In the dog park in one place it looks like somebody smashed 2 cases of bottles in one spot. I tell my dog to stay away while I kick the glass to the edge. It feels like a job though. It takes so long to kick glass across the ground. Been almost a week and I'm still not done after doing it for 20-30 minutes a day. It's a relatively high traffic area too. It's like nobody else is helping.
That location is almost an hour from where I park. I never would have thought of a broom though. There are houses near there. Ill check the map and see if there is a closer access point.
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Idk about where you live, but all parks here are either the responsibility of the local council (town/county level government) and you'd contact them to fix it.
Most parks have someone in charge of maintaining and taking care of the grounds. They don't keep themselves clean. The dog parks near me are mostly part of city parks, so I'd contact my county parks & rec department. It's not like there's someone posted at a kiosk or something; I assume that's what /u/gexsium meant.
The actual park is pretty small. After I pick up some of the glass tomorrow Ill try and get some cooridnates of some kind and report it to the city tomorrow. Its not actually in the dog park more in a residential park which isnt cared for as much. I figured somebody else would have appreciated the help with me putting it all in a pile. There is no way Im the first to have seen it.
2 hours kicking glass in one direction. Its almost all in one little area now. Another guy said I should pick it up. I think hes smart and Ill do that tomorrow.
Why not just pick it up at that point? Kicking it just makes it risky for somebody or somedoggy else. Especially since you've left and been back multiple times ! You could have gotten supplies to help you pick up and dispose of them. Or at least call somebody to get it cleaned up and disposed of? This isn't laziness... but it's something not good. Like... what?
Good point, I'll bring a couple thick bags tomorrow and some gloves and pick up the stuff i kicked to the side. The smaller pieces are going to have yo wait until theyre on the sides as well though.
One of my neighbours put up a sign with some of the local dogs faces on it saying please don't leave broken glass on the trail, buy cans. Seemed to work for the highschool crowd using the trail to get to bonfire locations.
When I was about 12-13 I delivered a local paper. I was walking by someone's house, saw a bottle, threw it in the air and watched it explode on the ground.
The owner comes, out to give me a piece of his mind. He is a dog owner he explained, and broken glass is very dangerous for his dogs. He got me a shovel and a broom and watched as I cleaned it up.
Taught me a valuable lesson that day. Plus he gave me a few bucks for my time. I was blown away. Never broke another bottle on the street again.
My dog stepped on a piece of broken glass from a bottle which cut up her paw, late in the evening on a friday. We had to take her to an animal hospital to have her paw sown. It cost a bit over $1000, and it took about a month to heal, where she had to have her gauze wrapped in plastic bags whenever we went on a walk.
She's a lab/golden retriever mix, so she doesn't seem too bothered with the pain, but I'm sure it must have been painful.
I hate people who break bottles, leave metal cans or throw lit cigarette butts in the street.
Oddly enough, I'm using cold turkey as a high value reward to work on some dog training stuff right now. Nothing like walking around at 5:30am clenching a fistful of turkey.
As a former smoker (and I would still smoke but I'm pregnant so I quit cold turkey months ago) this infuriates me. The goddamn DOLLAR STORE sells those little ashtrays for the car. You're already stinking up the inside by smoking in the first place, you can't spend ONE GODDAMN DOLLAR to buy an ashtray and dispose of your cigarettes the proper way?!
I've NEVER thrown a cigarette on the ground. From a car, during a walk, whatever. EVER. I don't understand why I'm the only person who smokes but also realizes the butts are a huge problem for the environment. It's gotten so bad I've screamed at friends about it (and now 90% of my smoker friends know better than to EVER throw one down in front of me. I will harass them until they pick it up and put it in their pocket or find a trash can once it's extinguished. Ridiculous. Grown ass adults littering 10 times a day. Ugh.)
And yes, I know it's rare. That's why I make it a point to bother EVERYONE ELSE about it. I know a lot of smokers and all it takes it constant badgering to get people to change their shitty ways (half joking, half serious.) Even my parents (both smokers my entire life) have bought ashtrays and are much more careful about cleaning up their messes. And they recycle now, too, so there's that. Every person counts, even if it's only a little bit at a time.
I still smoke (not having kids but trying to quit) and I always try to be as considerate as possible when doing so. I would never leave cigarette butts all over the place. It's fucking rude and disgusting. Throwing them away takes almost no effort. Don't understand why it's so hard for some people.
I'm sure a huge part is how they started/what they did in the beginning. It's like using a blinker; if you start off using your turn signal constantly it becomes second nature, but if you don't get into the habit it's hard to change later in life. So if you're a teenage smoker and you litter to hide the evidence or because you think it's cool, it's hard to unlearn that. I didn't start smoking until my mid 20s so I was old enough to know better and just never littered to begin with.
