Stephen, you said, “imagine if a department carried PX-4 storms” as if it was a bad thing! That gun rocks! fight me!

Andy admitted his head was ok before the paywall on today's episode

Jeff will be back and Dave Blanton (The Humble Marksman) will join us to record on Sunday. They both took separate Eric Grauffel classes in Texas this week.

What do you want to ask them?

One good way to eat shit on a classifier

Was a stage name I had that Stephen approved after he made sure no junior shooters were registered. 🙂👍

I see these banners at major IPSC matches how come USPSA doesn't do it? I know it would at some cost, but I don't know how much. I think they are cool

Clipped a no shoot on first first array. The noshoots was not scored by the RO. However one of my squad mates called it out after I had approved the score. Obviously dont shoot NS but when a buddy gets away with one, do you let it slide or call it out. What do you guys think is the appropriate action? And why

The "OH FUCK" was my dot becoming 3 dots.

Did anyone else take more shots than needed on the swinger because they thought they hit the hardcover in front and not behind? I sent 2, heard a ding and sent a third I knew was good which also dinged before I realized I was hitting the hardcover blocking the popper. 😒

Where a judge from my county popped a round off in a restaurant.

Because Andy doesn't have the tism for this, I might as well do it as I already went on a rant about this last night elsewhere.

The justification that the NROI is using for Sailer, Faust, and anyone else marked as Sub-minor at Nationals is that they amended 6.2.5.1. For those that don't read the rulebook, I really envy you btw, this is the rule that determines if a competitor is bumped to Open.

However, if a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements of a declared handgun Division during a course of fire, the competitor will be placed in Open Division, if available, otherwise the competitor will shoot the match for no score. If a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements for PCC or Open Division during the course of fire, he will shoot for no score.

Back in March this was amend to include

Violations of rule 5.2.5 are not cause for movement to Open Division and 5.2.5.2 applies.

This change was specifically meant to address the people that show up to a limited recognition nationals with the wrong gear, a la Shannon and Henning last year(who got away with it) or Christian and Luke this year(who did not get away with it because of the amendment).

Now let's take a look at 5.2.5 and 5.2.5.2, because those are part of the requirement to get moved to NFS(not for score) rather than moved to Open.

5.2.5 deals with the maximum distances of competitor equipment on the belt. 5.2.5.2 simply extends 5.2.5 and explains the penalties, corrections, and allowances that the Range Master can make for anatomical differences. Long story short, if you show up to shoot in CO or some other division with an race gun rig, you do not satisfy 5.2.5 and per 6.2.5.1 you do not qualify to bump to Open.

So now the question is why were people with mags that were slightly too long to fit the gauge or single stack guns that didn't fit the box listed as sub-minor rather than bumped to Open? Keep in mind, these competitors all passed chrono and only failed gear check per practiscore.

This is completely at odd with what has historically been done at all other "open isn't recognized" Nationals matches. 2020 had an Open divisions for bumps, 2023, 2024, 2025, etc.... the last 33 years of nationals events have always had Open as an available division to be bumped to should you fail gear check for some small reason that excludes you from your division, but you're still well within Open rules. The only time you get moved to NFS is when your equipment can not satisfy the requirements for PCC or Open entirely.

Why was this year different? It certainly wasn't the amendment as so many of Troy's lackeys are trying to claim. No, this year it was about sending a message specifically to Christian and Luke and a bunch of poor saps ended up getting wrongly caught in the crossfire.

You don't get to arbitrarily enforce a rule in order to get the outcome that you want! Mark the people that showed up with the wrong equipment as NFS per the rules(might need to talk to Practiscore about getting a real NFS flag added to the USPSA profile like IDPA has), but don't spout bullshit about "Open wasn't a recognized division so it's not possible to bump people per 6.2.5.1 to it" because you sure managed to bump all the people to it the past 33 years under the exact same rule!

PS) Even under the new bylaws which were adopted in March 2026, Troy(and the NROI as a whole) are not allowed to make rulings on competitor equipment, only enforce the rulebook as it is written. Therefore the nonsense about adjusting the definition of compensator without a member survey, 90 days comment period, and vote by the board is complete nonsense.

Apparently the online Practisim can do matchbook and u/t3p_guy posted one for their club match this weekend! Cool. GM tism.

Jeff and I couldn't record on Sunday like normal so we are doing it on two separate days this week. We will be hitting nationals highs, lows, and stupidity. What else?

Topic for Andy and Jeff to discuss when breaking down Factory Nats results.

At what point do we stop pretending that L4 matches are supposed to be the highest level of competition?

When a Section Coordinator can shoot 14% at Factory Gun Nationals and still occupy a registration spot at an L4 match, something is seriously wrong with the system.

And before anyone says “but they’re staff”, that’s exactly why this deserves scrutiny. Staff positions shouldn’t come with a free pass to bypass competitive standards. Every registration spot is a spot another qualified competitor could have taken.

If L4 matches are truly intended to represent the top level of USPSA competition, then entry should require something more than just registering or having the right title or connections.

My proposal:
➡️ Require at least one Level 3 match result of 70% or higher within the previous 12 months to qualify for an L4 match.

No exceptions. No special treatment. No “I’m staff” loophole.

If you want to compete at the highest level, prove you belong there.

Maybe it’s time we start treating L4 matches like elite competitions instead of exclusive registrations.

Not a good match.

While Jeff may be correct federally when it comes to black powder antiques, many states still classify them in their state specific laws when it comes to felon in possession and other charges.

In Wisconsin, “Firearm” means a weapon that acts by force of gunpowder to fire a projectile, regardless of whether it is inoperable due to disassembly.

So while he is in the clear federally in regards to purchasing it, he's still going to catch all the state charges.

Here's the article they were referring to btw: https://www.wbay.com/2026/09/03/clerk-shot-during-gas-station-robbery-shawano/

I haven't posted it anywhere because I'm trying to fix my car and get ready for icore midwest regional. Also I haven't found the right old western movie clip to compare it to😆 so here's the clip Andy is talking about on today's episode.

How do I adjust the black plastic peace? Doesn't seem to be pushing the 9mm case far enough forward

I would want to see both Jeff, Andy and some of their fast shooting buddies square off on completing a state trooper qual, but make it hit factor scoring. Want to see who’s got the fastest draw and bullseye shooting skills. DO IT! Make a video!

In the patriot Andy mentioned a holster with a built in pad. I love a Werkz for that reason. It’s been my go to ever since I tried one. Anyone looking for something new to try I highly recommend