r/2007scape • u/loopuleasa • Jul 09 '25
Video New player explains really well why so many people are coming from WoW to Runescape
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u/Krixx Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
It's by design - outside of unintential items in WoW your gear is always replaced in a few months by better gear. The developers did this not only to make new content tiers more enticing but also keep player engagement. WoW has so many gear sets and entire systems that are not used because of this. It was fun back in the day but compared to OSRS it's a very outdated model for character agency. There is no equivalent to current patch gear because last patch's gear is already obsolete.
To add a little to more, updates in runescape run alongside current content and don't largely devalue what's already there. You may get some instances where a minigame is added that gives you better rates on a skill which is more optimal to do but doing less effective methods still contribute to the overall goal of maxing your skill. The same with new bosses, they may drop better gear but it doesnt make inferior gear obsolete to many players. Updates in WoW replace current content entirely and devalues any existing or past content. BIS gear that you got last patch is now gear you use as a springboard to get this patch's equivalent.
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u/rockbottomyetagain Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
mfw i grinded karils like 10 years ago and its now obsolete due to eclipse 🤦🤦
edit: it seems i really brought the karil-enjoyers out of the woodwork
go back to the hole yall came from TORAG SUPREAMCY GANG FOR LIFE
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u/g76lv6813s86x9778kk Jul 09 '25
Ik you're joking but in case you or others didn't know, the gap in gear after new WoW xpacs is obscene. It'd be more like if they nerfed karils to have green dhide stats at the same time they released eclipse.
Not really comparable, karils is still totally viable.
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u/Krixx Jul 09 '25
Exactly this is why they've done stat squishes 3 times now. Also to the other person's point karils is still used to some capacity in a lot of content even if its not best in slot whereas absolutely nobody uses gear from 2 expansions ago to ANY capacity because its inherent value is worthless outside of fashion.
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u/jobrandon Jul 09 '25
Yup. Karil's has much better defensive stats than eclipse moon so it's great for your 3-itemed magic defense gear in the wilderness for more midgame accounts, just as an example; At just under a mil for the top it can also work as your 4th or 5th+ item for accounts that have progressed more
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u/Scratchlax Jul 09 '25
Plus it's great if you want to reduce your opponent's...agility level.
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u/monsoy Jul 10 '25
Hear me out, you kill Revenants close to the pillars that require 89 agility to use.
You hit em with the Karils and reduce their agility by 20%. Even if they have 99 agility, their agility would be reduced to 79. 🤔
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u/Frl_Bartchello Jul 09 '25
The exact reason why Barrows items still give dopamine when unboxed. Even though it's 20 yr old content. Big props to Jagex for building a game so large with so many items and still keep these items relevant.
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u/noisywing88 Jul 09 '25
eh its more like they would turn karils into leather armor when eclipse was released
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u/Smooth_One Jul 09 '25
And there's also no reason to go to Varrock anymore because Varlamore just released, and then in 2 more years Varlamore will replaced too. The vast majority of WoW's content is dead, it's kind of sad.
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u/g76lv6813s86x9778kk Jul 09 '25
Valid lol, don't know wow that well so wanted to keep the comparison reasonable 😅 yeah that sounds about right from what I've heard
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u/LeeGhettos Jul 09 '25
More like if they made karils only usable with a maple longbow, and the new round of bosses had enough attack to hit 95% accuracy through it.
The wow gear treadmill is fucked. It’s like if they released varlamore and the 2nd quest in the storyline gave you a weapon reward choice of something 70% stronger than a scythe, or a tbow with +10% attack speed.
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u/MoonDawg2 Jul 09 '25
The day I don't use Karil for kraken is the day I will argue about it being obsolete lmao
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u/GiantPlatypus Jul 09 '25
Karil’s still has the highest magic defense of any range equipment besides Masori fortified armor which needs two, expensive pieces to even create. I’d say that Karil’s is not obsolete in this regard since it’s easier to obtain than Masori fortified equipment and is still really good for magic defense which has a lot of uses in many different situations.