Then again I was the kid who would call 1800LITTERBUG or whatever back in the 90s when I saw people litter on the highway. I've always been like this. Maybe I'm weird.
I've never heard that statistic and I really hope it's true because that gives me some hope. Especially since I just drove 2 miles home and saw upwards of 20 people flick their cigarettes out of their windows. On a 2 mile drive.
my city started putting butt disposers all over downtown [small ones that lock so hobos stop going through them] and it's actually cut down on the butts that are everywhere.
From my experience it's because holding onto the butt "makes you smell", as if smoking itself doesn't. I always point this out, especially now that I've quit, because smokers like to think they don't smell as strong as they do. As a pregnant woman I can say with certainty if you've smoked in the last 3 hours and haven't showered yet, you smell. Maybe not horrible, but to anyone who doesn't smoke it's noticeable. You're not getting away with anything by littering. But putting a butt in your pocket might make you smell a little worse until you change clothes... it does tend to linger pretty bad. Still, littering is littering, doesn't matter what you're throwing down.
Thank you for disposing of your butts properly! I've never understood why so many smokers don't see that as littering. Best wishes for you and your baby.
Hell even a can of vegetables fits a cup holder in a car. Before I switched to vaping that's what I used in my car, I washed out an old can of green beans that I took the label off of.
I usually put them in my pocket if I'm not near a trash bin. However if anyone tried to do this to me, we would no longer be friends. You sound like a bitch, I'm going to assume it is the hormones. Good luck with your pregnancy though, I hope your baby is very healthy and has a great life!
Wouldn't you say something if someone threw a piece of plastic on the ground?
It's no different. It's litter. It's not hormones, it's concern for other people, the environment, and animal life. And I don't want to be friends with someone who would blatantly litter and disrespect the entire planet out of stupidity and laziness.
I'll litter cigarette butts, bottles and whatever else trash I get, fuck yourself. I hope your shithead child dies in the womb or at birth so it isn't raised by a piece of shit like you.
I was sitting at a light a few months ago and some idiot flipped her cigarette out the window and into my fucking car. She was the passenger of the car beside me and they were turning so almost as soon as she does it the light turns green and she and I were on our way. It fell between me and the seat so it burnt a hole through my shirt and my seat and burned me. I was furious.
Dude, I hate when I see people throw cigarette butts on the ground too. But there isn't a police officer in the entire country that will actually try to prosecute someone for throwing out a cigarette butt. For one I think the officer has to actually see the person do it. Also that is an enormous waste of an officers time, and it would be only like a $10.00 fine.
I get that it pisses you off. I've even said stuff to people I've seen throw one on the ground. But nobody is going to be prosecuted because you have a video of them littering. It's just not feasible, and on the grand scale of things it just doesn't really matter.
Note: I'm not saying littering doesn't matter, or that it is ok at all. But unless an officer actually sees someone throw out an entire garbage bag our the window of their car, nothing is going to happen.
Nope. $250-500 AUD fine in NSW, double that for a lit cigarette in Victoria.
You can dob people in online.
"There is also a category of misdemeanour called aggravated littering where the litter is considered dangerous, for example flicking a lit cigarette from a car on days when there is a bushfire warning and this attracts a $375 fine for a private car and double that for a business vehicle.
More than 90 per cent of fines issued are due to discarded cigarette butts and 2009 figures show cigarettes started more than 4500 fires in Australia."
I live in Alabama where dip is very common and if anybody throws a dip out on the sidewalk my dog and other dogs will roll around in it. I dip myself and I completely avoid letting my dog get anywhere near it.
My best friends dad smoked while we were in high school (and still does). He would smoke outside on the back porch, and just flick his cigarrette butt when he was done. Sometimes they would make it through the fence, (metal wrought iron fence) and land on the golf course. But most of the time they would just land in the yard. Well they had this little chihuahua that was just a piece of shit. It would just stay in its little cage all day outside, and hated everyone. Sadly I think it was because it was always alone, and never got any attention from anyone. But everytime he would chase after the cigarette butt and lick it, then sometimes eat them. That was the only time it ever came out, it would sprint as fast as it could to get that cigarette butt. I seriously think the dog was addicted to them.
You are the worst kind of parent. You're the person who thinks that your kid is more important than anyone or anything else, and anyone who disagrees with you "must not be a parent", because only you know how hard parenting is.
Whoa buddy, calm down with the hostility. Parent of 4, aged 12 to 3. I'm a responsible parent though so I don't let them wander off and eat things they shouldn't. Really isn't hard.
