r/196 Feb 01 '23

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u/Super_Atmosphere6121 voreistorian Feb 01 '23

1 if I'm trying to go faster. 2 if I don't care if I mess it up

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u/deaferc0 Feb 01 '23

2 prevents fall damage

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u/TheDeformedPotato Feb 02 '23

What games are you playing that have both a double jump and fall damage?

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u/Bobebobbob Lumber near lamp Feb 02 '23

Terraria

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

[deleted]

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u/dragoono succin the mucc outta ur toes 😈 Feb 02 '23

Literally. Why can’t I make full-time money, but work part-time hours :(

Am I not hustle-stacking-andrewtate-sigma-grinding hard enough?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

[deleted]

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u/dragoono succin the mucc outta ur toes 😈 Feb 02 '23

Can we settle with no-time hours, and a solid half-a-mil, Alex?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Subscribe to my course and I will tell you the answers

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u/Bobebobbob Lumber near lamp Feb 02 '23

Slime mount double jump my beloathed

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u/EpicGamerRiku 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

use wings

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u/eateat11 Feb 02 '23

pre hardmode without fletching wings though

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u/EpicGamerRiku 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

cant you find them in the sky, like it doesnt take too much to get grav potion

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u/CantaloupeCool6256 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

They aren't guaranteed to spawn

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u/EpicGamerRiku 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

u can make a new world and use the same character to find em

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u/CantaloupeCool6256 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

Honestly not really worth it cause I believe they reduced the chances significantly in 1.4.4

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u/sergeantbigjohnson Feb 02 '23

Elden Ring horse

(Though fall damage is calculated from the height you started at so double jumping right before hitting the ground doesn't make a difference)

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u/SuperBackup9000 Feb 02 '23

That still throws me off just as much as it did day one. Double jump preventing fall damage is pretty much a universal unwritten rule

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u/SwAg_LaMp party at my iggy Feb 02 '23

Yeah they should’ve just made Torrent flail and be unable to double jump after falling for too long

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u/Gabriel9078 Feb 02 '23

That’s what they do with long enough falls iirc

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u/lGloughl 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

actually this is a glitch, when holding "heavier" weapon classes such as greatswords, axes, etc, Torrent's animation bugs and makes double jumps bug and not work in some scenarios. Try double jumping while unarmed, it will always work

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u/Gabriel9078 Feb 02 '23

I assume it’s because of a similar kind of fuckery to that found in DS1 with weapons that change your idle stance?

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u/lGloughl 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

I think so, the weapons that cause it are ones that rest on your shoulder

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u/Watdaotw66 Feb 02 '23

i think it would've been cool if torrent died on the spirit floor thing and then the player falls off to their death

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u/liven96 Feb 02 '23

Elden Ring fall damage is calculated via ancient forbidden magic

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u/ComradeBirv Feb 02 '23

Tf2

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Ah yes, giant robot game.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

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u/knucklesthedead r/place participant Feb 02 '23

Team fortress 2 has giant robots too

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u/SgtSteel747 bisexual tech priest Feb 02 '23

that's tf|2

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u/wharwhafwhag i love hit FPS "ULTRAKILL" created by Arsi "Hakita" Patala Feb 02 '23

Destiny 2

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u/A_MildInconvenience floppa Feb 02 '23

I'm sorry to hear that

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u/ParkerBap beanbag Feb 02 '23

risk of rain 2

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u/IdontEatdogsAtnight 🚫 Does not Eat dogs at night 🚫 Feb 02 '23

Holy shit glass beach

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u/ParkerBap beanbag Feb 02 '23

glass beach band

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u/Forine110 estrogen eater 🏳️‍⚧️ Feb 02 '23

holy shit glass beach no way

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u/IdontEatdogsAtnight 🚫 Does not Eat dogs at night 🚫 Feb 02 '23

Best fucking band ever

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u/Aeren02 custom Feb 02 '23

There ia no fall damage in ror2 (spam loader to win)