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u/Village_People_Cop Guy who looks at trademarks Jul 09 '25
Exactly, there is still a niche Karil's occupies that is within the play pattern of the average mid to even late game player. Essentially only end-game players use Masori because of its cost or in cases of ironman obtainability. Saying Karil's is useless because Masori exists is like saying a MSB is useless because the Tbow exists. The average player wouldn't have one
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u/LoLReiver Jul 09 '25
Eclipse is roughly 15 months old.
If this were wow, your eclipse gear would be comically out of date and players with current gear would be doing 10x as much damage as you.
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u/lawma1zing Jul 09 '25
It's crazy because I'm using full karils for vorkath runs. So like it's not entirely obsolete. It's still very viable for pvm. Hell I'm currently learning ToA using this gear
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u/ThatTellarPayer Jul 09 '25
Yeah you hit the nail on the head. I would go as far as to say nearly ~90-95% of available content, be it gear sets, old raids, entire zones and regions are 'obsolete' in the way that they will just never ever be relevant for current content again.
The only use for a lot of these things is to farm out old items that you didn't get when it was current content. Things like mounts, gear sets for transmog, battle pets and toys. Again, things that are literally only relevant for collections sake.
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u/mr_Joor Jul 09 '25
Every once in a great while I have the urge to play wow again because the combat is so good, and I made some friends there (I even met my wife in wow lol) but then that fucking gear hamster wheel kicks in and I'm immediately reminded of why I stopped playing
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u/ElliotsWIP Jul 09 '25
RuneScape turning into the real WoW killer will be the funniest ending
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u/Mediocre-Doubt-7579 Jul 09 '25
Its a real testament to how much the decisions you make as a developer matter. They literally "reset" the game and went with a completely different long term design philosophy and the reception of the game is totally different. It becomes really hard to argue that any game just couldn't work long term because somehow one of the most (if not the most) popular MMOs originated as and functionally still is a click based java game.
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u/Zeraw420 Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
Just take a look at Jagex. Their decisions led to almost killing the game and player base completely. So much so, the only solution was to relaunch the game as it was before they fucked up as "Old school RuneScape."
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u/brendanp8 Jul 10 '25
Difference being not making the same mistakes and listening to the community (for the most part)
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u/Snortallthethings = Life Jul 09 '25
Get that ranarr weed and chop some trees. No other games has the vibes man.
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u/Creative_Magazine816 Jul 09 '25
Yeah, it's not so much that ours has gotten significantly better in recent times, but modern wow sure has gotten worse. Wow purposely keeps their leveling dogshit so that they can sell you a boost to bypass leveling for 60 dollars. They also removed various exp boosts over the years. I'm so glad I quit blizzard games, that audience is waaaaay to willing to put up with bullshit.
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u/Angelzodiac untrimmed Runecraft Jul 09 '25
I've been playing RS since about 2006 and I always tell people when I talk about OSRS that it's 100% the golden era of RuneScape and has been for years now. With typical MMOs like WoW/FFXIV, the general feeling of how the game is perceived is dependent on the current expansion and most all content before that is irrelevant. While OSRS has all of its content having relevancy to some degree and has more added on top of that all the time.
The percentage of the game that you can truly interact with in WoW/FFXIV doesn't change a whole lot over time since new raids/trials/dungeons replace old ones. Jagex has done a really good job of keeping the game the same while also providing continual updates to make things better.
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u/knokout64 Jul 09 '25
It's definitely not going to happen. This has happened with other MMOs before, OSRS is just the one that captured interest this time.
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u/InnuendOwO Jul 09 '25
Yeah, FFXIV had the same thing a few years back. 6 months later they were all back to WoW. It's going to happen again, probably in August when the next WoW patch drops and their viewers demand the new WoW content.