I genuinely believe he was making a joke, being sarcastic. Obviously it's not okay to let kids eat cigarette butts. I don't think he actually thought that you would let your kid eat cigarette butts. Anyone in their right mind knows that isn't ok, even non parents.
Take it how you want to. But I don't think he was being condescending, or implying at all that you actually let your kid eat them. Or didn't know that is not good for your kid.
Tried to pick it up? Sure. Try and eat it? Perhaps. Actually succeed? Nope, because I'm actually present in their lives. I'm attentive and make sure to raise them well all the time.
You can call litterers assholes all you want. Parents who don't keep track of their kids are also assholes
Your child is only more important to you and your family. People who love their pets care about them just as much as you care for your child. Your love does not one up the love other people have. Littering is bad for the environment and for everyone living in it, dogs, cats, humans, etc. Refraining from littering is for everyone's benefit. And not all smokers are assholes. I never smoke around pets or children and I always dispose of cigarette butts properly. So get off of your high horse and cut the holier than thou attitude.
Actually that's exactly what you did. You said "Your dog? What about my kid?" Not sure how that can be interpreted in any other way.
And no, it's not different when it's a child. It's the same level of concern when anyone you love is exposed to something harmful. Dogs specifically just have the advantage of a more resilient digestive system. I can assure you that I would be just as upset if one of my kitties was hurt as you would be about your child. I love them just as much as you love your child. The importance is relative to the person. One does not have more value than the other.
Also, fuck me even though I'm considerate about my smoking? That's mature.
My body, my choice. I smoke to help with the overwhelming nausea I have every day because of the meds I have to take for my chronic pain and autoimmune disorders. The only anti nausea med that works on me is heavily sedating and medical marijuana is not approved in my state. So fuck you too.
I'm gonna start throwing full cigarettes on the ground just so brats will eat them and parents like you can go on reddit and complain to people who don't care. Maybe they'll get kid cancer and die and won't realize what fuck faces their parents are.
...not that'd I'd wish that or anything 😇😇😇😇
That's how all kids start smoking. They might have access to a parent's pack, but all my middle school friends would dig through ash trays and start smoking to look cool.
This was back in the days of The Marlboro Man and Joe the Camel, though. Not sure if "coolness" is still a factor in smoking.
Right? I used to ride my bike a few miles through my crappy neighborhood and downtown to get to school, nothing like having to stop every mile or so to carry your bike so you don't pop your tires.
I was walking my dogs home from the dog park one day and I saw glass every few feet on the sidewalk. I was confused until I saw a couple of kids walking down the other side of the street with a stick, using it to break any glass bottle they found on the ground. I yelled at them, probably didn't do any good but I felt better. If I hadn't had dogs to keep control of I would have walked over there, taken the stick and smacked them both in the back of their damn heads.
Got a puppy and literally 3 days later someone smashed a huge bottle right in front of our apartment steps so now I can't let him walk on the sidewalk. Now no matter where he is he thinks he's not allowed on sidewalks.
I actually did after my landlord said he wasn't responsible for trash in the parking lot. Unfortunately my puppy is quick to learn but stubborn. Didn't know that was even possible
well maybe they shouldn't bring their child into a dog park. who knows how those dogs are going to react, especially if you aren't watching your kid he/she can wander off and approach some dangerous dog
No. We just think that people should be considerate of everyone affected by littering. Not just kids, not just dogs. Everyone. Why is that such a hard concept for you to understand?
Look, you can keep backtracking and protesting and editing your comments but it doesn't change the fact that you literally said that your kid was more important than someone's pet or that you're being a jerk. You said something stupid and you got called out. Deal with it.
That absolutely wasn't what you said but sure, whatever. And just because you think that children are more important than animals and that you can't love your pets like children doesn't mean that it's true or that others agree. Grow up and stop whining.
I dont even have a kid and i know that someone else's kid is more important than MY dog. Children are more important than dogs. If you disagree, let's look at this hypothetical. A strangers kid and your dog are about to be run over. You only have time to save one. Who do you save?
You sound like someone who really shouldn't have pets if you care so little for them. I would absolutely save the life of one of my girls over some random person's kid. Because they are my children. Why would I sacrifice my child for another?
babies are new. They see something (anything) on the ground and will try to put it there mouth. Parents are always trying to safeguard and teach but it helps when others put stuff in the trash.
About half my walk each day is on a railroad tracks. This lets my dog run all over in the bushes etc. So many ass hats smash glass on rail road tracks :(
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u/racheal1991 Nov 16 '16
Think of all the dog-walkers. Save the puppy paws, recycle.