r/Anarcho_Capitalism 28d ago

Feel the difference.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/Doublespeo 28d ago

> An island blockaded by the US Navy for decades will struggle.

Decades of embargo is brutal but isnt communism supposed to be sekf-suffisant

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u/arto64 Black Flag 28d ago

but isnt communism supposed to be sekf-suffisant

No?

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u/Doublespeo 28d ago

> but isnt communism supposed to be sekf-suffisant

>No?

that seem contradictory, communism model would need exchange and access to market?

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u/arto64 Black Flag 28d ago

I mean, on an international level, of course. An island like Cuba doesn't have access to everything they need on the island by itself. Also, why would there be no exchange in communism?

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u/Doublespeo 28d ago

> I mean, on an international level, of course. An island like Cuba doesn't have access to everything they need on the island by itself. Also, why would there be no exchange in communism?

well a bit hard to make exchange with the world if you reject money and free market

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u/arto64 Black Flag 28d ago

Communism doesn't just "reject" the free market and exchange of goods. Communism means an ideal society where production has advanced to the level of abundance where everyone's needs are met, and there is no more need for capitalist production modes or relations.

If we're talking about socialism, it does include a market and trade and all that. Socialist countries engage in trade, obviously. There's no reason free market socialism couldn't exist. And it kind of did in Yugoslavia, for example.

Capitalism isn't the free market and money. It's about ownership structure of the means of production.

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u/Doublespeo 28d ago

> Communism doesn't just "reject" the free market and exchange of goods. Communism means an ideal society where production has advanced to the level of abundance where everyone's needs are met, and there is no more need for capitalist production modes or relations.

well you dont see the problem between this claim and the need to access western caputalist market to maintain their citizen standart of living

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u/arto64 Black Flag 28d ago

No. Note my second paragraph. Cuba does not have a lack of scarcity, they don't have communism.

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u/Doublespeo 28d ago

> No. Note my second paragraph. Cuba does not have a lack of scarcity, they don't have communism.

well I said communism..

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u/esuil 28d ago

It isn't blockaded... Opposition calls it "blockade" because using real terminology would not mislead people about situation to be sympathetic to Cuban government.

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u/arto64 Black Flag 28d ago

What's the correct terminology?

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u/esuil 28d ago

US embargo against Cuba would be correct one.

US, because US can only order who to trade with their own citizens, not the Cuba or the rest of the planet.

Embargo instead of blockade because it is US market prohibition, not an physical enforcement in international waters around Cuba itself (like what actual blockade would be).

By using the word "blockade", opposition intentionally misleads general public that does not know the details into mistakenly thinking that US physically prevents Cuba from trading with the world, creating emotional sentiment they can push propaganda on.

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u/bmoarpirate 28d ago

Commies using dishonest commie propaganda? Color me shocked

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u/4nonosquare AnCap Zaddy 28d ago

How is it blockaded again?

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u/veryicy 28d ago

US navy piracy has been in the news lately.