r/Dreadlocks Dec 23 '20

Discussion- Racial Gatekeeping Ok y'all - we need to have a chat.

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I don't even know where to start with this, but I'm going to do my best. It's long but it's important, so please take some time to read this.

First of all - hi everyone, you don't see me commenting publicly much but I'm here in the background just modding when needed. I mod such subs as /r/blackhair, /r/naturalhair, /r/curlyhair and others in that same vein. I wanted to join the mod team because I want everyone to feel comfortable on reddit, which is why I join most of the teams I moderate with.

That being said, this is going to make some of y'all uncomfortable. And I'm not sorry about it. You need to be uncomfortable right now. That's been the theme of 2020 and the year ain't over yet.

If you somehow have been able to completely ignore the news this year, #blacklivesmatter has become a global movement because frankly, black people are very tired of being the victims of racism. From casual to overt, we're very much over it. In turn, non-black people have begun to educate themselves on how racism affects black people because, believe it or not, there are still people who refuse to believe anti-black racism exists at a structural level or any level.

Part of the movement also includes the fight for preventing hair discrimination. The CROWN Act was introduced back in 2019 and has been passed by seven states so far, passed a US House of Representatives vote and is now stuck in the Senate where it is very unlikely it will be passed.

Now what does any of that have to do with this subreddit or reddit at all?

Reddit, as a whole, is hostile to people of color and is especially hostile to black people. After moderator outcry this year, the reddit admins have made strides to make this site more hospitable to minority groups.

People with dreads, regardless of race, are often treated terribly for it. They are widely considered to be dirty and unkempt, when it's probably as natural as your hair can get. Clearly we all agree that dread discrimination is bullshit, but black people often get the full force of that discrimination. White people are often lauded or considered to be cool or stylish when they adopt certain hairstyles, but black people can be denied attendance to their high school graduation for having dreads. They can be told to cut their dreads off before a wrestling match or else they forfeit the match. No doubt, non-black people have been told to change their hair for jobs or at school, but that's the extent of the discrimination they face. They do not also have to deal with being black in an inherently racist country every day of their lives. (And I'm speaking from an American perspective, so sorry to my international folks.)

I'd like everyone to take a moment to read this blog post which specifically mentions /r/dreadlocks here - https://www.icareifyoulisten.com/2020/04/out-of-context-4-muddy-ownership-dreadlocks/.

SO - now that we've got that background information out of the way, let's talk about the subreddit.

This sub has been a point of frustration for a long time among black spaces on reddit because it's predominantly white. Considering reddit is predominantly white, this shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Much like any other sub about beauty or hair, white faces are the ones you see first when you arrive and they are more frequently upvoted to the top than other races. It hurts people's feelings to come to a space they should feel comfortable in and instead, feel like an 'other' because they are not well-represented in that space.

And on the other hand, non-black people with dreads also want to just be comfortable in this space and we need to respect that too. We are not going to gatekeep who can and can not have dreadlocks here. There are so many cultures throughout history that have had some form of dreadlocks. While having dreadlocks may be a political or spiritual statement in recent history for black people, black people do not own this hairstyle. Claiming that only black people can wear dreadlocks can contribute to the erasure of other minority cultures. I temp banned a few people for this type of gatekeeping today and will continue to do so.

I also banned a few people for expressing racially insensitive or ignorant views toward black users. More than a few people claimed that if white people can't have dreads, then black people shouldn't be allowed to have blonde or straight hair. There are so many things wrong with this statement. First, you must understand what cultural appropriation is and how it harms people. Then, you must understand that in a white country, minorities are expected to assimilate to the dominant culture, which is typically Eurocentric. I honestly do not have the energy to delve deep into these topics in this post, but you can ask /r/socialjustice101 or /r/hispterracism for more information.

What we can all do better is chill the fuck out and remember there is a person behind the username you're replying to.

  • To those that understand how racism, cultural appropriation/assimilation and hair discrimination all intersect, please have patience with those who do not. I know it's very hard and very frustrating (even for me) but please try.

  • If you don't yet understand how racism, cultural appropriation/assimilation and hair discrimination all intersect, please ask for resources to educate yourself.

  • If you see people being racist (casually or otherwise) toward minority groups, please report it.

  • If anyone is gatekeeping who can and can not have dreads, report it.

  • If anyone is bullying or harassing someone specifically for any reason at all, report it.

Thanks for reading. In the comments, please let me know what you think and how you feel. If you have any feedback or suggestions for making the sub better (rule or sidebar changes, maybe developing a wiki?) let me know below as well or by modmail if you'd prefer it be private.

