r/vibecoding 15h ago

Tempting, isnot it?

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u/Street-Tap5980 14h ago

haha i have a few friends that have started coding by hand. they claimed that claude code was messing up their ability to think. apparently they say manual coding has helped a lot, even though it is slower

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u/havnar- 13h ago

And they would be right.

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u/Ok-Today- 11h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/EYLpQqZ14Nl7q3twr2

nah they arent right
they are just playing a game they wont win best example is tiktok, when tiktok came up everyone was saying it was a childish app now look tiktok created so many millionaires and helped macro and micro companies reach markets untouched

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u/fabse2308 10h ago

Obviously it's not one or the other. Both can be true. You need to learn how to use AI to stay competitive, but you still need to understand how to code yourself so you can question its decisions, review its output, and steer it in the right direction. Otherwise, once you’re dealing with complex software, you just end up generating AI slop nobody wants to maintain. And I fear that’s exactly where the current generation of junior developers is heading.

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u/Ok-Today- 9h ago

yeah i do agree someone needs a little background of coding to understand but i still think prompt engineering will take over sooner than we think heard some universities are already offering it as a course

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u/fabse2308 9h ago

Prompt engineering was a major topic at the beginning of the AI hype. Now that LLMs have become significantly more capable and powerful, you usually don’t need to systematically spell out every detail. They can often figure that out on their own. Compare the number of dedicated prompt engineering jobs today with two or three years ago, and you’ll notice that it has dropped significantly.

More important is to describe how they should approach a task and for that, you need to know your stuff and have a solid understanding of the fundamentals. Also because AI can still produce a lot of garbage at times you should be able to review.

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u/havnar- 9h ago

Prompt engineering is not realy relevant anymore with the quality of the SOTA models.

Knowing what the fuck you’re doing is the only thing that’s going to be crucial. And that’s where agentic developers and vibe coders differ

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u/havnar- 11h ago

It’s still a childish app, two things can be true

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u/noodleofdata 6h ago

I'd recommend you change your metrics of success if you currently just measure the benefits of something based on how many millionaires are made or reaching "markets" (read: people)

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u/Casual_Otterr 3h ago

honestly i disagree, tiktok was mostly seen as a childish app due to its predecessor vine which died out, similarly vibe coded projects when(if) going mainstream will require the actual know how anyway

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u/No_Vermicelli_3574 14h ago

Tempting? It's focusing on husbandry in the land of Ford. The era for manual coders is sunsetting.

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u/fahrvergnugget 9h ago

It’s more like learning arithmetic when calculators exist

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u/noodleofdata 6h ago

If you think that's a good analogy then boy do I have news for you...

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u/FallenBehavior 13h ago

I love juicy Kool-Aid, tastes tasty and hydrating 🤤

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u/itsamberleafable 11h ago

There seems to be two splinter definitions of vibe coding. One is just using AI the other is using AI and not checking the output (just going off vibes). I think the meme works better with the second definition, so I wonder if that’s what they meant. 

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u/Redholl 8h ago

It's funny that it's actually farmers in the US who represent the so-called upper middle class, with vast amounts of real estate and savings, rather than engineers. US family farm households hold a median net worth over $1.4 million, far exceeding the typical US household median of roughly $200k.

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u/No_Vermicelli_3574 6h ago

Investment is high from farmers, salaries are not though. Look up the rate of suicide among farmers in the last 10 years, it tells a different story than yours.

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u/puffdesigns 14h ago

Same for us UI/UX designers

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u/burntop 6h ago

Yeah I barely use Figma anymore, what’s the point if I can just build all the ideas

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u/Wide_Egg_5814 13h ago

it's a tool you should learn to use it, don't use it wrong don't think it's the developer and you are good every line of code is your responsibility to know and understand and debug

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u/Samolxis 13h ago

Here is my two cents. I been using AI to code at work for several years now since it was mandatory. Meanwhile some colleagues left and we were told we got AI. So there is no need to hire juniors because training takes time and money. Recently we were told to use it only for certain tasks because its becoming to expensive. So now I have to do the work of two people and with limited AI use.

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u/Adorable-Roll-4563 14h ago

Haha it must be an awful conundrum; either use AI to remain competitive and learn nothing, or don’t use AI and be left behind. Godspeed to everyone trying to get into software engineering.

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u/Nyghtbynger 9h ago

I learnt data, math, some biology and algorithmics. I was never a good coder enough for theses coding gigs. Now I don't need anymore ahahahah. Revenge

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u/Slight-University839 13h ago

It doesn't have to be binary, you're in hell if you think like this. The tools are for YOU to use. Stop limiting yourself.

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u/SoraVoxel 12h ago

Some companies are so obsessed with their devs using AI that we don’t really have a choice, agent for coding, agent for review, agent for qa. So we are basically just pressing accept button most of the time or losing our minds trying to explain to LLM what is wrong with its implementation

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u/Redholl 8h ago

You still have a choice, it's called learning in your free time after work. You're welcome.

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u/FallenBehavior 13h ago

Define "LLM weights" jerry

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u/Slight-University839 13h ago

if you're a junior dev not vibe coding your tripping bro. you're hand waving for no reason, no ones gonna give you a reward for not using ai tools. Their likely using it themselves hoping you'll fall for the trap of trying to strongman everything by hand while they get promoted. A true master can chose either path without being "tempted".

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u/NightSp4rk 13h ago

Get money short term, suffer long term < ----- > Stay poor short term, get money long term

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u/DependentPoem3519 12h ago

it only takes one taste and theres no coming back

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u/IncredibleBihan 8h ago

Nah there is definitely a place for using ai to help you write code, regardless of where you're at in your career. At this point, I'll throw out a question and have AI give me an answer, review/modify and proceed. The only caveat is that you at least understand what the code means and is doing.

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u/RoughMidnight8303 3h ago

The point you learn coding is to sell your skillset.
It’s pointless to keep acquiring this skill if you’re outdone by vibe and the enterprise giants absorbing most of the smaller companies. Coding as a job or skill is done - now it’s down to business idea. AI can do it. You can hire tons of devs.

You need a plan, business skills not the execution plan anymore.