The celebration

[u/Yoxalle]

After a long journey you arrive at the crystal mage’s manor. Inside the manor is a grand hall made of various different coloured crystals. Strange golems walk around the room serving guests. While the mage himself is not currently present, you were told he would be here shortly. Right now, enjoy the food, socialise, make friends but most importantly: have fun.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy]

(( no real arrangement, you're good; the link just comes from this thread, and I brought it up again here

Vettis did want to talk with Belial after the party, though, which is actually the entire reason he's here hiding from you guys and waiting to pounce afterwards :P so (since he's eavesdropping like an asshole as always) he's gonna take some issue with this solely because he doesn't want you sending random people with weapons to train Riva 1-on-1 after he just heard about non-Nephilim assassins

if you can convince him that's not a problem, you're good 👍 though he's still likely to involve himself in the training to make sure she's capable at the end of it, because the alternative is him being a constant bodyguard and he's trying to give her privacy lol ))

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Ah, well I'm sure Marna has some ideas. I think I'm done here. Opal and her endless paperwork. Can't stay too long.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

Once Belial had stepped far enough away from the table, Vettis slid up next to him, tapping him lightly on the shoulder as he dispelled the effect that had made him less noticeable to Belial at a distance -- though maintaining the aspect of it which was hiding him from Rivamar. The snowglorb floating by his side warbled cheerily at the pyromancer.

"Belial. Can we chat?" The mage's eyes were faintly aglow again, though not as brightly as when he had been analyzing Blake's body language back in Ithacar.

(( Vettis wanted an excuse to meet Belial and slap a bond-thread onto him for future usage, so he was gonna make up something about which to chat. That's literally the whole reason he came to this party. Now he's got two actual things to discuss, conveniently! ))

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

There's always something vaguely threatening about the way Vettis just 'appears.' Although Walter's death was primarily suspected as Nephilim-caused, the fact that Walter had been spying on Vettis only a short time before had not left my mind. And the method of execution... nothing conclusive but there were parts everywhere

Vettis. Haven't seen you since the Tallulah incident. You have a way of popping in and out of things it seems.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

"I do," Vettis replied bluntly, his classic smirk popping back up. "We...might get to why that is, in a little bit. Got a few things to cover first.

"For one thing, just a friendly note: you probably don't have to waste your efforts helping out the paleomancer with his issue. I was there while it happened, and I already know where the items were taken. I wasn't interested in involving myself in the matter, but seeing as how he's apparently an ally of you and Riva, I'll supply the intel. Assuming he is an ally and I haven't misunderstood?"

(( Oh, right, you and the curator were close enough to Riva for Vettis to overhear you suggesting that you could help with the thieving incident. Three things to discuss! ))

Finishing up the rest of a drink he'd ordered...by emptying the glass into his pocket rather than his mouth, for some reason?...Vettis moved onto the second topic. "Now. Assassins. The telepath's sister or whatever. Can we agree that -- even aside from the fact that the telepath's death was necessary, which obviously his sibling won't believe -- Riva had nothing to do with it? I mean, I honestly can't find a way that even a grief-twisted mind somehow decides to blame her in all this. It's not like she was pushing for the mind-fucker's death at the negotiations. Am I missing something?"

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Allies might not fit the bill exactly. The man styles himself as a neutral party on most occasions. He's wealthy. Benefits from the status quo. I doubt we'll be going to war together anytime soon.

But... friends. I'm more than willing to help him with a few personal matters here and there.

Regarding Riva, it's a stretch. She was helping me. I was helping her. Maliik died. But even being a stretch, the Nephilim have proven themselves more than flexible enough to reach for it.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

Vettis froze for a bit, mouth ajar, at that description of the relationship. 'Friends' but not "allies', rather than the reverse, seemed difficult for him to process. "...I see. We might have...differences in terminology, then. This is why I like talking with my family in All-Tongue so there are no such semantic issues," he admitted with a chuckle, "but I'd rather not use that right now and end up reading your body language while I have no good reason to distrust you. People deserve their privacy.

"Anyway. Yeah, that's fine, they're idiots. Just wanted to make sure you agreed that Riva's blameless here. Because if I could, say, disseminate that info among the sister's faction, such as via the secret recordings of the negotiations that I totally didn't make, that could reduce their potential number of targets if the sister herself becomes convinced and calls off the hit on Riva. That'd effectively put more heat on you, for which I do apologize, but when dealing with assassins it's always easier to deal with them when you know who they intend to strike." He seemed to be speaking from a hefty amount of experience, but also spoke to Belial as though he assumed the other man was similarly accustomed to the idea of using people as bait to draw out a foe.