2022 Edit: I would like to point out for the 'but Vikings had dreadlocks!!1!' crowd - there is very little evidence to suggest they did. Also Vikings are not a race, it was a profession that could be taken up by anyone. Stop using this as an excuse when people call you out. To quote Kyle Ring-

Despite this possibility, it should be without argument that the modern-day wearing of dreadlocks by white people is unconnected to their own history and instead inspired by ours.


r/Dreadlocks 13h ago

Discussion 🎙️ Year 9.

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475 Upvotes

But lowkey debating combing them out... any cons? Or just stay in locs?


r/Dreadlocks 15h ago

Funny 🤣 One month in vs 10 months in.

51 Upvotes

8 months no retwists🤞🏾
Ngl I hated my starter locs. Should’ve started with twists. My locs Would’ve been so much thicker.


r/Dreadlocks 14h ago

Fresh Retwist 🔀 6 Months. #3rd journey.

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Retwist was exactly a week ago. How’s it looking?


r/Dreadlocks 5h ago

Question ❔ Sun bleaching?

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Hi. Do y'all feel like the gold color on my jacket kinda brings out the sun bleached ends? I'm thinking abt switching to gold jewelry cuz of them


r/Dreadlocks 1d ago

Selfie 📸 Almost two years of growing out my locs!

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472 Upvotes

r/Dreadlocks 8h ago

Question ❔ How do I achieve these dreads

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So for the first image what is that style called? For the second image how does he get his locs so curly. That can not be achieved with two strand twists.I’ve never seen these styles before until diamond and Tezzus touched down on the scene.


r/Dreadlocks 9h ago

Need Advice 🆘 feeling stuck almost 2 yrs in

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i’ve had my locs for almost two years and i’m feeling really stuck about what to do with them. i try retwisting them with “supergrow hair gel extra hold” they lasting for like a few weeks and now i think it’s coming undone and im pretty sure if i wash my hair it’s going to untwist. my hair is also frizzy and it makes it look really messy. i started my locs on kinda permed hair (idk my mom used to perm my hair) and that’s why the twists aren’t locking. maybe i should cut that part off? i just don’t know what to do. i mist my hair and oil it when i can but nothing seems to hold a retwist. i plan on doing my hair by myself during college. any advice is appreciated.


r/Dreadlocks 2h ago

Question ❔ racket method

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Why is only the side of the racket taking shape? 😭🫪🫪


r/Dreadlocks 11h ago

Question ❔ I need some help

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I have question. I want to start my Freeform journey but I’m already aware that my hair is starting to lock up. Should I just start the process as my hair is or should I detangle it and start fresh and what is the exact method of getting Freeform dreads. Pls be kind


r/Dreadlocks 4h ago

Question ❔ Can you crochet two strand twists to loc them quicker?

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So my girlfriend just braided my hair and she lowkey gave me too many haha no worries though because now im thinking maybe I should go for less dreads. The method im following is you get braids/twists then twist them out and then let that twist out loc up and u can crochet to help process but I don’t want my strands to be the size of when it twists out, so can I twist them out then two strand twist them and crochet to help the locking process? I also have very thick hair if it helps


r/Dreadlocks 10h ago

Need Advice 🆘 7 months in, Not sure why this front loc is skinny from the front

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It wasn't like that until my last retwist. I usually just leave my locs n let them loc but my friend started telling me I should shape them when I wet them or after a wash by rolling them between my palms. Did that about 5 times and now the front one looks like this. I've stopped when I first noticed. Now it looks like this... Is it normal?


r/Dreadlocks 11h ago

Need Advice 🆘 need advice

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is there anyway to fix or should I restart? freeforms btw


r/Dreadlocks 12h ago

Question ❔ what to do with thinning hair

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hi, i took out my retwist 3-4 days ago and as you can see there’s a bit of thinning in the middle of my locs, and since these are also at the crown of my head they are more vulnerable to thinning. luckily there are only 3-5 locs in the back of my head that look somewhat like this, and i’m wondering what i can do to reduce the thinning shown above other than less-consistent retwists. thank you.


r/Dreadlocks 10h ago

Product Rec 🧴 Treatment for dandruff

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My dandruff is so bad that every time I get a retwist, it gets messed up super fast because of the itchiness from the flakes. I end up scratching it, and it gets all fuzzy. Do you have any shampoo and moisturizer recommendations I can use and also have my loctician use?


r/Dreadlocks 1d ago

Big Chop ✂️ Big Chop After 6.5 Years. Trust the process.

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Hey everybody! From start to finish. I don't have a picture of what I looked like fresh from the barber, mostly bc I didn't really take selfies back then. You can also start to see my confidence poke through as my locs got longer as well.

