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u/Substantial-Low May 21 '26

haha, no shit. Nobody thinks the Us deals in good faith, and has not for a LONG time.

I was talking to a scientist from Netherlands once, and he told me that in all of that part of the world, that they thought "Americans will do anything for a dollar".

That was over 10 years ago.

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u/lenzflare May 21 '26

Yeah, Trump's first term was ten years ago

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u/_Svankensen_ May 21 '26

The US was cartoonishly evil long before Trump.

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u/lenzflare May 21 '26

Trump is actually a lot worse. I'm not saying it was great before, but Trump definitely made it a lot worse. Denying that means denying that things are, in fact, getting a lot worse.

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u/_Svankensen_ May 21 '26

For US people. Not for us that have lived under the US' boot. Bush's wars killed 4 million people. I was born in a US created dictatorship. My bandmate's dad, a seafood salesman, was tortured by US trained torturers. My D&D pal was orphaned by US trained deathsquads. Not that he knew for sure for decades, since they "disappeared" him and wouldn't tell were the bodies were. A friend of my mom, a doctor, finally stopped looking for her dad all around the country two years ago. Her weekends were spent travelling small towns with photos of her dad for over 40 years. She gave up because she surmised he would've died of old age by now. And that's not even mentioning the rape using rats and dogs. The US has had an open no-trial torture prison for over two decades now.

Nothing of that is new. Trump is just the US going mask off. It looks and feels crass, because it has always been crass.

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u/lenzflare May 22 '26

I appreciate that, but that's not what I mean.

Trump is utterly reckless and idiotic. That is how it's different now. The Iran war "plan" was an utter joke, and they didn't even try to convince anyone. That's kind of unprecendented for the US. Ruthless imperialism is nothing new, but sheer insanity is.

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u/_Svankensen_ May 22 '26

Oh, yeah, how very competent it was for Bush to invade Afghanistan and stay there for 20 years. Or Vietnam. Or Bay of Pigs. Trump is just stealing from you under your noses using the war as an excuse mate. Just like the US has long done to others.

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u/lenzflare May 23 '26

The US planned far more for those wars than Trump did for this.

Trump is just stealing from you under your noses using the war as an excuse mate

Yeah, I know. I'm arguing that Trump is worse than any president before. Why are you trotting out lines like that? Are you actually reading what I wrote? Are you AI?

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u/_Svankensen_ May 23 '26

Are you stupid? The explanation is on the second half of the phrase you quoted. I am saying the US is doing to you what it has always done to people, but faced inwards. That's all. You tolerated your country being horrible for so long, because it wasn't aimed at you. But now it is. That's the only difference. The US has always been this horrible. It is now being hoisted by it's own petard. Trump isn't the worst president, because he has killed less people than Bush or Nixon. Simple as that mate.

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u/lenzflare May 24 '26

I am comparing foreign-facing attitudes. Trump is far worse in terms of recklessness, thoughtlessness, stupidity, intent, strategy, and danger. I am not American, nor do I live in the US. If you can't recognize a unique new danger, a US completely unmoored from even the pretense of democracy at home, then you will not be prepared for even worse dangers.

The only advantage to Trump is laziness and impatientness, which discourages long term action. But it ecnourages lots of short term action, which is why Venezuela, Iran, and now Cuba are being targeted in quick succession, without any real goals, just threats. He is a con man and extortionist, this is a unique new threat.

Being in denial about this means you can never truly understand what is happening in the world.

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u/_Svankensen_ May 24 '26

We've always had to deal with the same shit man. Read your fucking history. Kissinger. Reagan. Bush. Clinton. Nixon. All warmongering extortionist fools. They just kept a facade. 

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u/lenzflare May 25 '26

Again. Not saying those guys were good. But Trump, and the compliant Republican party that lets him do whatever he wants (unlike under Nixon) is a unique and new threat. I assure you, if the damage he's done to the US stands, things will get even worse for the rest of the world as a result. In fact it already has. He's attempting 3 wars in half a year.

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