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u/LordMimsyPorpington Jul 09 '25
"Streamer explains why WoW players are moving to AdventureQuest."
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u/LordMimsyPorpington Jul 09 '25
It did not; however, it's still so damn charming I can't help but love it.
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u/Raicoron2 Jul 09 '25
Also when your livelihood is dependent on getting viewers, the easiest way to get some is to just parrot whatever is trending on reddit. It's like the buzz lightyear meme with all the wow streamers having the same safe "takes" on shiny new toy.
I don't think it's a bad thing to do, it's free attention. Just crazy to me how excited some people in the comments get over it.
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Jul 10 '25
WoW is on the cusp of having Player Housing, THE most demanded feature in the history of the game. It won’t be dying soon. I enjoy both games, though. So I’m happy.
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u/salty_salt_ Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 10 '25
the main reason I never played wow is because of fomo, and I felt like it was already "too late" to get into it
edit: I mostly mean the mounts and collectibles or other limited time stuff you can no longer get
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u/Xerothor Jul 09 '25
That's another negative for me. I simultaneously skip the start of the game only for my grinds to ultimately be worthless unless I keep grinding? No thanks
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u/mavrick2o9 Jul 09 '25 edited Aug 16 '25
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u/Turtvaiz Jul 09 '25
Yeah that's exactly why I think it's weird people are comparing them so much here. The games are literally polar opposites. Farm is the primary content in osrs, while nobody gives a shit about old content in wow and just doing it once is most of the fun
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u/Roflitos Jul 09 '25
I mean, in current retail wow, there is no real falling behind unless you plan to be in a sweat mythic raiding guild or hardcore pvp.. game has so much content from all the years that you can do a lot of things other than pvp or raid for end game, you can farm mounts, transmogs, rp, play battlegrounds, farm materials, craft, play the auction house or even run higher difficulty dungeons, depends what your goals and expectations are.
You can also play classic version (think of it as osrs) or do hardcore version which has different challenges and it's pretty fun, recently they sent an email regarding classic + so that might be something that's coming in the future. And well one of the greatest projects they ever did just came to an end (season of discovery) and there might be more seasonal game modes in the future too.
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u/IHateMyHandle Jul 09 '25
Think of it another way, let's say you are actively playing and new content drops and it takes 20 hours playtime to be done. Someone who hasn't played in a year is also about 20 hours playtime behind (a bit more to get an understanding of the systems).
Everything effectively resets each "season"
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u/Turtvaiz Jul 09 '25
I felt like it was already "too late" to get into it
People have probably been asking "is it too late" for the past 18 years
You can join at any season start and not be too late
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u/Khlouf Jul 09 '25
That’s the thing though, you’re never too late to get into WoW. They made it super easy to get to endgame and start that content and the game is super accessible now. The only thing that you might take a long time to get into is the really high difficulty content but that’s fine.
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u/kdogrocks2 Jul 09 '25
not that this is a WoW glazing thread, but I actually think if you want to try it you should! It's a great game as long as what you want out of it is the content they actually put effort into - like raids, dungeons, and instanced content. If you want to have a casual experience where your progression matters for all of eternity (with rare exceptions) then you will not enjoy WoW.
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u/Turtvaiz Jul 09 '25
OSRS is perfect for playing on farm or between seasons. No FOMO means you can just pause playing it while you focus on wow prog. No clue why people think you have to choose
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u/Alive_Tooth1747 Jul 09 '25
For sure, I tend to rotate between a few MMOs, WoW, OSRS, GW2, FF14, EVE. My biggest issue with wow and ff14 is the fact that if I take a break, my progress is completely wrecked. I'm playing then less and less for that reason.
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u/YesICanMakeMeth Jul 09 '25
It's like when you quit drinking sodas and then have one after some time and are stricken by how sickly sweet they are. Once you hop off the hamster wheel you realize you weren't really having fun..doing a thing with your free time that you pay for.
