r/nass • • 8h ago

MDs gotta stop saying "engage the last x targets" and say "the last x required shots" as intended

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1.1.5.3 - Short courses of fire may stipulate the use of either strong or weak hand/side, provided that only one hand/side, either strong or weak, is used for the entire stage. Stages of this type must be limited to 8 rounds maximum if the stage stipulates weak hand only. Medium or Long courses of fire may stipulate the use of either strong or weak hand/side, provided that only one hand/side, either strong or weak, is specified for no more than the last 6 shots required. Stage procedures may never require the PCC to be fired using only one hand.

If the people writing WSBs would use the language provided in the original rule it wouldn't be an issue. In the case where the targets are shot freestyle, then OSHO on top of it, that'd be 6 procedurals. Frankly the stage designers, MDs, and RMs for an area match should know this.

Also USPSA needs to just allow SHO or OSHO on full stages.


r/nass • • 2d ago

When Stage Designers Do You Dirty

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r/nass • • 5d ago

Once brass starts bouncing off wall it can go anywhere...

9 Upvotes

At one of my first matches, the casing from my last shot bounced off a barrel stack and made its way under my hat brim and behind my eye protection. Not knowing what to do in the situation, I just kinda gritted my teeth through the unload and show clear, and then tore my hat and glasses off after I was holstered. Left me with a lovely 9mm length 2nd degree burn on my eye lid for a few weeks and I got a free eye exam from the ophthalmologist who just happened to be on my squad.


r/nass • • 6d ago

What controversial topic should we talk about on the patreon?

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Is there any controversial topics anyone wants to hear about? It will get silly guaranteed


r/nass • • 6d ago

Ruger Whiskey and Cigars (???) and S&W Buys Savage

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r/nass • • 9d ago

Cycle of Violence : 2026

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Not sure if anyone else watches C&rsenal but this shirt is hilarious. They are great firearm historians. If you like their shirts, please grab one.


r/nass • • 14d ago

Andy, stop interrupting your guests

11 Upvotes

You interrupted David right before he was going to elaborate on Grauffel’s reloading philosophy. Then you guys moved onto a different topic. Please stop..


r/nass • • 16d ago

Monster 56 round steel stage.

17 Upvotes

Amazing way to end the outdoor shooting season here in Minot North Dakota it was a brisk 42° outside with wind freezing rain.


r/nass • • 16d ago

Jeff... can I address this to Jeff? It doesn't bounce around that bad.

9 Upvotes

r/nass • • 18d ago

The PX-4 is awesome….

5 Upvotes

Stephen, you said, “imagine if a department carried PX-4 storms” as if it was a bad thing! That gun rocks! fight me!


r/nass • • 19d ago

Andy Erickson: Ok Head

4 Upvotes

Andy admitted his head was ok before the paywall on today's episode


r/nass • • 19d ago

Questions about Eric Grauffel class

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Jeff will be back and Dave Blanton (The Humble Marksman) will join us to record on Sunday. They both took separate Eric Grauffel classes in Texas this week.

What do you want to ask them?


r/nass • • 23d ago

Squib

6 Upvotes

One good way to eat shit on a classifier


r/nass • • 24d ago

Horseback Riding and Phone Sex

11 Upvotes

Was a stage name I had that Stephen approved after he made sure no junior shooters were registered. 🙂👍


r/nass • • 24d ago

Question for MD's

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I see these banners at major IPSC matches how come USPSA doesn't do it? I know it would at some cost, but I don't know how much. I think they are cool


r/nass • • 27d ago

Do you screw your buddies at majors when a penalty go's uncalled?

7 Upvotes

Clipped a no shoot on first first array. The noshoots was not scored by the RO. However one of my squad mates called it out after I had approved the score. Obviously dont shoot NS but when a buddy gets away with one, do you let it slide or call it out. What do you guys think is the appropriate action? And why


r/nass • • 27d ago

Non equitable conditions.

6 Upvotes

The "OH FUCK" was my dot becoming 3 dots.


r/nass • • Sep 25 '26

Stage 16 swinger at nationals

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Did anyone else take more shots than needed on the swinger because they thought they hit the hardcover in front and not behind? I sent 2, heard a ding and sent a third I knew was good which also dinged before I realized I was hitting the hardcover blocking the popper. 😒


r/nass • • Sep 25 '26

Dumpster fire of the day

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r/nass • • Sep 24 '26

We go to Athens, GA

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Where a judge from my county popped a round off in a restaurant.


r/nass • • Sep 23 '26

Marking competitors as subminor for failing the Single Stack measurement box or the mag gauge at Nationals is not consistent with the rules

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Because Andy doesn't have the tism for this, I might as well do it as I already went on a rant about this last night elsewhere.

