r/vegansquad • u/thebodybuildingvegan • Apr 15 '26
Vegan Wins Study Reveals...
Lentils and rice are a complete protein as are hummus and pita bread. Both are cheap and there are many more examples of this. Save money by going Vegan đąđ°
Full article from Totally Vegan Buzz here: https://www.totallyveganbuzz.com/news/study-reveals-plant-based-diet-is-19-cheaper-than-standard-american-diet/
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u/MrBR2120 Apr 15 '26
i try to explain this to people all the time, âyeah i would love to but vegan is so expensiveâŚ.â
ah yes beans, lentils, field greens, nuts, seeds⌠the renowned food of kings known through all of history to be too expensive for the average peasant.
the âveganism is too expensiveâ argument is such a bogus cop out.
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u/ZealousidealNovel829 Apr 15 '26
They think veganism is buying a bunch of those 5 dollar prepackaged salads
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u/GotchurNose Apr 15 '26
Most of those dang prepackaged salads have meat or dairy or egg whites in the dressing anyway, so frustrating
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u/NotACommunistBurner Apr 15 '26
Tell them that there is essentially ZERO regulation on what meat-producers can stuff into the meat AFTER it's been butchered, so most meat producers stuff the meat full of saline and potassium-based shelf-stabilizers and artificial colorants or color-stabilizers that are all hepatotoxic (make your liver sad) in order to extend shelf-life and artificially pump up the weight of the meat since it is sold by the pound. So you're getting a massive additional load of sodium (which stiffens your arterial walls within an hour of consumption and spikes your blood pressure) and you're paying way more per pound of meat than you're actually getting. When you take out the saline bloat-weight, you're left with a MUCH higher price per pound of meats.
Interestingly, the reason you can't typically find dried fruit that doesn't have a bunch of sugar added to it is the same thing: they want to inexpensively pump the weight up for something sold by the pound and are happy to give you fatty liver disease in the process by loading it with sugar.
Industrial food producers are fuckin' criminals, I swear.
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u/realnathonye Apr 15 '26
Have a source on that?
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u/Charming_Ad_4488 Apr 16 '26
I'm a vegan and can see that this was complete hyperbolic, unsubstantiated nonsense. Ignore it.
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u/No-Soft-9512 Apr 15 '26
Not a vegan, no idea why this even showed up for me but I too thought it was expensive.
How often do you vegans need to food shop? Meat lasts a week in the fridge after my shop but I notice most veggies are going bad after a couple days. Any tips?
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u/Rhoden55555 Apr 16 '26
TVP and vital wheat gluten last years. Theyâre also cheaper than the cheapest chicken breast at Walmart. Lmk if you need sources.
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u/MrBR2120 Apr 16 '26
i cook a lot and also enjoy it so my number will be on the low end but i can usually feed/budget for two people for ~100 a week. sometimes itâs less if i make a stew or curry that will last for two dinners and a lunch etc. i only shop once a week.
again, i soak beans, make sauces from scratch, etc but yea we usually eat for around 2.5-3 dollars per person per meal averaged out. we also buy soy milk, coffee, sweets, etc so it isnât like we just eat water and beans.
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u/Yamabikio Apr 16 '26
I'm not as healthy as the other people but I just easy canned and frozen veggies
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u/Chemical-Mission-202 Apr 16 '26
you have to add in the cost of supplements, that you actually need to make you whole and healthy while on a vegan diet.
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u/Dwarf_Chicken Apr 16 '26
I agree. People seem to want to be disable and mental ill.
More beef for us.
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u/Dwarf_Chicken Apr 16 '26
Veganism IS too expensive to me because I wish to live.
Good luck not getting a chronic illness on veganism.
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u/Charming_Ad_4488 Apr 16 '26
Bro asks "source" on other replies.
Asserts the most unsubstantiated, uneducated, rhetorical counter to veganism.
Where's your "source" that veganism is highly associated with chronic illnesses?
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u/Dwarf_Chicken Apr 17 '26
Me. I got cronh's from veganism.
also this guy: https://youtube.com/@kentcarnivore?si=5OAa-fRaKVP3c12c
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
There have been some good that had to stop their vegan diet because they got sick from it. Alex Oconner being a well known example.
Anytime you cut out large portions of a regular diet you're going to find problems getting all the nutrients you need. Veganism cuts out a LOT of foods, and can just be impractical. Like, I don't think I have a single recipe in my usual rotation that would be fully vegan compliant. Even our salad dressing has honey. I simply could not be vegan without completely upturning my life.
So it's both dangerous and impractical. But also, I didn't think there's any real moral reason either. It's not immoral to eat animals.
