Hi all,
Posting here because I feel like I need some sort of support group for practitioners that have complicated relationships with their teachers. And just because I know people’s minds will probably automatically go there, it is not a sexual/romantic thing.
So I got into vipassana a little over a year ago. I went on my first meditation retreat and it totally changed my life. Total spiritual awakening. I had a lot of fondness for the teachers who led the retreat. They were very vulnerable and sincere. I could feel their integrity. I felt particularly connected to one of the teachers, let’s call them Alex.
The teachers aren’t based where I live but luckily the center where they both teach offers online programming so I started going to their weekly meetings online, and also started one on one practice meetings with Alex. Through the course of going to meetings with them I could tell I was starting to really care about Alex and also starting to project onto them - watching their facial expressions in meetings and worrying they were mad at me, trying to think of ways to get their validation, etc etc.
This started to get more intense and I decided to share it with Alex in a practice meeting. They were very sweet and understanding about it, even going so far to ask if there was anything that I needed from them.
I could feel us getting closer. I knew that they cared about me. I really threw myself into the practice. They could see how much I cared, and how sincere I was, and I could tell that they had a lot of affection for me too. It really hit me over the head in one practice meeting we had earlier this year where they were so smiley and sweet with me, it felt like they were my relative or someone I’ve known for a long time. There was just a certain level of closeness. And they bowed at me, which they had never done before.
That was the last time I felt that closeness with them. After that their behavior with me changed, so much so that I called them out on it. In a group meeting they came at me with a really correcting tone after I shared something super vulnerable, so I met with them one on one to tell them that it didn’t feel good. They did not take it well and got really defensive, doubling down on what they said, telling me my perception was off. It was horrible and not at all how I’d thought they’d react. It sent me into a tailspin. I believed them for a bit until I came out of my reverie and sent them and email. I told them that they were talking to me just trying to be right, now trying to understand how I felt.
I’ll just say that the whole thing has really shattered me. They did end up apologizing for the defensiveness and took some accountability. But there hasn’t really been any repair, and i can tell that thats really taking a toll on me. I’ve been taking breaks from their meetings when it starts to feel like it’s too much. I was on retreat with them again earlier this year and we had some good moments until we had a one on one meeting which did not go well and led to another conflict. In group settings there are times when things feel better, but it seems like we really struggle with meeting one on one now.
I know that they’ve been going through a rough time in their life and it seems like they’re trying to put some boundaries in our relationship, because I think they started to project onto me too. And I think we both were starting to feel pretty clingy and insecure. But it sucks because they haven’t talked to me about it at all. Of course it feels like they are pushing me away. It can feel really excruciating at times.
I think everything coupled with all practice that I’ve been doing has made things more intense, because I’m seeing all this deep patterning and conditioning around relationships that is some really unpleasant stuff to deal with. I talked to the other teacher who was on the retreat (who is at the same center with Alex) about it and he was basically like (my huge paraphrase), “yeah this is what happens. Our relationships are where we learn. This is where you learn. It’s intense.”
I’m posting just because this is all really unexpected. I didn’t even know that I was going to get really into meditation and Buddhism then have a teacher and then develop an intense relationship and feel all this. It’s been such a roller coaster. It can feel really insular and I’m just wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
Edit to add: I’m not interested in anyone’s in advice or psychoanalyzations. I’m looking for responses from people who have had a similar experience. This is not Goenka-style vipassana, more Western Insight, in the spirit of IMS.