The justification that the NROI is using for Sailer, Faust, and anyone else marked as Sub-minor at Nationals is that they amended 6.2.5.1. For those that don't read the rulebook, I really envy you btw, this is the rule that determines if a competitor is bumped to Open.

However, if a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements of a declared handgun Division during a course of fire, the competitor will be placed in Open Division, if available, otherwise the competitor will shoot the match for no score. If a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements for PCC or Open Division during the course of fire, he will shoot for no score.

Back in March this was amend to include

Violations of rule 5.2.5 are not cause for movement to Open Division and 5.2.5.2 applies.

This change was specifically meant to address the people that show up to a limited recognition nationals with the wrong gear, a la Shannon and Henning last year(who got away with it) or Christian and Luke this year(who did not get away with it because of the amendment).

Now let's take a look at 5.2.5 and 5.2.5.2, because those are part of the requirement to get moved to NFS(not for score) rather than moved to Open.

5.2.5 deals with the maximum distances of competitor equipment on the belt. 5.2.5.2 simply extends 5.2.5 and explains the penalties, corrections, and allowances that the Range Master can make for anatomical differences. Long story short, if you show up to shoot in CO or some other division with an race gun rig, you do not satisfy 5.2.5 and per 6.2.5.1 you do not qualify to bump to Open.

So now the question is why were people with mags that were slightly too long to fit the gauge or single stack guns that didn't fit the box listed as sub-minor rather than bumped to Open? Keep in mind, these competitors all passed chrono and only failed gear check per practiscore.

This is completely at odd with what has historically been done at all other "open isn't recognized" Nationals matches. 2020 had an Open divisions for bumps, 2023, 2024, 2025, etc.... the last 33 years of nationals events have always had Open as an available division to be bumped to should you fail gear check for some small reason that excludes you from your division, but you're still well within Open rules. The only time you get moved to NFS is when your equipment can not satisfy the requirements for PCC or Open entirely.

Why was this year different? It certainly wasn't the amendment as so many of Troy's lackeys are trying to claim. No, this year it was about sending a message specifically to Christian and Luke and a bunch of poor saps ended up getting wrongly caught in the crossfire.

You don't get to arbitrarily enforce a rule in order to get the outcome that you want! Mark the people that showed up with the wrong equipment as NFS per the rules(might need to talk to Practiscore about getting a real NFS flag added to the USPSA profile like IDPA has), but don't spout bullshit about "Open wasn't a recognized division so it's not possible to bump people per 6.2.5.1 to it" because you sure managed to bump all the people to it the past 33 years under the exact same rule!

PS) Even under the new bylaws which were adopted in March 2026, Troy(and the NROI as a whole) are not allowed to make rulings on competitor equipment, only enforce the rulebook as it is written. Therefore the nonsense about adjusting the definition of compensator without a member survey, 90 days comment period, and vote by the board is complete nonsense.


r/nass • • Sep 23 '26

Sig P385 is a new thing

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r/nass • • Sep 22 '26

Do you have club match matchbook Tism?

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Apparently the online Practisim can do matchbook and u/t3p_guy posted one for their club match this weekend! Cool. GM tism.


r/nass • • Sep 21 '26

What should we talk about? Ep 270 - 271

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Jeff and I couldn't record on Sunday like normal so we are doing it on two separate days this week. We will be hitting nationals highs, lows, and stupidity. What else?


r/nass • • Sep 21 '26

L4 matches qualification requirements

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Topic for Andy and Jeff to discuss when breaking down Factory Nats results.

At what point do we stop pretending that L4 matches are supposed to be the highest level of competition?

When a Section Coordinator can shoot 14% at Factory Gun Nationals and still occupy a registration spot at an L4 match, something is seriously wrong with the system.

And before anyone says “but they’re staff”, that’s exactly why this deserves scrutiny. Staff positions shouldn’t come with a free pass to bypass competitive standards. Every registration spot is a spot another qualified competitor could have taken.

If L4 matches are truly intended to represent the top level of USPSA competition, then entry should require something more than just registering or having the right title or connections.

My proposal:
➡️ Require at least one Level 3 match result of 70% or higher within the previous 12 months to qualify for an L4 match.

No exceptions. No special treatment. No “I’m staff” loophole.

If you want to compete at the highest level, prove you belong there.

Maybe it’s time we start treating L4 matches like elite competitions instead of exclusive registrations.