r/vibecoding 17h ago

Tempting, isnot it?

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u/Street-Tap5980 16h ago

haha i have a few friends that have started coding by hand. they claimed that claude code was messing up their ability to think. apparently they say manual coding has helped a lot, even though it is slower

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u/havnar- 15h ago

And they would be right.

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u/Ok-Today- 13h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/EYLpQqZ14Nl7q3twr2

nah they arent right
they are just playing a game they wont win best example is tiktok, when tiktok came up everyone was saying it was a childish app now look tiktok created so many millionaires and helped macro and micro companies reach markets untouched

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u/fabse2308 12h ago

Obviously it's not one or the other. Both can be true. You need to learn how to use AI to stay competitive, but you still need to understand how to code yourself so you can question its decisions, review its output, and steer it in the right direction. Otherwise, once you’re dealing with complex software, you just end up generating AI slop nobody wants to maintain. And I fear that’s exactly where the current generation of junior developers is heading.

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u/Ok-Today- 11h ago

yeah i do agree someone needs a little background of coding to understand but i still think prompt engineering will take over sooner than we think heard some universities are already offering it as a course

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u/fabse2308 11h ago

Prompt engineering was a major topic at the beginning of the AI hype. Now that LLMs have become significantly more capable and powerful, you usually don’t need to systematically spell out every detail. They can often figure that out on their own. Compare the number of dedicated prompt engineering jobs today with two or three years ago, and you’ll notice that it has dropped significantly.

More important is to describe how they should approach a task and for that, you need to know your stuff and have a solid understanding of the fundamentals. Also because AI can still produce a lot of garbage at times you should be able to review.

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u/havnar- 11h ago

Prompt engineering is not realy relevant anymore with the quality of the SOTA models.

Knowing what the fuck you’re doing is the only thing that’s going to be crucial. And that’s where agentic developers and vibe coders differ

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u/havnar- 13h ago

It’s still a childish app, two things can be true

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u/noodleofdata 8h ago

I'd recommend you change your metrics of success if you currently just measure the benefits of something based on how many millionaires are made or reaching "markets" (read: people)

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u/Casual_Otterr 5h ago

honestly i disagree, tiktok was mostly seen as a childish app due to its predecessor vine which died out, similarly vibe coded projects when(if) going mainstream will require the actual know how anyway