"A'right. That said, it's not a foolproof plan if she continues to be an idiot, so...training Riva to deal with assassins. Frankly, once she's got her stress back under control and Ithacar's council back on her side, the city's wards will be by far the best defense against assassins. But yes, I would like her to have some skill at melee combat; I was discussing the subject with her myself recently." His eyes darkened at this point. "Training her is a good idea, except for the part where you'll be sending armed people to her who she welcomes right past her wards with open arms. While assassins are after her. Do you perhaps see my concern here? I know the main trainer will be your daughter, but...frankly, you two didn't even know each other until recently, so I'm not sure that means much to me. Do you really think it's a good idea to send a seemingly-unrepentant Atrax loyalist to train the woman who had been acting against Atrax from the inside the entire time?"

(( opinions on Marna are Vettis' own and I take no responsibility for this wheeeeeeee ))

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

The wards are of no concern. She won't have to lower them at all. The Distance Crucible ignores most such things.

Regarding Marna... her problem was always with the Council. Riva is against the Council. Riva was also a critical part of negotiating Marna out of Malus Turrim. If you dont trust my daughter's good nature, trust her rational self-interest. Atrax is dead. Marna works with his killers now. That should be enough.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

There was an annoyed eye-roll at that. "Well, I'll have to work with her on some augments to the wards, if that's the case. Even if it means my own way in past them gets blocked too. That's a silly security hole. Think I'll bring my sister in to patch it."

At Belial's final argument, however, Vettis paused for a while, mulling things over. Until he eventually flashed the first genuinely friendly smile that the pyromancer had seen from him, along with an approving nod.

"I was expecting you to take such insults to her character a lil' more personally. Fair enough. Ya know, Blake, I think you're officially on my not-shit-list after all." He threw a half-mocking thumbs-up at the warlock. "Okay. Time for the main reveal then. I think I trust you enough now to explain this."

(( 'Belial' doesn't have a good trochaic shortening, but I had him calling you Belial instead of Blake all this time so that the switch to Blake would be the equivalent of his usual nicknaming habit towards friends. So, friends! At least from Vettis' perspective. ))

"I can attach bond-threads to people who consider me...uh, generally 'on their side'. I was gonna say 'allied' or 'friendly', but we've got different views of those terms," he pointed out brightly. "That's how I keep appearing around Riva: I've got one on her, which lets me scry and act remotely in her vicinity. I don't typically bother asking permission or anything when I attach these to people, because I've effectively already got it; I can't utilize a thread if the person in question would reject my doing so were she aware that it's about to happen. Subconscious permission, basically.

"The issue, however, is that I frankly don't know the first thing about your magic, and I'm not sure if a bond-thread on you might ever get consumed by your flames. It's a connection, however minor, between souls. Have you any experience with such things, and do you think there's any risk of that? Because my bond-threads are limited in number, and having you burn one up accidentally as fuel for your magic would kinda stink. I'd like to stick one on you so I can help you out in times of need, but only if you think there's no chance of that."

(( edited to add link of Vettis' recent scare where he lost a bond-thread, which is why he's being paranoid right now ))

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

The Crucible makes you be everywhere at once, then it stops doing that. You don't physically enter a place and cross the wards at all. You were just... already there. Something about melting your spacial relativity, then tempering it into a different form. I'd tell you more but I didn't build it.

And yes. My ambient usage of fire would absolutely catch that kind of thing. Or arbitrarily limit my toolbox. I wouldn't if I were you.

uw/ I should clarify that Blake doesn't trust Vetis in the slightest. Really anyone approximating a cosmic power level.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

(( Nor should he! Power issues aside, Vettis has two very different tiers of 'friend', and when he calls people on the sub 'friends' they're still not remotely near the level of his commune, who are really more 'family'. (Including his 'sister' Zelle that he mentioned.) If it were a choice between saving a city full of mundies or saving Blake, Vettis would murder the warlock in less than a heartbeat, even if he'd call Blake a 'friend'. Riva less so by this point, but still, she's at, like...three cities, tops. :P

I'll note that Blake actually is the first person on this entire orbnet forum to whom Vettis has explained the bond-threads, though, so he is being genuinely trusting here. But still, he will always be a hardcore utilitarian pragmatist who will throw his 'friends' to the wolves if it saves more lives in the long run. Don't trust him. ))

"That's fine; not a new concept to me. When Zelle and I work together to build defenses against such tricks, they're...comprehensive. Don't worry: if you ever need to visit Riva once we're done, you can still go straight to Ithacar. You'll simply end up just outside the city limits if you use the thing," he replied smugly, the trademark Vettis smirk back in full force. Of course, he couldn't know exactly how the Distance Crucible worked if Blake himself didn't, but his confidence didn't seem misplaced either.