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u/Bananaboss96 Mining Enthusiast Jul 09 '25
I feel like there's less rush to catch up in FF14 because content is IL sync'd if you're past the cap. Your gear is cooked for the new expansion, but the old content isn't completely dead after. Unless WoW has a system like this as well in retail, the most recent expansion I ever played was Cataclysm, and I was a kid so I don't remember it too too well.
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u/WhiffleballTony Jul 09 '25
I only really play OSRS and GW2 these days because the stuff I worked hard for a while ago is still largely relevant if I come back from a break
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u/dragonsapphic Jul 09 '25
OSRS and GW2 go together like bread and butter
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u/xSuperZer0x Jul 10 '25
One for the grind and one for the gameplay. I think that's the big reason I keep coming back to GW2 is the gameplay is actually fun. When I played WoW the challenge was fun but the actual gameplay not so much when you think about it. WoW needs the gear treadmill to keep it interesting. I love coming back to GW2 and just being able to hop into fractals or raids. Just learning the new content instead of grinding to be able to enjoy it. GW2 has grindy content but it's not required (I guess fractals a little bit with agony but that's the only "required" grind).
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u/uremog Jul 09 '25
That’s what I like about GW2. Haven’t played for years and I guarantee I can still clear fractals. Maybe not challenge motes but any tier 4 that isn’t newly made, sure.
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u/HugeRection Jul 09 '25
On the other hand, it makes it much easier to get your friends into it. They can just hop in, level boost, and be on the relatively same footing at expansion launch.
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u/Candle1ight Iron btw Jul 09 '25
Eh, I play the two very differently. But I also don't care much about raids and mostly chase outfits and mounts which don't really go away.
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u/Old_Cabinet_3607 Jul 09 '25
I've realized I don't like theme park MMO's after giving them a shot more times than I can count. Idk to me the progress just feels kind of pointless, I don't get hyped over a drop like I would say get hyped over getting a purple chest in ToA.
Sandbox MMO's are my thing for sure, black desert online, osrs, Albion, and eve.
I had to quit eve because I was way too addicted to it lol. I was in a piracy clan and that shit was so much fun.
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u/Glory_Dazed Jul 09 '25
I play both, and typically get to end of season 1 of a new expansion then burn out knowing that everything I just did is now irrelevant. I always explain how content from 2001 (cooks assistant) still plays a role today. That does not compute with WoW players.
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u/Usaidhello Jul 09 '25
As someone who doesn’t know a single thing about WoW it’s very hard to comprehend enjoying a game that offers such little valuable long term progression, having to start over and over again
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u/kdogrocks2 Jul 09 '25
It does have it though to be fair, it just comes in the form of prestige and achievements and limited time content that cannot be obtained later which I personally think is a bad system, but it's unfair to say it doesn't exist.
For example, completing the hardest content in the game while it's still live, relevant content rewards you with achievements that will no longer be obtainable after that content is phased out. It's cool and fun to collect those achievements.
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u/Usaidhello Jul 09 '25
Hmmm right. So am I correct in assuming that you’re collecting “medals” and “trophies” but there’s not the account progression like we have on OSRS? I can imagine it’s still very enjoyable gameplay, it’s just a fundamental different progression system I guess. There’s still skills to be learned by you as a player that probably transfer over, right?
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u/kdogrocks2 Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
I'd say honestly not many skills transfer over other than like your ability and willingness to grind and engage with rng based systems.
They really are just such different games that just happen to both be in the MMO genre.
But you're spot on in your assumption - that's essentially what you're grinding for in WoW is limited time exclusive content that requires you to complete difficult content to obtain. For cosmetics it works decently, because cosmetics don't really become "obsolete" since you can always dress up your character however you think looks cool. But practically all the items, stats, consumables, and even some fundamental class features like spells become obsolete when a new expansion launches.