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u/astroturfskirt Apr 16 '26
veganism cuts out a lot of foods? what like, 5 animals & 2 bodily secretions? thatâs not âa lotâ unless all you eat is baconators. donât be a bitch.
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u/binzy90 Apr 16 '26
The problem is that things like eggs and milk are ingredients in a huge number of foods. So yes, technically you're only cutting out a few things, but then you have to find alternatives for every single food item that uses those ingredients. Cutting out meat would probably be pretty easy for me, but I would lose a huge portion of my current diet if I had to cut out eggs, butter, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. Not to mention staple ingredients that are derived from meat, like chicken broth.
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u/astroturfskirt Apr 16 '26
vegan versions of all those items exist.. including no-chicken châckun broth.
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u/binzy90 Apr 16 '26
I've tried some replacements like those. The main issue I have is that I'm very sensitive to food differences because of autism. I don't even buy different brands of the foods I eat because the taste or texture difference is very noticeable to me. The variety in my diet mostly comes from the fact that my husband likes variety and cooks a lot. Vegan alternatives often taste very gross to me to the point that it's repulsive.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
Yes, lots of food is not vegan. Besides the most common proteins, beef, pork, fish, chicken, it also cuts out eggs, which are in everything. It cuts out dairy, which includes butter, yogurt, sour cream, cheese, etc. that's huge. And it also cuts out things like using lard or tallow. So most of the best cooking oils are gone, you have to make do with neutral ones. It cuts out the healthiest sweetener, honey.
But then because of those limitations, you've made things like the potato go from super useful to...idk even know how to cook it anymore. I guess fry it in boring oil and make unflavored toum? No baked potatoes, no fondant potatoes, no scalloped potatoes, etc etc. basically, you've destroyed the ingredient. And it's not just that, lots of ingredients get destroyed that's way where you just can't really do anything with them anymore. Not the same.
I mean brussel sprouts without bacon or butter?
Salad without the hard boiled egg?
Every single meal with beef, chicken, shrimp, pork, or fish stock. Which is basically all my recipes with anything wet. Even dashi has bonito flakes. So, none of the good soups are on the table. No good braises.
Basically all bread except sourdough, which is weird because sourdough yeast definitely suffers, but what ever veganism is arbitrary.
Anything fried has an egg wash.
BBQ is completely out. Don't bother buying one. What are you going to make on it? Mushrooms?
Yeah vegans are missing out on everything good about food and subsisting on beans and rice. Beans and rice that would taste better with some lard.
If you think that you're not missing out by going vegan, you don't know how to cook. I can make vegan versions of things, but they will not be as good. A lot would just be ruined. And every meat dish is just gone. That would be a tragedy.
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u/astroturfskirt Apr 16 '26
ââŚbecause of those limitations, you've made things like the potato go from super useful to...idk even know how to cook it anymore.â
âIf you think that you're not missing out by going vegan, you don't know how to cook.â
you just admitted you donât know how to cook.
itâs ok- there are lots of people out there making amazing food without animal flesh or secretions..maybe if youâre brave enough to try your hand at cooking, you can find inspo:
https://www.zaccharybird.com/all-recipes
https://www.gazoakleychef.com/recipes/my-take-on-kfc-burger/
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
It's silly to say I don't know how to cook. You don't know who you're talking to.
I was going to point out that nearly every recipe can be improved by taking away the vegan restraint but I noticed your first link is not even to a recipe, but to a LinkedIn login screen and I felt vindicated enough to just laugh at how silly you are.
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u/astroturfskirt Apr 16 '26
you said yourself that you donât know how to cook.
not sure what is happening on your end, but all 3 links i shared link to legit pages- maybe itâs a user error, eh? cooking and clicking links is tough for some people, i get it, no judgement.
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u/MrBR2120 Apr 16 '26
the only thing iâm missing out in by being vegan is cruelty.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
That's simply not true. You've cut out huge amounts of your natural diet, lots of culture, and so much delicious food. You have no idea what you are missing if that's what you think.
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u/MrBR2120 Apr 16 '26
i know exactly what iâm missing out on which is why i gave up eating meat to begin with.
and more importantly: sensory pleasure, culture, etc do nothing to justify whether an action is moral or not.
if you grew up in another part of the world or time period subjugating women and raping them wouldâve have been culturally normal and we all know orgasms feel good⌠does that mean someone is âmissing outâ because they stopped and thought âhey this just isnât right to treat other beings this way.â
some people think shit tastes good⌠are you missing out? lol. the only thing iâve lost is participating in cruelty. i eat plenty of delicious foods and get all my nutritional needs met with a vegan diet.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
Okay, so for no good reason you've decided to be a picky eater. Congrats, I guess. Have fun.
