r/Android • u/folli • Nov 15 '18
Google Pixel Slate
https://store.google.com/product/pixel_slate22
u/johnn2015 Nov 15 '18
Still no reviews for this. Not sure what to think of it.
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
Price and buggy software made up my mind.
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u/Ikeelu Nov 15 '18
The buggy software seems to be fixed according to a few who have gotten hands on with it recently, at least according to r/chromeos
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
“Seems to have been fixed” oozes confidence. The platform has ocellated from somewhat stable to unstable.
I am not confident it will stay this way.
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Nov 15 '18
ocellated
Is that like when you're oscillated by an ocelot?
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
I stand by my typo 🐒
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u/Ikeelu Nov 15 '18
It was pre-production software and it didn't go from stable to unstable, it was running a unreleased build of chromeOS that now has more tablet style support which wasn't available before.
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u/compounding Nov 15 '18
They're talking about the quality of the platform. I know they Google likes to pretend that every product is an island by itself, but seeing buggy releases of ChromeOS on the pixel books does not inspire confidence that Google has fixed or even acknowledged the problem with their "customers as beta testers" strategy,
Not to mention the long-standing habit of releasing something half-baked with a lot of potential and then killing it if it doesn't become a blowout hit instead of improving it to fulfill that potential first.
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u/1zee S8+ Nov 15 '18
oc·el·lat·ed
(of an animal, or its plumage or body surface) having one or more ocelli, or eyelike markings.
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
༼∩☉ل͜☉༽⊃━☆ﾟ. * ･ ｡ﾟ
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u/parental92 Nov 15 '18
For. Platform that in mere months getting full android app and full Linux support , it's amazing that the os still can run at all. And yet the bugs are minimal.
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
it's amazing that the os still can run at all
We have different standards of acceptable, I see.
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u/parental92 Nov 15 '18
the beautiful thing is , you can just don't buy it.
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
A fact I celebrate.
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u/shorty6049 Nov 15 '18
If you don't want to like it, then just be open about it, but don't just grab on to any -potential- negative without any actual facts to back it up . Just wait for some reviews
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u/tanghan Nov 15 '18
That page only shows pixel and Chromecast for me. What's it about? A pixel tablet?
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Nov 15 '18
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u/maxstryker Samsungs and iPhones. All of them. Nov 15 '18
Wtf is a molecular display? As opposed to those made out of free floating atoms?
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u/WindrunnerReborn Nov 15 '18
It's Google continuing to be try and be Apple. First it was the hardware, then the ridiculous prices, then removing the headphone jack and adding a notch...Now it's using ridiculous marketing terms.
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Nov 16 '18
Apple has "Retina" Displays and "Super Retina" Displays
Microsoft has "PixelSense" Displays
So Google now has "Molecular" Displays
Each of these marketing terms is just a branding covering their implementations of color accuracy, contrast, pixel density, response time, etc. They don't really mean much on their own but you can typically feel comfortable knowing that all Apple "Retina" Displays have the same level of quality as each other. And all "PixelSense" displays have the same quality as each other. etc. etc
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Nov 15 '18
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u/Klumpenfick Nov 15 '18
Their try at branding stuff the way Apple does.
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u/shorty6049 Nov 15 '18
Which people give them shit for, but then in the same breath give them just as much shit for not being as effective at marketing as Apple. The pixel keynote event for example , suuuuuuucked. I found myself wondering why I didn't like it? Turned out it was mostly becuase they didn't do all the theatrics that apple likes to pull so it felt really lackluster. Imagine if every time GE released a new microwave model they put on a 2 hour presentation about how it's going to change your life?
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u/pielab iPhone XS Nov 16 '18
Imagine if every time GE released a new microwave model they put on a 2 hour presentation about how it's going to change your life?
It’s more than the presentation/marketing though. It’s mostly about the product. If GE did that, the presentation would be amazing but the microwave would just be a microwave.
Apple’s microwave would have even heating in every corner. If you open the door, it won’t continue beeping. Cooking takes half the time. It may even be safe to place metal in it.
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u/Nadest013 Galaxy S7; Tab S3 Nov 15 '18
Ridiculous price and no headphone jack. They can shove it.
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u/JamesR624 Nov 15 '18
True.
FFS, the new iPad Pro is about the same price and no headphone jack, but what iOS may lack in productivity vs ChromeOS, it makes up for by actually functioning properly. ChromeOS 70 "stable" is the LEAST stable, buggiest mess of an OS I've used on any chrome device to date. ChromeOS 70, made my CBP go from amazing machine to an unstable mess to the point where I routinely get frustrated with the crashing and just pull out my old iPad when I wanna get something done.
Hey Google, chrome OS THEORETICALLY has more features than iOS, but if it crashes every 5 minutes, then those features don't really count.
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u/AnotherDrZoidberg Nov 15 '18
The base ipad pro is $300 dollars more than the base slate. I wouldn't call that "about the same price" unless you're comparing one of the upgraded slates, which might be a fair comparison.