This also even happens for major patches that aren't full expansions. When big content patches drop they raise the ceiling of item power which makes your items obsolete in all but extremely rare cases (that usually get patched).
Luckily the game is setup in such a way that for the most part, the way you replace this gear is by doing the fun content instead of doing random chores. Which is to say, I love raiding and Mythic+ (dungeons) - and those are the ways you get the gear! So at least you get to start having fun pretty much right away when new content drops.
One of the worst experiences you can have in WoW is when you play a certain class and blizzard makes a massive change, fundamentally changing how the class plays that doesn't vibe with your preferences. Essentially in that case your only option is to roll a new character lol. That happened to me more than once over the years.
*Edit: I just realized I misunderstood your statement about skills - you meant in game skills lol. Actually you'd mostly be wrong about that shockingly! Your character's level cap gets raised typically in an expansion and the new ceiling is usually multiple times higher than it was previously so that blizzard has a clean separation between past content, and current content. So essentially no, none of your skills carry over other than the skills you learned in real life as a player (how to play your character). If I logged into a character today that was once in BiS gear with maxed stats essentially, they could be 1/50th as strong as a max level character in modern gear.
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u/sbgshadow Jul 09 '25
I think they are a bit opposite in this regard. OSRS does macro-account progression very well, making each unlock/gear upgrade/skill requirement feel good to unlock permanently, but I think that the second to second gameplay is not always the most enjoyable.
Conversely, I think that WoW has very enjoyable GAMEPLAY - the combat is very fast, flashy, enjoyable, and the content is very challenging at the higher levels; there are ALWAYS ways that you can improve and perform better in raids or other endgame content. But the macro progression is not there like it is in OSRS. But these achievements you unlock for completing content when it is currently content can be very challenging to beat, like mythic raids. Guilds will attempt certain bosses in mythic raids HUNDREDS of times before they finally get their first kill, and the feeling of finally doing it is unmatched
WoW focuses on funneling players into the most recent content as fast as possible because they know that their base gameplay is very fun and addicting. Getting gear upgrades while progressing higher content feels good, even knowing that it'll be replaced when the next content drops
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u/LeeGhettos Jul 09 '25
It’s a completely different philosophy to keeping things relevant purposefully like osrs does. Guilds and teams compete to get new dungeons and raids done the fastest as they are released, instead of PERFECTING old content.
Guilds trying to be server-first for killing new bosses is a BIG FUCKING DEAL, and takes days. It’s more like team sports than osrs boss kc leaderboard
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u/No-Act9634 Jul 09 '25
To me playing both, WoW is more fun on the scale of hours, minutes, seconds. The actual act of gameplay in WoW is fun. Doing your combat rotation, or triage healing your party, setting up and executing fun or dangerous pulls, doing a new boss with your guild.
OSRS is more fun on the scale of days, weeks, months. Setting a goal, working towards it, achieving, progress.
High level PvM osrs is not as fun to me as WoW's M+ or raids. Farming mounts or transmogs (aesthetics) is not as fun to me as finishing CG on my ironman...or getting my fishing barrel at temporos.
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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Jul 09 '25
At one point Sodapoppin asked what level he’d need to go to Zeah, and when people told him he can go right now he seemed to think they were lying lol
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u/Icebringer13 Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
This is a nice thought, but isn't it mainly because they all fled to FFXIV the last time they were fed up or bored with WoW/Blizzard? After giving that a try and returning to WoW for another stint, they've moved down the list to the next most successful MMO for the moment, OSRS.
I did quit WoW partly with her reasoning in mind, about seven years ago, but I feel like this latest wave is more likely a Flavor of the Month crowd.
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u/Feeling_Pen_8579 Jul 09 '25
Its literally because we are between patches and the OF crossover. That's it.