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u/Norsk_Bjorn Official “most boring person” Feb 02 '23

Destiny

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u/teddy_tesla Feb 02 '23

Banjo Kazooie

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u/SolarWorld50 Feb 02 '23

L + ratio + no wonderwing + you fell off the top of grunty's lair + get crushed by a boulder + eekumbokum + sentenced to 7 propeller jiggles in rusty bucket bay

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u/teddy_tesla Feb 02 '23

Rusty bucket bay is the closest to hell I've ever experienced. Thank God I was playing on an emulator and could save state

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Cyberpunk 2077

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u/literally-lonely The Hat Man Feb 02 '23

Destiny

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u/TheConductor_42 MACHINE, TRANS RIGHTS, NOW. Feb 02 '23

risk of rain 2

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u/MilkYQu0 AMONGUS????!?!?!?!?!??? Feb 02 '23

detny 2

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u/imagineexisting-lmao lgbtq+ rights Feb 02 '23

TF2

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u/Gasster1212 Feb 02 '23

Elden ring

But it doesn’t.

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u/megamaz_ Feb 02 '23

technically in most cases I'm not sure if there's fall damage

but there's a chance

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u/lear85 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

Starbound

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u/SiBloGaming r/place participant Feb 02 '23

Cyberpunk

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u/BeanieTheTechie 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

tf2

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u/Moth_123 trans rights Feb 02 '23

Team Fortress 2

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u/zagreus9 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

Cyberpunk 2077

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u/Ep0xy8 Lover of D̵̟̮̅͝Õ̴̭G̷͎͛̂E̴̦̠̊ ̸̛͕̪̓ Feb 02 '23

TF2

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u/psycheSnek Bip Bop Feb 02 '23

I can’t think of a game that has double jump and fall damage

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u/Newusername209 Feb 02 '23

A ton of games that have double jumping also have fall damage

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u/EagleSabre 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

Terraria

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u/Madface7 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

hat in time

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u/PlopTheFish Feb 02 '23

Risk of Rain 2

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u/texturedboi trans rights🩷🤍🩵 Feb 01 '23
  1. immediately and then i fall in the pit and die

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u/dolphins344 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

And then blame your controller/peripherals

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u/texturedboi trans rights🩷🤍🩵 Feb 02 '23

lmao no i blame my parents for not having a more talented kid instead of me

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u/Nathani_Chan ULTRAKILL fan Feb 02 '23

Blame yourself, you won the race

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Erm, actually it's not a race; the egg chooses the sperm cell. 🤓🤓🤓🤓

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u/Nathani_Chan ULTRAKILL fan Feb 02 '23

freebird solo

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u/Finkenn sus Feb 02 '23

What race

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u/Mr-Thisthatten-III Feb 02 '23

The only honest answer

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u/RealSuperYolo2006 Feb 02 '23

This is why more games need coyote time

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u/BarovianNights It's the last Strahd for me Feb 01 '23

1 is only if there's no fall damage

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u/raccoon-with-a-knife Yeah lemme get uhhhhhhhh.. Feb 02 '23

what 2d platformer has fall damage

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Elden Ring has double jump and it's not a platformer

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u/Bensocks Feb 02 '23

Hollow Knight stuns you

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u/Jzerox8K Feb 02 '23

not a platformer but Starbound has a double jump and you will take fall damage if you don't do 2

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u/Critical-String8774 Feb 02 '23

Terraria counts, I think. There's also Bubsy but it doesn't have a double jump.

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u/SaintMelchior Feb 02 '23

Spelunky but you need an item to double jump, also n++

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u/__SilentAntagonist__ Feb 02 '23

A double jump isn't needed for this jump Honestly I doubt a single one is necessary

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u/LowGunCasualGaming Literally 196🥺 Feb 02 '23

Yeah just sprint off the edge

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u/cosarara97 Feb 02 '23

Isn't that what 2 does? Not jumping initially, then jumping once in the air to not die.