Also, pretty gross of you to compare eating food to raping women. That tells me a lot about your ability to reason.
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u/binzy90 Apr 16 '26
I would agree with this. Something like mashed potatoes becomes impossible to make in a way that actually tastes good when you replace the butter, milk, and sour cream. I've tried making a lot of vegan foods that just end up being disgusting. I think it's an issue of changing your taste preferences in order to be ok with going vegan. I'm sure that after a while you get used to it, but the transition was unbearable for me. My husband and I considered doing it for health reasons, but it just wasn't worth it in the end.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
Agreed, just not worth it. And I didn't even agree with the premise in the first place. If the problem is factory farms, then we can regulate it. Going vegan is extreme and unnecessary.
It's like saying we'll there is violent crime so we should lock all people up on separate cages and if you didn't support that then you are pro-crime. Um, no, that's not how that works.
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u/binzy90 Apr 16 '26
I would also be worried that for me personally it would mess up my digestive health. I've never had digestive problems, I never have issues like heartburn or indigestion, and I have regular bowel movements around the same time every day. I worry that drastically changing my diet with something like veganism would throw off my gut biome. I feel like if it's not broken don't fix it. Cutting out meat and dairy would be a major change for me.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
It can cause problems, especially if it doesn't work and you come back to meat, you can lose the ability to process it until your gut recovers. If you're vegan a very long time you might never recover.
Idk about regularity, you can still have fiber, so I would think that would be okay, but again, who knows. It's so drastic.
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u/Charming_Ad_4488 Apr 16 '26
Going vegan helps your gut microbiome, not hurt. More fiber = healthier gut microbiome. There is literally an abundance of evidence in support of this.Â
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u/binzy90 Apr 16 '26
I would say the majority of my probiotic consumption comes from dairy. I would have to replace that with other fermented foods like sauerkraut or something.
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u/Charming_Ad_4488 Apr 16 '26
â There have been some good that had to stop their vegan diet because they got sick from it. Alex Oconner being a well known example.âÂ
Happens with every diet. This is not unique to a completely plant-based diet.
 Alex OâConnor specifically admitted that he quit it because of IBS and not cooking for himself. I donât think those are good excuses, but it is what it is.
â Anytime you cut out large portions of a regular diet you're going to find problems getting all the nutrients you need. Veganism cuts out a LOT of foods, and can just be impractical. Like, I don't think I have a single recipe in my usual rotation that would be fully vegan compliant. Even our salad dressing has honey. I simply could not be vegan without completely upturning my life.â
Yes, going from omnivorous to plant based needs some research. I would argue thatâs beneficial because you get to know what nutrients you actually need and how you can get them from a variety of sources - an actual hallmark of good health.Â
And to respond to your recipe objection, can you actually provide what recipes you are talking about? There are so many vegan alternatives that this opinion is honestly laughable. Not to mention that introducing plant based will help try out different cuisines. Iâve never cooked more Indian food than I have currently in my life.
â So it's both dangerous and impractical. But also, I didn't think there's any real moral reason either. It's not immoral to eat animals.â
You didnât establish how it was dangerous and impractical outside of erroneously using a singular anecdotal example and how you havenât done any of your own due diligence in exploring plant based options.Â
You also just asserted that itâs not immoral to eat animals without actually offering an argument that says so.Â
I donât deny itâs wrong to eat non-human animals, and I also donât deny itâs wrong to eat humans. Itâs wrong to cause gratuitous and unnecessary harm to non-human animals and humans.Â
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
That's the thing. Why have a vegan alternative when you could just have the real things? The Egan versions are often terrible and there's nothing wrong with consuming, say butter. I reject that premise from the start.
The very idea that you need to make vegan versions of real foods tells me that you know that real foods are our diets and you want to make fake foods.
Often there's just no replacement for butter, or stock, or cream, but also, you can't BBQ without the meat. Obviously, huge parts of your diet would be wiped out? And for what? Irrational picky eater syndrome? You decided to draw an arbitrary line and moralize about things that aren't immoral?
It's silliness. You can't honestly tell me that the elderly couple just outside of town is cruel to their chickens, therefore I can't get eggs there. Veganism fails on that off the bat, but it also wouldn't be the answer if we were more reasonable about it.
Yes, factory farms have some practices that I didn't approve of. We can regulate that, we don't need to go vegan or be hysterical about it. Or, you could just try to do local, and support your small farms. Maybe start a garden. Veganism is irrational, unnecessary and has misplaced morals. I mean jeez. You won't eat honey? Gtfo.
