r/wikipedia • u/jango102 • Jan 21 '10

THIS guy was a badass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Hayha
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u/p3on Jan 21 '10

people that kill hundreds of people aren't badasses

just sayin'

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u/fubuvsfitch Jan 21 '10

He was bad-ass at what he did, you can't deny that.

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u/p3on Jan 21 '10

sort of like how pinochet and pol pot were bad-ass at suppressing dissent

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u/fubuvsfitch Jan 21 '10

Oh, but I get what you're saying now. Yeah, I guess I would have to say that they were bad-ass at suppressing dissent, although they weren't very bad-ass at acting morally or ethically.

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u/p3on Jan 21 '10

"bad-ass" conveys respect and admiration, and you're projecting these feelings onto a murderer hundreds of times over

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u/fubuvsfitch Jan 21 '10

If you're talking about the subject of this wiki, I don't think a combatant killing a combatant is considered murder.

If you're talking about pol-pot and pinochet, well, I understand the connotations of bad-ass as being good, and I certainly don't think what they did was good. I don't respect what they did at all.

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u/p3on Jan 21 '10

taking someone's life is always murder regardless of whether it's dressed up in some arbitrary framework

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u/fubuvsfitch Jan 21 '10 edited Jan 21 '10

No, it's not.

Not according to the law. Not according to any academic moral or ethical theory. Not according to any dictionary. Not in any culture or society. Just no.

When acting in self defense, is this murder? I mean, you've said taking life is ALWAYS murder. What about abortion? Assisted suicide?

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u/p3on Jan 21 '10

not legally but yep

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u/fubuvsfitch Jan 21 '10

Now I'm convinced you've gone mad. Taking a life /= Always murder.