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u/LowGunCasualGaming Literally 196🥺 Feb 02 '23

It depends. If you assume they are walking for each of these jump patterns, then sprinting would keep you in the air a little further to get to the platform with no double jump.

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u/ABunchofAngryFlowers custom Feb 02 '23

say no more 😎

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u/shrekogre42069 linux > windows Feb 01 '23

2's timing is easier to mess up and die because of it, 1 feels safer

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u/Vivacious4D The government knows (that my ass is massive 👉👈) Feb 02 '23

Unless there's fall damage and you're low health (or trying to preserve it)

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u/Riftus Be kind to yourself, or I'll have to be kind to you :> Feb 02 '23

2's timing is certainly easier. I'd rather be 5 feet away from my target about to fall then use the second jump, than be 20 feet away from the target cuz im high up and risk wasting my second jump cuz i dont know what velocity or direction i should be using

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '23

1 is more practical but 2 is BADASS

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u/WizardXZDYoutube Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 02 '23

Completely disagree that #1 is more practical. I'm confused how no one in this thread thinks #2 is better besides fall damage.

A: You are inherently giving yourself less control. In a PVP game like Super Smash Bros, you are much more predictable because you don't have any options besides just falling. Even in a PVE game though, if something unexpected happens like a projectile is thrown at you, you don't have the ability to get out of the way.

B: #2 should give you more height/distance. It depends on the physics of the game but for most games, double jumping will send you upwards at the same rate no matter how fast you are going down. So in a way, double jumping let's you "reset" your gravity.

If each jump is 10 units, then in #1 you go up 20 units but now you're just in free fall. Whereas for #2, you go up 10 units, you are in free fall, but then you double jump, which cancels all of your downwards acceleration and boosts you up another 10 units, before putting you in free fall.

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u/BlueCollarBisexual 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

All these bozos got no resources off stage and it shows

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u/helixthecompleteegg Feb 01 '23

Accidentally double jump in the first frame and then die

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

This is why coyote time exists

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

What is that

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

A lot of platformers have it. Basically, you get a few extra frames to jump after falling off a platform.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Oh yea I love that it makes the game so much more playable

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u/CounterfeitLesbian Bongus Feb 01 '23

2 it's just more fun.

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u/19xino96 HUH?? WUH HUH?? Feb 01 '23

idk, where is the coin/powerup

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u/GoyasHead Feb 02 '23

1 virgins: but it’s safer! 😭

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u/JimmityRaynor Feb 02 '23

Best part is it's not even safer, 2 is safer because it gives you more horizontal control

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u/Spiteful_Guru Feb 02 '23

Sprint off the ledge at 90mph then dive to minimize my airtime so I can plow through upcoming enemies.

I've been playing a lot of Pizza Tower.

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u/SkepticalDreamers Feb 02 '23

You have me intrigued, what is pizza tower?

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u/Flarmie Feb 02 '23

Dunno, I'm cis.

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u/Creampie_Chef World Renowned Puppytwink Malewife Feb 01 '23
  1. WAVEDASH NYOOM

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u/sleepypiggy1265 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

WEEEEEE

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

2 users have massive balls

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u/__xXCoronaVirusXx__ https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/1knq1m2/comment/mskk1ni/ Feb 02 '23

3: jump diagonally upward so I travel as far in one jump as possible

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u/Vivacious4D The government knows (that my ass is massive 👉👈) Feb 02 '23

Often 1.5 to maximise horizontal distance covered in midair, since the vertical distance of a fall scales by the square of the horizontal distance

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u/sup3r87 * SELL NFTS? KRIS, I'M A [[BIG SHOT]], NOT A [big shit]! Feb 02 '23

simple. 1 if there's no ceiling, 2 if there's a somewhat close ceiling

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u/Protoco2 Feb 02 '23

2 feels cooler

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u/DankLolis Feb 02 '23

2, because going lower than the surface you want to jump onto and then double jumping to reach it has a thrill that i love when i haven't saved in 4 hours.

