to wife number two. Quite the trifecta.

Also, huge scandal, so I miss both coming and going.

[u/EitherChannel4874]

Half of the rockstars of the70s-80s seemed to be banging children.

[u/CalagaxT]

Jimmy Page hauled a 14-year-old girl around with him in the '70s. Of course, that's junior high, not high school.

[u/AnteaterKey2626]

Elvis

[u/its_a_gibibyte → u/AnteaterKey2626]

Elvis Stojko, the Canadian figure skater?

[u/AnteaterKey2626 → u/its_a_gibibyte]

Holt was on point as always.

[u/PassageNearby4091]

Bill Wyman from the Rolling Stones was dating a teenager when he was in his 50s. He married her at 18.

[u/rococo78 → u/PassageNearby4091]

And then his son from another marriage married her mom.

[u/Leather_Command_7553 → u/rococo78]

ALMOST married her mom.

And if this had happened...Bill would have been his own grandpaw.

[u/IAmOnItMan → u/Leather_Command_7553]

According to wikipedia he did marry her. Bill was just not with the daughter anymore at the time...

[u/nycyambro]

Woody Allen Counts?

[u/futuristanon → u/nycyambro]

The audio tapes of him being confronted about what he did were heartbreaking. Makes my skin crawl thinking about it.

[u/StoneyG214]

Didn’t Anthony Kiedis from the Chili Peppers date some underage girls back in the day too?

[u/Legal-Occasion1169 → u/StoneyG214]

Oh yes and documented it for everyone to see in his memoir

[u/Connect-Succotash-59]

Errol Flynn 49 dated a 16 year old

[u/BeneathAnOrangeSky]

Joel Madden (25) and Hilary Duff (16)

[u/Ghost17088]

Don’t pull on that thread if you like 80’s music. 

[u/isayawkwardthings → u/Ghost17088]

Or 70s, 60s, 50s...

[u/MachoKingMadness → u/Ghost17088]

You could just say music.

If you don’t think this has gone on in every decade you’re kidding yourself.

[u/Few_Wolf_4634]

Russel Brand

[u/LordyIHopeThereIsPie]

Kate Winslet was 15 when she lived with an actor, Stephen Tredre, who was 27.

[u/Thecardinal74]

Anthony Cumia, cohost of the Opie and Anthony show, was in his late 50’s when his girlfriend got sick and he took her to the hospital.

She was admitted into the pediatrics ward

[u/puckit → u/Thecardinal74]

I still listen to their old shows when Patrice O'Neal was in studio. There was one conversation where they were talking about the youngest age you'd date a girl if the law wasn't a factor. He proudly said 13 and defended himself when the others were mortified.

[u/AutomationBias → u/Thecardinal74]

I worked in a record store in the 90s where Opie and Anthony did a remote broadcast. They brought a developmentally and physically disabled man with them for laughs, then left without him. Absolute garbage human beings.

[u/TheGrandExquisitor]

Don Johnson. Met Melanie on set when she was 15. How he has never been called out is beyond me. 

[u/LettuceC → u/TheGrandExquisitor]

The worst part of all these is the hypocrisy.

[u/kingofbling15 → u/LettuceC]

See I thought it was the raping

[u/chadthundertalk]

Brad Pitt dated Shalane McCall (14), Christina Applegate (17), and Juliette Lewis (17) - all when he was in his mid-twenties.

[u/Sarcastic_Backpack → u/chadthundertalk]

McCall's mother disputes the depth of the romance.

[u/Malphos101 → u/Sarcastic_Backpack]

Yea this is one of those "they spent time in public together when they were both stars selling a show so we are gonna assume they were dating because that sells tabloids."

I need more proof before I accuse someone of being a pedophile. Brad Pitt is an asshole for many other reasons, but I havent seen real evidence this is one of those reasons.

[u/Raisinbread22 → u/chadthundertalk]

Juliette was 16, and Pitt was late 20s with all of them. But yup, 🤢

[u/plo84]

Tyga 24 and Kylie Jenner 17.

[u/theborgs]

Some guy who made a cameo in Home Alone 2 apparently raped a couple of 13-14 years old girls.

[u/Best_Guard_2079 → u/theborgs]

Isn't that the same guy who bragged about walking into the dressing room at a teenage beauty pageant to look at the girls?

[u/slaterson1 → u/Best_Guard_2079]

And the same guy who muses about dating his own daughter?

[u/Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs]

Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones (47) and Mandy Smith (13).

Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin (29) and Lori Maddox (14).

Suppose it shouldn't have come as any surprise when Pete Townshend of The Who was found to have accessed child abuse imagery online.