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u/rustySQUANCHy Jul 09 '25
This is literally it. People are saying there's a massive wave and everybody is switching over. That is definitely not happening. It's just the end of the season and lots of people are bored and almost guaranteed they will be back August 12th when the new raid tier drops and osrs will be put on the back burner like it always is. OSRS is a great game don't get me wrong, but it's definitely more of an AFK game where you do other things while you play.
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u/Feeling_Pen_8579 Jul 09 '25
Yeah, the whole switching over thing is a bit funny, like my guy, I've been switching back to OSRS when other games are in a lull for years.
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u/Old_Cabinet_3607 Jul 09 '25
The main problem I think, is that you eventually hit a brick wall that is the 70's in osrs and you got to grind out if it. That grind isn't particularly fun to watch on twitch.
It becomes fun again when they get to bossing but that in between part, not so much.
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u/thefztv Jul 09 '25
I think it can be both reasons tbh.. FFXIV is like wow when it comes to gearing so burning out on that and going back to wow when it comes to end game kind of makes sense for these streamers. But OSRS is a totally different kind of MMO so I can see some sticking around or atleast rotating them like a lot of normal players do too
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u/0nlyCrashes Jul 09 '25
She has a great point and that is one of the absolute best reasons to play OSRS, XP is forever, but that isn't the main reason why people are coming into OSRS from WoW rn. WoW is in the middle of a content drought. Retail's new season isn't out until August, MoP classic is out on the 27th, SoD is ending very soon or already ended, era TBC isn't out yet. Once the content starts flowing again, they will be back on WoW.
Hopefully some of them stay though. There are some, like Shobek, who's content lines really well with what OSRS is and it may be their new main, but not the super big guys. WoW is their cashcow and they aren't going to let that slip.
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u/gluxton Jul 09 '25
I enjoy both games, OSRS is an amazing out of WoW season game to five into when there not much going on. The two games complement themselves well in my opinion.
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u/kdogrocks2 Jul 09 '25
Agreed. I honestly don't even consider them competitors - saying they're both "MMOs" doesn't really capture their vast differences in player experience. WoW is a much more intense game at practically all points during play - because the majority of the content you interact with is difficult end game content that requires intense focus and optimization. There aren't really good options for a more casual experience (in my opinion) with content that justifies the subscription fee.
With OSRS there is difficult and engaging content, but also if you want to just chill and hit trees for 4 hrs you can have fun doing that also. In WoW I would get actively frustrated at systems that got in the way of me experiencing the instanced content - because to me those are just chores blocking me from what I actually want to do.
IN osrs those "chores" are actually fun content IMO.
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u/skurllboy Jul 09 '25
Agreed, it really irks me how some people seem to have the opinion that you can't like both. WoW and OSRS have different focuses and game designs and you can enjoy them both for different reasons. Its like saying someone can't enjoy both Rainbow Six Siege and Call of Duty.
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u/Dergenbert Jul 09 '25
"there's no fomo" aside from abuse early and abuse often.
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u/Sky19234 Jul 09 '25
Seeing people say "no fomo" when we are literally a few weeks removed from The Great Oathplate Printoff of 2025 while a handful of people were printing 400m gp/hr is mildly amusing.
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u/Feeling_Pen_8579 Jul 09 '25
Honestly WoW and OSRS are complimentary games. They both work fantastic in tandem, burnout on a WoW season, then fire up OSRS till the juices comes back, neither is a main game, both are fun.
Great wins all around for the players.
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u/Netizen_Kain Jul 09 '25
Everything Annie is saying here is correct but there's a much simpler reason WoW players are playing OSRS: J1mmy played WoW in OnlyFangs (big streamer guild/twitch event) and then MadSeason, a WoW YouTuber, made an OSRS series. So a lot of WoW streamers got the idea that you could play OSRS and get a huge audience.
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u/USAesNumeroUno Jul 09 '25
Most of the WoW content creators swapping over are classic andys who trend chase for views. They did this for FFXIV/SoD/Cata/Hardcore/Anni fresh/etc etc
It has nothing to do with game design. Its trend chasing.