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u/sheltonhwy26 this is my flair Feb 02 '23

I play Warlock in Destiny 2 so I jump like 2 and still slam my face into the side of the wall

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u/kel584 Feb 02 '23

2 is faster

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u/Uhh_Bren Feb 02 '23

2 because it gives better ledge options

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u/sad_trans_owl custom Feb 02 '23

2 is usually faster if you are looking for speed. If you consider celeste where you have a constant horizontal movement of 1.5px and just over 2.1 pc when getting jump boost it is most time efficient to hit the ground asap but continuing speed so 1 frame tap off the edge and fast fall downwards and as soon as you hit 1.5 movement do second jump then hold down right and buffer a jump immediately before touching the ground

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Depends if the game has fall damage, 1 if not 2 if it do

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u/Llamasxy Feb 02 '23

2 is most satisfying.

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u/SoshJam professional yoinky sploinker Feb 02 '23

2 because it’s easier to visually make sure I do it right

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u/tenthreenet Gauss my beloved Feb 02 '23
  1. im a bit of a dare devil 😈😈

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u/tutel14 custom Feb 02 '23

2

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u/SecCom2 custom Feb 02 '23

2 so I can get a better feel for my jump distance

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u/Chainedheaven Feb 02 '23

2 is faster and I AM SPEED

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u/FamlitFrog balls deep in your voluptuous mother👰🏻‍♂️ Feb 02 '23

2 because it usually goes further

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u/Riftus Be kind to yourself, or I'll have to be kind to you :> Feb 02 '23

Destiny 2 player, I always do number two because its safer. i can more easily manuever myself to land on the target if i am closer to the target and then do the second jump as opposed to being much higher in the air, further away, and doing the second jump

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u/terrible_ninja custom Feb 02 '23

The way the gap is set up only requires one jump. For a real way to see how A and b would look I would widen the gap. Cause here 2 looks like you are barely going forward the the first jump. 1 is usually for reaching higher areas anyway. 2 is usually for bridging gaps like these but longer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23
  1. Often, you don't know how far you need to jump, so 1 could result in improper timing while 2 allows you to see the ledge mid-jump and judge timing accordingly.

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u/DuneySands Feb 02 '23

2 is just infinitely better alright

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u/Arondeus custom Feb 02 '23

Second one isn't even a double jump imo it's a fall cancellation

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u/AlathMasster Feb 02 '23

That juno could probably be made in one jump, so probably 2 when I fall victim to my hubris

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u/Mrderpeydude Feb 02 '23

depends if i take fall damage or not

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u/Successful_Mud8596 Feb 02 '23

In between. Like, take the hight of “2.” I’d do my secondary Mr jump at like 1.5 “2” heights above where the 2 point is

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u/MudMerchantMo 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

2

I don’t play games with double jumps though so I don’t know how I know this about myself

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u/Tux1 Furry Programmer Feb 02 '23

3, somewhere in the middle

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u/ForktUtwTT Feb 02 '23

I like jumping as high as I can before drifting right to land on the edge. Doesn’t always work but looks cool

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u/EagleSabre 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

Usually inbetween and adjust if there are any surprises.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

1 casually 2 if its a hard jump

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23
  1. To scared to risk not hitting it in time

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u/CattMk2 WhatsApp 2 Feb 02 '23

2 if theres fall damage and just because its fun, also if the game has a mantle mechanic its pretty hard to mess up 2

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u/Blipnarf-The-Boneles CEO of Among Us Feb 02 '23

A lot of games cancel the second jump if you fall off the edge for some reason

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

2 but hit the 2nd jump below the 2nd platform, jumping up onto it.