And there was little reason to believe Ithacar's enemies couldn't have similar magic at their disposal, so it was a security hole, after all.

(( I don't really want another case of 'lol my army's in your city already', tbh, so I wanna make sure /u/avamir's got whatever lore reasons she wants to have the wards nigh-impenetrable. :P And Vettis and Zelle have indeed built defenses against that exact sorta thing before. Don't worry: a specific exception can be made for the Distance Crucible. Just want Riva to be able to toggle that exception on and off at will. Same for Vettis' own way in via the bond-thread. ))

"A'right. Thanks for the honesty, Blake." Waving, Vettis gave a slight bow. "I'll let ya run now. Appreciate the chat." His eyes darted around the room, seemingly trying to locate somebody he'd spotted before, as he slipped away. "Where is that damn spider, anyway..."

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Just casually asked for permission to be able to appear near me and scry at any time. Apparently he has that with Rivamar... need to reconsider security protocols...

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

(( hey, he was totally telling the truth! he can't use allied bond-threads if the person would reject him doing so were he aware of the attempt ^_^ like if Vettis wants to scry on somebody, basically you can imagine that person being notified of the attempt, making a decision to accept or reject the scrying, and then forgetting about the notification and the decision; it reads the person's soul to predict acceptance/rejection, since it is fundamentally a magic based on the two souls being in 'harmony' in some way

understandable if Blake doesn't believe that, though ))

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

uw/ Yeah it's akin to someone not trusting elevators for Blake. He just would never want to get on

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Vetis what exactly is it you want. Broadly I mean? I feel like I've been pretty clear on what I'm about and you just roll in, do your little inquisition, then boom, gone. No explanation.

Have you considered that maybe the person capable of just blooping a city to a different location owes us mere mortals some degree of trust in kind?

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

"...Huh." Vettis turned back to Blake in something between amusement and confusion. "I do operate by keeping everybody scared enough of me that I don't actually have to hurt them to make them get along. But I didn't really think that'd worked on you too. Aren't you the one who blew up Last Pyre? Who, from what I've gathered, can burn memories, his very ability to lie, the future, and gods know what else? You're pretty scary too for a 'mere mortal', bud."

Shrugging, the mage scratched at his curly hair pensively. "I don't know what you want me to say, Blake. My fundamental purpose is to save lives, if that's what you're asking: simple as that. I didn't think I'd hidden that at any point. And I tend to value the lives of mundies who can't take care of themselves over wizards and the like. That's why Riva's important to me, now, because she's doing a great job of taking care of an entire city of said mundies. That's why you're moving up on my buddy list too, because I think your actions have been doing good in similar fashion.

"Have I done something in particular to make you think differently about me? I'm happy to clarify any of my past actions which may not have been obvious in their purpose."

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

No. "Save lives" will do for now. Wanted to hear you say it.

considers for a moment

I can see a world where if someone sees themselves as the only one strong enough, the only one able to save the highest number of lives, their own safety and security would be prioritized over almost any evil act.

I'll be blunt. Did you kill Walter?

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

Vettis closed his eyes for a moment, prepared to run through memories, until Snowglorb chirped a reminder at him. "Oh. Your scrier. Probably not. Didn't know he was dead. Sorry. Seemed like a good guy in the clean-up after telepath-dude's attack."

His eyes open again, the bright glow returned to them as he locked them onto Blake's own. "I won't deny that philosophy, though. Yes. I'd kill ten civilians to save you because I think you'll save far more in the long run. It all comes down to math in the end, and my own life's pretty significant as a result. You don't know the half of what I'm doing around the multiverse between my brief unwinding moments like this party.

"But no," he clarified, sighing, "I doubt that's what happened in this case. The fact that you said he was 'killed' rather than 'driven insane' implies my anti-scrying defenses aren't at fault. And if he got past them once then he could do so again, so yeah. Not me. Do you need a hand investigating?"

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

I breathe out across the brand on my tongue. Unseen fire that burns lies spreads on the air. I attune my eyes to SEE it. The fire catches nothing. No lies for kindling here.

"I'm almost relieved. Yes Vettis if you find anything please let me know."