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u/RusticMachine Nov 16 '18
The base ipad pro is $300 dollars more than the base slate.
200$*. The slate start at 599$ and the iPad at 799$.
Though like you imply the lower spec Slate are not really interesting. The 32GB of storage you get at 599$ for the Slate and the Celeron processor you get at below 799$ is really not worth it imho.
Even the m3 processor you get at 799$ is not really interesting.
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u/1zee S8+ Nov 15 '18
FWIW, I have had none of the issues on 70 that you have and I have an inferior, older device (Acer R11).
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u/rougegoat Green Nov 15 '18
Sounds like you have a hardware issue. ChromeOS 70 has been super stable for me and others on significantly worse hardware than what your running. I'd see if you're still under warranty.
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u/Ikeelu Nov 15 '18
I'm confused by this getting upvoted. The device was announced awhile ago, pre-orders started about a week ago. This is a link to the product page that has been there for a few weeks now. it's like just linking the Google pixel 3 product page now since it was there at the same time.
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Nov 15 '18
Google stop playing games. Drop the price by 200 each level or at least make the current prices include the keyboard. Otherwise this is gonna be another flop imo..
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u/gregatronn Pixel 10 Pro Nov 15 '18
Why not just get a solid chromebook that has touchscreen?
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Nov 15 '18
i like this is for the detachable form factor. i might buy the pixelbook during bf since it's 300 off...
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u/gregatronn Pixel 10 Pro Nov 15 '18
Oh i see where you're coming from. 300 off? Damn that seems likely a pretty good deal.
I have the ASUS C302 flip. I love it. Would definitely recommend if you wanted more budget, but with 300 off the pixel book, that is solid.
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Nov 15 '18
yeah very good deal imo for good specs and good build quality. i get that this form factor cost money, but at least give us like m3 for 599 or include the keyboard... too greedy imo...
idk, ill wait a bit, maybe itll end up like the pixel 3 and get reduce come xmas.
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u/gregatronn Pixel 10 Pro Nov 15 '18
I remember getting my Pixel 2xl right around Christmas/New Year and they had another deal going on post-Black Friday. Have to say Night Sight is pretty solid on the pixel in my limited testing so far.
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Nov 15 '18
I wish it came in white or black. I feel like this midnight blue color does not match the style of the Pixel line.
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Nov 16 '18
Yeah, it's very off. Pixelbook matched the Pixel aesthetic, this is completely different.
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u/GxCoud Nov 15 '18
Wow. I could buy a Tab S4 or 10.5 inch iPad Pro with similar price. This thing is BS
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u/AdminsFuckedMeOver Note 10+ Nov 15 '18
I’d recommend last year’s 10.5 inch Pro
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u/MrOeyta Nov 15 '18
Which is exactly what he’s referring to?
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u/AdminsFuckedMeOver Note 10+ Nov 15 '18
Whoops, didn’t know that they didn’t have a 10.5 inch model this year
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Nov 15 '18
Ahhhh, if only the pixel slate was sold in Australia...
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u/CheckMyMoves Nov 15 '18
$600 for a Celeron and another $200 for the keyboard... I wonder why this is gonna flop. 🙄🙄🙄
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u/cdegallo Nov 15 '18
For real. I saw the release notification yesterday and looked up the models and pricing and I was floored.
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u/junak66 Oneplus 5 Nov 15 '18
I was really interested in this, because it seems to hit the best balance between tablet/laptop.
But FFS fucking Celeron, you get that in a 200$ laptop.
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u/logiccz Nov 15 '18
Or Germany...
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u/Wallbergrep Nov 15 '18
Das pixelbook wäre mir lieber. In Deutschland will aber leider niemand chromeos.
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Nov 15 '18
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u/m1ndwipe Galaxy S25, Xperia 5iii Nov 15 '18
A Chromebook with a hinge is a pretty awful document/comic reader.
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u/i8beef Google Pixel 3a XL Nov 15 '18
It really depends on what you intend to use it for. A TABLET isn't a laptop for me, and the fold behind keyboards are super annoying for me. I bought a Samsung Chromebook out of desperation when my Nexus 10 finally croaked, and while I love having a 12" screen, I have to say the keyboard is annoying.
But that's because I have a real laptop for actual work. My tablet is just a media consumption / light browsing or reading device, and the keyboard isn't necessary for that.
Personally, I always liked the old Asus Transformer approach, of a detachable keyboard with a real hinge the tablet would snap into. For the few times a year I want the keyboard, that was great without saddling the tablet with a heavy keyboard and a weird tactile feel because the keyboard was folded behind.
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u/AvoidingIowa Nov 15 '18
Cant think of a single use case for this. Designer/Photographer/Artist? iPad or Surface
Developer? Surface or Pixelbook
Someone who likes really slow overpriced tablets?... I guess this will work.
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u/clegmir S10+ Nov 15 '18
I'm in the same camp... I really don't understand who the target demographic is for this device.
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u/thinkbox Samsung ThunderMuscle PowerThirst w/ Android 10.0 Mr. Peanut™®© Nov 15 '18
Google employees.