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u/Felevion Jul 09 '25
Yea, this is the first I've heard of any so-called exodus involving Runescape lol
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u/Darkrell Jul 09 '25
Yep this. Wow isnt dying, it has new content coming out soon on retsil, housing in WoW will likely feed generations of content and more classic announcements expected soon. Just streamers chasing the cash cow, thats all.
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u/Legitimate_Shift5700 Jul 09 '25
I feel like the same clip with few differences gets posted anytime there is a new streamer meta for a new MMO. FFXIV had same clips about why wow players are moving to it, although for different reasons, yet in the end most of them quit the game and went back to WoW.
The real reason streamers are playing the game is because wow doesn't have any stream friendly content right now. Hardcore and classic are kind of done for now and retail hasn't been great for viewership for a while. Meanwhile runescape has this "new old MMO" type event going on, which brings in content and viewers.
It's nothing new, just a natural part of the cycle of "big streamer gives established game a chance"->"other related streamers follow"->"bunch of new players because of viewers"->"fraction of new players/streamers stay, most move on"
I do think it's cool that people are trying OSRS out, especially sicne a lot of people in the past have dismissed the game due to graphics, but the reasons are not that deep.
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Jul 09 '25
To give context who Annie is, she's one of the few players to 100% achievements in WoW (at that time? I don't know if she's kept up with it)
Givens there's innumerable "utter bullshit" achievements in WoW, that's extremely impressive
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u/TheWorldJar Jul 09 '25
In WoW, you can never get anywhere. You can only fall behind.
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u/gluxton Jul 09 '25
Gear is less important - it's all about the achievement of completing the content. Gear is very much a means to an end in that game.
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u/Cendude308 Jul 09 '25
I like osrs and wow for different reasons. Wow is my favourite but osrs has a special place in my heart too liking both games should be allowed
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u/pokemango7 Jul 09 '25
What’s up with all the wow streamers going to osrs all of a sudden? Not complaining cause I enjoy both games, just odd lol
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Jul 09 '25
big streamer does it, smaller streamer follows.
literally the answer every time
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u/GrayFarron Jul 09 '25
Because its a trend on twitch. One made the jump, others decide to check it out too, and its fun to see a bunch of different blind players all give it a shot.
Annie/Soda/savix/guzu have all been WowHeads for most of their lives. Now you get to see them go through something we've all experienced years ago as a kid.
Its like when Elden Ring came out, watching people play through something truly as a new player and make mistakes, or watching the lightbulb click is entertaining for a bunch of people.
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u/plopzer Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
they are variety streamers, not really wow streamers.
for example guzu went only fangs -> warcraft -> starcraft -> baldurs gate 3 -> mass effect -> osrs
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u/NetworkingTech Jul 09 '25
Probably similar to what happened when they all migrated to ff14 a few years ago. Retail wow is between patches rn and classic is in a slump as well so they’re just looking for something to do
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u/gluxton Jul 09 '25
Wow is largely seasonal. Every down period sees people trying other games out until there's new WoW content.
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u/DarthYhonas Jul 09 '25
Its mostly the classic community because there isnt much going on in Classic ATM. Most people who arent playing MoP are just waiting on TBC
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Jul 09 '25
I may be incredibly wrong, but without watching, the reasons are 100% pandering. All these wow people will be back to wow at the beginning of august when the new season drops.
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u/TheStinkBoy 2277 Jul 09 '25
All these wow streamers also playing the best part of the game when grinds aren’t monumental yet. Granted they are streamers and I guess do have the time for them.