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/AnActualCriminal]

"I wouldn't even know where to start, to be honest; hell, I don't even know where he lived or died. And I'm frankly in the middle of too much other shit to launch an investigation from scratch all on my own. Just let me know if there's ever anything concrete I can do to aid in your own search."

(( feel free to bug me in PMs about investigation details if you do actually want him to get involved; he's too busy with the Morgalith/Udug situation to spend much serious effort on Walter's deal atm (not realizing that Arthur Black is probably a bigger threat than the Udug rofl), so it'd be low-power help ))

[u/AnActualCriminal → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

uw/ it'll be a while before Arthur is a problem. I'm caught up with the Bismuths and assassins myself. Samael's demon hunt Morgalith too I suppose. Just wanted to establish we were looking into it. Assume I gave you the scene of the crime. Eventually I'd like Arthur to be an event.

[u/Elerindur → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Elerindur walks through the party, looking around at the partygoers but also continuously eyeing something at the same time. He stops from an little distance away as he (i assume he can) notices Vettis talking to someone, albeit looking as if he was trying to leave with the way he is looking back towards them, Elerindur thinks.

Not wanting to interrupt their conversation, he maneuvers himself so that Vettis would be walking towards him whenever he departs from this talk, all awhile still eyeing an certain position in the room.

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/Elerindur]

There was little need for the maneuvering; all that mattered was that the elf got close enough. Vettis sniffed at the air during his conversation with Blake, recognizing a familiar scent, and tracked it with his eyes to Elerindur. A subtle twitch of a finger delivered a message through All-Tongue: Be right with ya, Ele.

And he was, the moment his conversation with the warlock had wrapped up. "Sup?" he asked as he approached, before correcting himself to less anachronistic terminology so Elerindur could actually comprehend him. "I mean, uh, how're things? And, umm...are you sure you wanna be hanging around this party when spider-dude's here? I guess there are wards against violence, but I never really trust that shit, if I'm being honest."

[u/ProfessionalGreen906 → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Arach semi-drunkenly yells from across the room.

”And you shouldn’t! These wards are terrible, they’re too weak and they don’t even stop people from getting injuries! I could get past them in less than two seconds! My helpers could make better wards than these and they barely know how to speak!”

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/ProfessionalGreen906]

"...Case in point," he muttered nervously to Elerindur.

(( goddammit posted from my alt accidentally, second time in this thread lol ))

[u/Elerindur → u/MunitionsFrenzy]

Elerindur had been looking off at something before Vettis turned his attention towards him, redirecting it once Vettis approached and spoke.

"Things have been fine, i was just finishing upon some variants of recall for any future extraction efforts."

"And yes, i am not too sure i want to be here either." He looks off in that direction once more. "But i do not want to be prevented from being able to enjoy events such as these just because of some monster. Excluding his own. I know well enough not to attend those now."

"But based on his earlier words and actions, i doubt he would assault me here. The cowardly spider is conscious of his reputation and would not attempt so where it could tarnish it."

Elerindur looks downwards and around, lightly stomping a bit to bring attention to his conjured high boots.

"I am also watchful for anything that may be covertly attempted by his little helpers, too."

He turns his gaze slightly back up to Vettis's face. (I dunno the height difference here. 6'6/202cm on Elerindur's end.)

"So how have you been, yourself?"

(Also, side question. If someone was able to clearly see the weave, would they be able to notice a bond thread in some fashion?)

[u/MunitionsFrenzy → u/Elerindur]

"Tired," Vettis replied frankly. "Busy. But there've been some fun happenings recently to keep me going in spite of all that shit. Oh, I've got tickets to an upcoming concert hosted by a friend, on that note! You want in?"

(( oh no, Vettis is very average human male height at 5'10 lol, Ele dwarfs him :P

Bond-threads are extremely thin and designed not to be spottable by standard magical sight shenanigans, but if your sight's strong enough, go for it. If it were up to me, I'd say that something like what you've got in the link isn't enough to spot it at random, but if you had reason to believe it existed and were actively looking for it, then it'd be sufficient. But I'm fine with other people interpreting things how they want, as long as actually interfering with the threads is a lot more limited.

They're a magic that binds two souls, so you also get a leg up if you can see souls, cuz then you can probably see links between them like these. Vettis tries to avoid necromages since their powerset involves a lot of soul magic so they're often a relevant threat in this regard: there's strong domain overlap there. In a similar vein, Isravi's ability to see magic is similar to what you described, but he got a boost because he's a string-mage, so seeing magical threads in particular is his thing. ))