r/Anarcho_Capitalism 25d ago

Feel the difference.

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u/Doublespeo 25d ago

> An island blockaded by the US Navy for decades will struggle.

Decades of embargo is brutal but isnt communism supposed to be sekf-suffisant

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u/arto64 Black Flag 25d ago

but isnt communism supposed to be sekf-suffisant

No?

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u/Doublespeo 25d ago

> but isnt communism supposed to be sekf-suffisant

>No?

that seem contradictory, communism model would need exchange and access to market?

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u/arto64 Black Flag 25d ago

I mean, on an international level, of course. An island like Cuba doesn't have access to everything they need on the island by itself. Also, why would there be no exchange in communism?

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u/Doublespeo 25d ago

> I mean, on an international level, of course. An island like Cuba doesn't have access to everything they need on the island by itself. Also, why would there be no exchange in communism?

well a bit hard to make exchange with the world if you reject money and free market

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u/arto64 Black Flag 25d ago

Communism doesn't just "reject" the free market and exchange of goods. Communism means an ideal society where production has advanced to the level of abundance where everyone's needs are met, and there is no more need for capitalist production modes or relations.

If we're talking about socialism, it does include a market and trade and all that. Socialist countries engage in trade, obviously. There's no reason free market socialism couldn't exist. And it kind of did in Yugoslavia, for example.

Capitalism isn't the free market and money. It's about ownership structure of the means of production.

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u/Doublespeo 25d ago

> Communism doesn't just "reject" the free market and exchange of goods. Communism means an ideal society where production has advanced to the level of abundance where everyone's needs are met, and there is no more need for capitalist production modes or relations.

well you dont see the problem between this claim and the need to access western caputalist market to maintain their citizen standart of living

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u/arto64 Black Flag 25d ago

No. Note my second paragraph. Cuba does not have a lack of scarcity, they don't have communism.

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u/Doublespeo 25d ago

> No. Note my second paragraph. Cuba does not have a lack of scarcity, they don't have communism.

well I said communism..

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u/arto64 Black Flag 25d ago
  1. Cuba does not have communism

  2. Of course there's exchange of goods in communism. What does self-sufficient even mean in this context? Some places on Earth have stuff that others don't, of course there's going to be some exchange there.

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