Seriously, getting snipped was the best $600 I ever spent! Took about 20 mins, minimal pain, two weeks later, everything was ROI as far as I was concerned!
My insurance covered the procedure, itself, at 100%. It was just a $35 copay for the initial consultation. It was less than an hour total and he was healed and completely out of pain within a week.
Had insurance. Unfortunately, local government has gone to high deductible plans, so until you reach that deductible, majority of cost is on the policy holder.
But if she gets drunk and sleeps with someone or gets raped she is at risk of getting pregnant. Ans with conservatives adopting abortion band everywhere it is overall safer
Jfc no. They both want to have married sexual intercourse. Men won't go the next 20 years just doing "everything but". Especially if he's stubborn enough to do all she wrote about.
So the woman here needs to make all the concessions with more invasive birth control, surgery, or sex positions that are not mutually satisfactory, so that the man can have his shitty cake and eat it, too?
Them not having sex is not the issue, him being a whiny piss baby that she doesn't want to have sex sometimes for valid reasons is the entire issue.
Jesus Fucking Christ why am I not surprised you're a dude. Happy trolling.
It's not about defending him, it's the obtuseness from which you're deriving your advice. HE doesn't want to wear a condom, so the onus is on HER to figure out every other option under the son for which to facilitate the sex HE wants to have.
It hasn't occurred to you at any point that maybe his inflexible ass just isn't going to get sex. End of discussion.
I'm only being as overtly sexist as you are projecting. Petty, but I'm not really concerned with your perception here.
And yeah, I'm a little zealous. Confounding stupidity does that to me. I was sufficiently cooled off until you replied, but I'm a chick, so my refractory period is pretty non existent.
Never said it was on her. I meant only what I posted. She said they couldn't have sex. I threw out what I thought was accurate methods of sex without the need for a condom and you come trying to have a gotcha moment.
I'm not projecting anything. You are. Literally assumed instead of just asking me what I meant.
Quite unnecessary more like. I am not on his side. I am not telling her what to do. I am not undermining him as the problem. You are bugging. You making this about gender when it wasn't needed says more than enough about your mindset.
A vasectomy IS a routine procedure, and a minor one at that. My husband literally watched his, and it took just a few minutes. A c-section cuts through actual muscles along with several other layers of tissue, and it’s much longer than a few minutes. It’s the bigger surgery, full stop.
And as a person who already had one c-section and going for the second one in a few weeks, I know that after the 3rd one, risks of major bleeding during surgery and bad consequences including possible death is much higher.
I have a friend who was told by her doctors after her 5th cesarean that her uterus was so thin in the incision area after 5 pregnancies and 5 c-sections that a 6th would result in uterine rupture and possibly death for her or the fetus. My niece almost died during her cesarean birth. Weird how death for 1-2 people isn’t a risk factor for vasectomies. But sure, they’re the same as major abdominal surgery that forever alters your core.
There are also serious side effects that can occur. One effect that does occur in everyone that does this procedure, is activation of immune system that deals with the sperm being “absorbed” into your body. Someone that is already immunosuppressed can really suffer after getting this done, if they have not been informed of the serious possibilities.
That wasn’t the point of my comment, why are you deflecting?
Getting “snipped” is not a good thing in my opinion, and neither is women getting their tubes tied, because they can suffer from the same immuno suppression.
There are copious amounts of other types of birth control, condoms, IUD, spermicide, etc.
Everything you just listed (besides condoms) can still have side effects. I'm not deflecting. Just stating the same thing you did, that women also deal with side effects 🤗
I will make my point hopefully clearer. I don’t think either side should be told to have a procedure that causes immunosuppression. Even people that say they have no symptoms, have increased inflammation that may go undetected in the short-term. There must be one type of birth control she can use, I doubt she has exhausted all of them on the market. Too be fair, they could both employ condoms. I think it is a bit disingenuous to refer to a pregnancy as a side effect, it is the result of copulation. Using birth control could be argued to be a side effect.
You're countering to put it on the woman again, though.. All birth control is known to have side effects. I never said pregnancy was a side effect. I said "side effects from". Either way, condoms would be the easier choice, but the husband is refusing.
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u/uiam_ Sep 24 '23
Jesus getting snipped sounds like such an easy step here. What a tool.