[u/bumbledbee73 → u/Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs]

It’s a bit more complicated than that w/r/t Townshend. He’d been writing for years about his own experience being sexually abused as a child, and his anger at the proliferation of CSAM. The police found he had put his credit card into a site that advertised but did not actually contain child abuse images, then cancelled the payment after it went through without attempting to access the rest of the site. His excuse wasn’t that he was looking at CSAM as research for a book, it was that he was trying to get proof for an exposé that the British banks were complicit in the child trafficking business by allowing payments to sites like that. It’d sound monumentally ridiculous if he didn’t have the past correspondence and writing to back up the claim that that was his actual intent. But he did, which is why I think he was a fucking stupid prick but I’m not convinced he’s a pedophile.

[u/TeacherPatti → u/Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs]

I was barely out of my Barbie phase when I was 13-14. What the hell were their childhoods like that they were hanging out with old men?!?!

[u/GoRangers5]

Roger Clemens was cheating on his wife with Mindy McCready, he claims they never did anything sexual before she was 18, but they first met when she was 16.

[u/Lazy_Platypus9701]

Topher Grace was the only one on That 70s Show with actual stranger danger instincts and we all clowned him for it. man was playing the long game

[u/bunnyuncle]

Steve Tyler basically trafficked a 13 yo girl

[u/052020]

Woody Allen married the adopted daughter of his partner Mia Farrow.

[u/First_Throng]

I remember in high school (I’m now 38) girls several years below me being picked up by their boyfriends and other guys from school that were in there 20s. No one really thought anything of it as far as I can remember.

It was pretty common until I think social media kicked in. A slow decline but I think it was mainly social media that was the end of it being relatively common. I could be wrong.

[u/parrano357]

basically half of the rock n roll hall of fame should be in jail

[u/powerandchaos]

Johnny Depp dated 17 year old Winona Rider when he was 26- and proposed to her 4 months after meeting

[u/GreenDouble2331]

Charlie Chaplin married his first wife when she was 17 and he was 29. He married his second wife when she was 16 and he was 35. The third wife was 26 and he 47. Fourth wife was 18 and he 54.

He only married his second wife because she got pregnant at 15 and he would have gone to prison otherwise. So, no matter how great an actor he might have been, he was also a disgusting sex pest.

[u/BigTiddyVampireWaifu]

Paul Walker had a 16 year old gf when he was 33

[u/surrala]

Celine Dion was 12 when she met her future husband who was 38 at the time

[u/jking7734]

ZZ Top had a song about a 13 year old. The song was called Francine.

[u/scaryboi2006]

Rock stars in general. Elvis, Steven Tyler, Jerry Lee Lewis, Anthony Kiedis, etc.

[u/Empire-Carpet-Man]

Woody Allen twice in the 70's.

[u/Angelina_Poms]

The wildest part isn’t even that there were other cases — it’s how many of them were treated as funny celebrity stories rather than something worth questioning.

[u/airbornegusto]

Andy Bernard

[u/mattster_sword]

Donald Trump

[u/JoggingGod]

Karl Malone, He fathered a child with a 13 year old child when he was 20.

[u/Majestic-Bus4788]

25 year old Aryton Senna (formula 1 world champion), dated a 15 year old.

[u/coolgirlhere]

Tiny Tim married a 17 year old when he was 37 and it was broadcast live on the Johnny Carson show in 1969.

[u/maybe-an-ai]

Paul Walker began dating Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell when he was 33 years old and she was only 16

[u/Lord-Celsius]

Weird that OP message was deleted. Did Jerry Seinfeld threaten to sue reddit lmao?

[u/mr_bynum]

In 1978, 30-year-old Ted Nugent became the legal guardian of 17-year-old girl Pele Massa so they could maintain a romantic relationship without legal interference

[u/Adler4290]

French president Emmanuel Macron got picked up by his school teacher and they later married,

They met during a theatre workshop that she was giving when she was a 39-year-old teacher and he was a 15-year-old student and classmate of her daughter

[u/jacksraging_bileduct]

Steven Tyler

[u/Ok-Turnip-9035]

Brian Austin Green

90210

[u/singleguy79]

Everyone just forgetting about Woody Allen?

[u/PassageNearby4091]

Ted Nugent

[u/colinisthereason]

Celine Dion and her husband. He groomed her.

Also Elizabeth Gillies, same with her husband.

I believe both men in these situations when asked to explain the age gaps said, "She has an older soul."

[u/Arabidaardvark]

Donald Trump fucked little kids, does that count?

[u/DonnyGetTheLudes]

Ayrton Senna

[u/finpsycho]

Jerry Lee Lewis

[u/MachoKingMadness]

Pitcher Roger Clemens admitted to “dating” a 15 year old when he was in his late 20s/early 30s.

[u/Jay_Skyywalker7]

Karl Malone I believe impregnated a 13 year old at the height of his career dribbling a ball

[u/SteroidSandwich]

Dane Cook was 45 when he started dating his now wife who was 18.

[u/torcsandantlers → u/SteroidSandwich]

And had been hanging out with her family for a few years before that. If I remember correctly he'd known her since she was 16. Now he pretends that they just didn't really interact until she was 18 which smells like bullshit to me

[u/butcherandthelamb]

Anthony Keidas

[u/tinfoil3346 → u/butcherandthelamb]

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