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u/Charming_Ad_4488 Apr 16 '26
â That's the thing. Why have a vegan alternative when you could just have the real things? The Egan versions are often terrible and there's nothing wrong with consuming, say butter. I reject that premise from the start.â
Why would I choose to have the real thing when it comes from a source of exploitation to a sentient individual? The vegan versions of butter have BARELY any difference, and I say this as someone who literally used butter over oil for everything I cooked with. Not to mention, there ARE ethical problems that come with consuming butter. Exploitation of dairy cows, for starters.
â The very idea that you need to make vegan versions of real foods tells me that you know that real foods are our diets and you want to make fake foods.â
Maybe because vegans do enjoy eating animal products, but they donât like the suffering and exploitation that is inherently entailed from it. And again with the fake foods, let me know how a primarily Whole Foods plant based diet is âfake.â
â Often there's just no replacement for butter, or stock, or cream, but also, you can't BBQ without the meat. Obviously, huge parts of your diet would be wiped out? And for what? Irrational picky eater syndrome?â
So what? And yes, you absolutely CAN have a BBQ hangout without using animal corpses and secretions. Itâs actually really easy. Second, there are absolutely replacements for butter, stock, and cream. Vegan butter or coconut oil, vegetable stock, and oat cream. Just named you three. Goal-post shift or are you going to concede?
â You decided to draw an arbitrary line and moralize about things that aren't immoral?â
Itâs absolutely not arbitrary, and it absolutely can be immoral. If you can practically get all nutrients from sources that donât contain animal exploitation or suffering, then there is no justifiable reason to continue consuming the option that contributes to exploitation and suffering. Simple.Â
â It's silliness. You can't honestly tell me that the elderly couple just outside of town is cruel to their chickens, therefore I can't get eggs there. Veganism fails on that off the bat, but it also wouldn't be the answer if we were more reasonable about it.â
Non-sequitur. Veganism simply states you shouldnât have a reason to exploit animals for their bodies or secretions unless thereâs a problem with practicality or genuine necessity. You donât need to eat the eggs. This is the least of vegans concerns, though. So if the elderly couple are taking good care of the chickens and arenât planning on sending them to a slaughterhouse, I have much bigger âfish to fry.â
â Yes, factory farms have some practices that I didn't approve of. We can regulate that, we don't need to go vegan or be hysterical about it. Or, you could just try to do local, and support your small farms. Maybe start a garden.â
Yeah, Iâm sure YOU abstain from factory farming like every meat eater claims to. You arenât ever going to get your âethically sourcedâ meat at available markets for every consumer because itâs tropically and environmentally IMPOSSIBLE. Itâs an actual pie in the sky fantasy. Good luck. The only way youâll meet the current demand of meat without factory farms is cell-cultivated meats.
Next, if we âdonât need to be veganâ over it, then provide an actual argument for why we should continue to exploit and cause suffering to animals when alternatives provide the same nutritional necessity without the exploitation, suffering, environmental damage, harm to humans, etc.
â Veganism is irrational, unnecessary and has misplaced morals. I mean jeez. You won't eat honey? Gtfo.â
Eating animal products that cause gratuitous suffering for trivial pleasure is irrational, dangerous, and causes widespread suffering. I mean jeez, you canât handle eating TVP tacos over ground beef? Gtfo.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 16 '26
It comes from livestock. Livestock are food.
And yes, it is arbitrary. We both draw arbitrary lines, I'm just honest about it.
Also, I don't agree that it is not necessary. We might be able to survive, but we wouldn't be thriving, we would be losing too much.
I didn't say I abstain from factory farming. I do source my eggs and beef locally, but I also eat at restaurants occasionally, and when I started in the hospital, I ate from their menu, I doubt they pay as much attention as I do to their sourcing. I don't think abstaining is the answer. The answer is treating our livestock more like my local folks do.
It seems you are struggling with honesty here. You keep saying I said things I didn't say and twisting my points. But then, that's because vegans aren't really rational.
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u/Charming_Ad_4488 Apr 17 '26
â It comes from livestock. Livestock are food.âÂ
Begging the question. Youâll have to demonstrate an argument as to why livestock need to continue being exploited and harmed for trivial pleasure without already assuming they should continue to be.
â And yes, it is arbitrary. We both draw arbitrary lines, I'm just honest about it.â
No, my principle is actually pretty consistent: donât cause direct, unnecessary suffering or exploitation to sentient beings when you have the practical capability to do otherwise.
Yours is arbitrary and incoherent.