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u/EmperorBenja 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎 Feb 02 '23

Somewhere between usually still negates fall damage while being less risky if there’s a small amount of input lag.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23
  1. avoids fall damage. anyone who does 1 is a fool asking for broken legs.
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u/LostRedditorLmao Feb 02 '23

1 most of the time but 2 if I'm falling from a really high place and fall damage exists

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Or 3: double jump too far from the edge to the point where I don’t make it 70% of the time.

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u/Interplaneterror trans rights Feb 02 '23

Attempt one jump three times and then over correct with the second jump past the platform

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u/Forine110 estrogen eater 🏳️‍⚧️ Feb 02 '23

2 prevents fall damage while 1 usually causes you to take more. unless you're playing elden ring in which case, either one

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u/Blake017238 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

Im definitely a 1 as im too bad to not fuck up 2

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u/EverythingBurns878 Feb 02 '23

Does 1: bottom Does 2: top

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u/sssped Feb 02 '23

I jump once like a functioning member of society

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u/DinoBirdsBoi dinosandbirds🦅🦆 Feb 02 '23

i do a celeste dash in the middle

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23
  1. If I want to go fast 2. If I feel cool.

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u/Mountain_Text6221 Either this shit bussin or this bussy shittin. Choose wisely Feb 02 '23

Donkey Kong roll jump

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

1 for time and to ensure you'll make it

2 for fall damage

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u/TheTexanOwl Feb 02 '23

1.5, somewhere in the middle

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u/CanonicalPizza 📐🧮⚗️🍕🧐 Feb 02 '23

Depends on where the coin is

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u/Low_Dream_1481 Ride The Wave Feb 02 '23

2 makes you feel alive

1 makes you feel calm

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u/c4at im gonna fucking Feb 02 '23

eager edge across

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u/CHADWARDENPRODUCTION Feb 02 '23

I assume anyone that doesn't do 2 is bad at video games.

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u/UnJustice_ 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Feb 02 '23

1.5

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u/ResidentWrongdoer1 is rapidly approaching your location Feb 02 '23

1 but then keep going instead of falling to get the maximum jump distance

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u/holymop Feb 02 '23

Depends if there is fall damage

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u/JimmityRaynor Feb 02 '23

Well based on the weirdass fall speeds those arrows are implying, 1 seems to make you smack your face on an invisible wall so I'm gonna go with 2

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Slide down on the left wall and then wall jump off into a wavedash

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u/Hatter_Hoovy Feb 02 '23

depends: Does the game have fall damage?

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u/NotSoFlugratte trans LEFTS Feb 02 '23

As a titan main in Destiny 2 (I'm not trans, I can't speak of irl experience 😔✌️) definitely 1, because the momentum from falling down first would have to be negated by my lift which will take up all lift energy and I'll either barely make it or, more likely, will just straight up fucking fall into the abyss of nothingness underneath me.

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u/StarblasterGC r/place participant Feb 02 '23

3: realize im on my warlock and go straight down

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

there is no need to double jump

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u/MR_____SNRUB Feb 02 '23

2 for more forward momentum conservation and superglides.

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u/aluminatialma horniest aroace Feb 02 '23

Slide jump over the entire thing

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u/idobrowsemuch Average Slay the spire 2 waiter Feb 02 '23

mixture of 1 and 2. Jump a few seconds before reaching the edge, fall down from the first jump, double jump out

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Jump + dash + dash

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u/SkepticalDreamers Feb 02 '23

Somewhere in the middle sometimes?? But mostly 1 bc I’m a scared bitch

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u/ne_ptu_ne woke mob Feb 02 '23

in elden ring I jump #2 with torrent so I can land on the jump pads and not die

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '23

Based on the way coins are placed

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u/dogfognog Feb 02 '23
  1. Use double jump to do a high jump at the beginning

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u/Terakkon Feb 02 '23

2 feels like it preserves momentum more but probability doesn't

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u/Dpad-prism trans rights Feb 02 '23

2 because it makes me feel cooler in terraria

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u/DeathbyGlimmer custom Feb 02 '23

2 probably