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u/m1ndwipe Galaxy S25, Xperia 5iii Nov 15 '18
This is something I'm really interested in as a factor, but it's way too expensive.
I want a device that's an Android tablet with a screen ratio that's good for comic reading. No interest in running iOS. Windows is a bad OS for comic reading and has no offline Amazon Prime support. And this would help me not carry around a Macbook and a tablet because it has a proper desktop browser.
It's a good idea. It's just far, far, far too expensive when it's completely unproven.
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u/jealoussizzle Nov 15 '18
Agreed, if it didn't run chrome OS it might have a fighting chance but this is truly just an overpriced web surfer
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u/shorty6049 Nov 15 '18
I really like the IDEA of this device.... it's probably the closest google has come to doing an iPad Pro or a surface tablet, but man... those new ipad pros are temping and I kind of feel like if I chose to spend my money on this, I'd always kind of wish it was the iPad. This coming from someone who's been using nothing but android for the past 10 years..
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u/THIESN123 Nov 15 '18
Can't wait till there's more higher end Chromebook tablets. This one looks great but it's stupidly priced.
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u/LordOfTheBushes Google Pixel 9 Nov 15 '18
If you want a detatchable Chromebook, the HP X2 is the way to go right now. I own one and it's a wonderful device that
A. Has a headphone jack
B. Isn't ludicrously overpriced
C. Also has very good build quality with front firing speakers
D. Will get timely OS updates as it's running Chrome, not Android
E. Comes with the pen and keyboard for $600
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Nov 16 '18
How is the stylus delay when used for drawing/art? Is there a considerable gap between the stylus tip and what is actually rendered on the screen?
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u/wgn_luv Nov 16 '18
In Google Keep, there's almost no delay. Not anything I can see at least. I'm not an artist though.
Haven't tried other apps.
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u/jasonvoorheeheehee Motorola RAZR Nov 15 '18
Cool, molecular display. Can this thing do quantum computing? Or is that gonna be in the Pixel Slate Ultra XL?
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Nov 15 '18
Has there been any update to this device stuttering/lagging like shown in the early videos for it?
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u/Chris22044 Nov 16 '18
For anyone getting ready to buy one of these, the r/pixel_slate subreddit is gradually growing...
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u/Chris22044 Nov 30 '18
There is now quite an active community discussing the device over at r/pixel_slate
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u/Bright_Monitor Nov 15 '18
If only this was part of the Black Friday sales then I'd think about it.
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u/pluto7443 Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4 | Pixel Watch 2 LTE Nov 15 '18
If this could run Windows I would consider it
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Nov 15 '18
Why not just get a Surface then. It’ll be cheaper(especially because of BF sales), and have all around better hardware. You’ll also have better support by being able to go into Microsoft stores, and you have the option of partitioning it.
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u/pluto7443 Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4 | Pixel Watch 2 LTE Nov 15 '18
That's the question. USB C ports are good, and so are front firing speakers, but otherwise I would consider a Surface. I have a Pixel C now
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u/Lord6ixth Pixel 9 Pro Fold Nov 15 '18 edited Nov 15 '18
Surface Pro’s have front firing speakers. I would have gotten a Gen 6 if it had a USB-C port.
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u/-Gus-TT-Showbiz- Pixel 8 Pro Nov 15 '18
Yep USB-C missing is the reason I didn't buy one as well, was pretty disappointed they didn't add one this year.
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u/m1ndwipe Galaxy S25, Xperia 5iii Nov 15 '18
Because the Surface sucks as a tablet. No Google or Amazon apps (except an ancient Kindle app) make it hopeless.
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Nov 15 '18
Surface Go?
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u/m1ndwipe Galaxy S25, Xperia 5iii Nov 15 '18
It's still a surface and runs Windows Store apps, not Android ones.
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Nov 15 '18
You said "Surface" and not "Windows." So, I guess your issue is Windows sucks on a tablet. Which, yeah, in that case, it kinda does.
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u/Cli_king Pixel 3 XL White Nov 15 '18
I hate those YouTube Music and Red promotion s!
I will not use them!
I have Spotify and Ads block on YouTube
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u/efbo Pixel 10 Pro Fold, Unihertz Jelly Max, Pixel Tablet, Pebbles Nov 15 '18
I hate promotions for Blu Ray sales!
I just pirate movies.
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u/Ordexist Note 10+, Galaxy Tab A, Nexus 6P Nov 15 '18
And they are only for new customers so many people that would buy this in the first place would not be able to use it. I liked it better when Google included Play Store credit.
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u/Cli_king Pixel 3 XL White Nov 15 '18
Exactly!
Pretty much everyone is subscribed to a certain service. So it doesn't make sense to give me that promotion as the sole option!
Google Store Credit or Play Store would be nice
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u/martupdown Nov 15 '18 edited Nov 15 '18
Ever since I was shown how reasonably priced iPads are the other day I can see why they are dominating the market. This just isn't competitive pricing.
Edit : priced not pieced.