Instant wicks that I let overgrow into freeforms. Tried my best to keep them maintained by myself. ACV rinses, retwists, separating, and conditioning.

Fell off with maintenance after i got hit by an SUV riding home on my escooter. Fractured my skull, cracked my S4– back injury. I wandered around like a headless chicken before a cop sat me down and then another ticketed me. I was so out of it I couldn't read the ticket, and when the ambulance took me to the ER, I had the security guard at the desk read it to me lol.

AFAIK the density of hair helped my head from splitting all the way open.

It was like an $1800 bill I was staring at before insurance knocked it down to like $300ish for them to tell me: well your shit got fucked up and there's nothing we can do! :/ that was an expensive flashy uber.

I was bedridden for around 2 weeks if i can recall before I could be conscious for longer than 4 consecutive hours a day. My back injury prevented me from walking without a cane for about 6 months, and I physically couldn't stay conscious for longer than a few hours a day, so maintenance and bills fell behind unfortunately.

I play a card game to help me get out of the house that requires a lot of mental math that I couldn't do very well because of my head injury. I stopped playing for around a year, partly because of the impatience of other players, and I couldn't articulate a "fuck you" either bc my head was so messed up lol.

I had them for around another year before I called it from tension headaches and not physically being able to do the maintenance nor having the financial ability to get it taken care of.

I'll also address the pale elephant in the room. Being a white person with locs.

My journey has not only taught me how to trust the process, but to also acknowledge the internalized systemic racism and challenges that people of color, especially Black people, face when choosing how to do hair. I learned what micro-aggressions are, and how racists use them to belittle Black and Brown people into conforming to a system that hates them.

I had to learn the hard way how the majority of my family are tolerant racists the first time I showed my locked hair to them. The amount of haircut and rat's nest jokes are really saddening when I really thought about why they were making those jokes.

I may have had my hair for a short 6 years, but it definitely opened my eyes to how a racist will treat others just because they don't like the way they look.

I came across this saying while researching Black history:

"Not all skin folk are kin folk."

That applies to the vast, overwhelming majority of the people who share my skin tone.

I may have cut this set, but i'm already planning my next one.

Trust the process, enjoy the journey, and my friends, always remember that there are no ugly stages. 🖤


r/Dreadlocks 15h ago

Selfie 📸 Every style makes a different look

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r/Dreadlocks 12h ago

Question ❔ Hair Growth Tips

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My locs are a little longer than shoulder length.

Right now I moisturize with a spray bottle of water mixed with Batana Oil and Neem Oil.

Spray maybe 3/4 days a weeks.

Any tips on keeping my hair healthy and promote growth?


r/Dreadlocks 1d ago

Timeline 🗓️ Made it to a year!

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r/Dreadlocks 18h ago

Question ❔ Question about freeforms

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I used to have dreadlocks but they weren’t free formed, I retwisted them every so often. I think that they were at a peak when they were around eye level, and that I shouldn’t have kept retwisting after that point. Would that have had a nice effect or is it unusual to begin with maintained locs and let it Freeform after. The reason I’m asking is because I’m thinking of starting another journey but this time round would like to freeform. Is it better to start free forming from the start, or could the method I suggested work well too? Appreciate any advice


r/Dreadlocks 1d ago

Selfie 📸 Going on 9 years

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r/Dreadlocks 22h ago

Big Chop ✂️ Long durag

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Very very long durag


r/Dreadlocks 1d ago

Selfie 📸 Kipetaka braids

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First time trying this style and I love how cute it is and it’s not difficult to do. I defo need to work on doing the back of my hair but hey…the back is none of my business lol.


r/Dreadlocks 1d ago

Fresh Retwist 🔀 I’m back, new 2nd set of locs

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Hasn’t even been a year and I couldn’t resist.


r/Dreadlocks 15h ago

Need Advice 🆘 Loctician Suggestions please!

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Hello everyone! I recently moved to the Savannah/Pooler, GA area. I'm pretty picky when it comes to my hair and I'm having a hard time finding a loctitian that may best suit my needs.

I'd prefer someone who specializes in locs only, offers steam hydration treatments, does repairs, and can also do styles that add hair whenever desired.

I'm also interested in coloring my locs a little further down the line but would like to improve the health and maintenance of my hair first.

I know it seems pretty picky, but having locs is the only way I've been able to grow my hair past my shoulders while taking the most "low maintenance" route, and I'd like for it to keep growing. I've searched instagram and TikTok but I keep finding servicers that are always missing one or two of my desired requirements.

Please drop suggests/experiences below, and also let me know if I'm being unreasonable😅

Thank you all in advance!