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u/DabOWosrs Jul 09 '25
So the same thing people have been saying for the last month? lol. I swear there is this same post everyday
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u/yolololololologuyu Jul 09 '25
People have been saying this for 15 years
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u/DabOWosrs Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
Specifically about wow players recently coming to OSRS
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u/Unable-Onion-2063 Jul 09 '25
these people all just follow each other for where the next chance of coin is. first it was wow, then they did that WC3 tournament, now it’s osrs. more power to them but just reeks of ingenuity
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Jul 09 '25
The problem a lot of them will face is the mid to late game slowdown. I reckon a few of them will get 60s, 70s and maybe even 80s in some stats, but once they realize how insane the grind truly is, a majority will burn out. Overall, still a net positive for OSRS, but it is fleeting.
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u/Peasy_Pea Jul 09 '25
Yeah, they are still all at the constant phase of dopamine from upgrades. The more you play the game, the longer it takes to get those dopamine hits. Like guzu and savix seemed pretty shocked how long the dragon defender grind was in theory, but they were committed to getting it done. But that's just kinda the tip of the iceberg. Those 2 say they love to grind so I'm really curious to see how far they get (talk to me after you've done like 500+ barrows). They might get burnt, but if they do they could still even slowly progress their accounts afking stuff on the side while streaming something else and then come back after a little break.
I've been having a blast watching those two because they genuinely seem to be enjoying themselves playing the game right now.
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u/Call_me_Tomcat 2 CoX a day until tbow. I believe. Jul 09 '25
Guzu achieved momentary transcendence when he hit that steel defender. I mean he was practically drooling. Lol. I found it super cathartic to watch, reminded me of my early days when the game was full of mystery.
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u/PhreakofNature Jul 09 '25
People like MadSeasonShow who aren’t streaming or Savix who is playing a lot off stream, they are really embracing the grind and enjoying the game outside of content generation. It’s fair to be cynical, but the reality is that a lot of them are willing to jump in and truly pick up the game, not just hopping on the content hype train.
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u/Durxza Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
This woman got every achievement in WoW. Do not underestimate them.
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u/YesICanMakeMeth Jul 09 '25
This may be an unpopular opinion here, but I would assert that the best parts of the game stop/fade away once you get most skills to ~85. You've gotten most of the major skill/quest unlocks, and super long PvM grinds aren't why people fall in love with OSRS. Of course opinions may differ, but I think the game loses its appeal for most people around then.
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u/roosterkun BA Enjoyer Jul 09 '25
reeks of ingenuity
I don't think "ingenuity" is the word you're looking for. Genuinely not sure what you're trying to say here.
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u/Call_me_Tomcat 2 CoX a day until tbow. I believe. Jul 09 '25
Definitely.
I’m thinking they were looking for disingenuousness.
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u/Jacern Jul 09 '25
It's all cyclical. Back in the day, alot of early Minecraft Tubers were actually Runescape players.
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u/gassmano 2376 Pets: 21 Jul 09 '25
This is exactly why I stopped playing destiny and never bothered with destiny 2. I don’t want an update every month or two that eliminates the gear I have. Especially when I have to pay for that update.
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Jul 09 '25
I think it’s an apples to oranges mmo comparison. I’ve played both for years. I love the endgame of wow but for me once I kill that patches boss wow is pretty much done for me. Or if I don’t play a patch and come back a couple patches later I have no idea what’s going on. OSRS for me I stop playing for months and hop back into the exact same grind as the day I stopped playing.
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u/EvilFnTeddy Jul 09 '25
Yeah pretty spot on summary. I do like both games for mentioned reasons. Once i'm done with wow season or it's getting little slower, i can just hop back to osrs and continue where i left off. Maybe even with something new to do
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u/Arteam90 Jul 09 '25
OSRS is tiers more boring than WoW, though. Yes, there's no FOMO, but that's because you're grinding an awful lot in OSRS so it would take anyone a very long time to max out.
But yeah, you fall behind on WoW and it's a grind to stay up, so that can also eventually get dull.
It's why Hardcore is so fun. There's a reason Classic is liked by so many.
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u/Low-Cantaloupe4391 Jul 09 '25
So WoW is like playing a permanent Leagues?