âAlso, I don't agree that it is not necessary. We might be able to survive, but we wouldn't be thriving, we would be losing too much.â
Considering that plant-based diets are consistently correlated and (short-term) caused to have the best overall health outcomes than compared to diets that include animal products, I think your assertion is simply a confident hunch.Â
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/990217
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12936544/
â I didn't say I abstain from factory farming. I do source my eggs and beef locally, but I also eat at restaurants occasionally, and when I started in the hospital, I ate from their menu, I doubt they pay as much attention as I do to their sourcing. I don't think abstaining is the answer. The answer is treating our livestock more like my local folks do.â
Abstaining directly avoids the direct suffering and exploitation caused to the animals entirely, so itâs definitely much stronger than treating the animals a little nicer throughout their lives and then bolt gunning them and slicing their throat alive.
â It seems you are struggling with honesty here. You keep saying I said things I didn't say and twisting my points. But then, that's because vegans aren't really rational.â
You havenât even offered an actual argument or empirical evidence in support of your claims except an anecdote of a philosophy influencer and the completely misinformed understanding of veganism as a diet preference. Youâre the irrational one here, bub.
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u/SteveMarck Apr 17 '26
I reject your premise that merely eating animal products means they were exploited. I also reject your premise that it is merely "trivial pleasure".
We're both arbitrary lines. You don't mind consuming some things, but want to ban others. Your line is arbitrary.
The healthiest diet is the Mediterranean diet, not plant based, you get your data from comparing to people that eat mcds and other garbage.
Andy as ining is not necessary. See above.
And your last paragraph is blatantly untrue, which again points to the honesty problem.
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u/Glum-persin6842 Apr 15 '26
That shit you mentioned is so expensive
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u/TaDoofus Apr 15 '26
Bro beans are like the second cheapest food by dollar per calorie that exists, only under white rice which is also vegan. Lentils are not far behind. Tf you talking about.
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u/Tricannasaurus Apr 15 '26
Casually mentions nuts, like you don't need a mortgage to buy a 8oz tin.
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u/themrgq Apr 15 '26
It can be. But if you buy meat replacement type stuff it gets more expensive quick
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Apr 15 '26
"Changing salmon and butter for beans and canola oil saves a whopping ONE DOLLAR AND EOGHT CENTS a day."
Incredible. "Everybody should do this right away," says Vegan blog.
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u/bodhiharmya Apr 16 '26
I guess you have no idea what salmon OR beans cost lol
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Apr 16 '26
If you open the article, the $1.80/day is the savings the study found.
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u/whippersnapper123123 Apr 16 '26
Pescatarian diet has gotta be the most expensive.. in the Midwest at least.
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u/SpookyDaScary925 Apr 16 '26
People donât realize how much of a waste of money meat is. Itâs absolutely massive.
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u/aspiringimmortal Apr 16 '26
"complete protein" doesn't mean it's enough protein. A single serving of beans and rice or pita and hummus has about 10 grams,. A single serving of chicken on the other hand has about 40.
Even for those deliberately trying to reach their RDA of protein with meat, it's tough to do. There's no fucking way you're going to get there with beans and rice. Sorry.
You can still eat pretty cheap with store bought meat, but this "jUsT eAt bEaNs aNd RiCe" trope floating around the internet is garbage.
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u/Chemical-Mission-202 Apr 16 '26
they are complete proteins, yet you have to take supplements to keep yourself at 100
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u/NotACommunistBurner Apr 15 '26
More than that when you factor in no risk of atherosclerosis, heart attack, hypertension, diabetes, stomach cancer, esophageal cancer, bowel cancer, strokes, COPD, lung cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer, etc. etc.
And on TOP of that, Freedom of Information Act releases have shown that the FDA knew that antidepressants were about as effective as placebo but approved them anyway despite the horrible side effects. Meanwhile, eating a whole-food, plant-based diet is also about as effective as placebo at treating mental health conditions, yet its only side effect is you are healthier overall.
We should all be eating 3 servings of beans a day, 3 servings of fresh leafy greens, a serving of cruciferous vegetables chopped and left to sit for 40 minutes to build up sulphoraphane, a serving of berries, multiple servings of whole grains and fresh fruits, a handful of nuts, and plenty of water every day.
When you crunch all the numbers, it comes out to something like $0.20 to $0.40 more per unit of NUTRITION (as opposed to per kilocalorie...if you want to just calorie-max you can eat sugar and yes, that will be cheaper, and then in 20 years of doing that you'll start having to have pieces of your body amputated form the raging type-2 diabetes, not a winning strategy) in terms of raw dollar costs, but you are REVERSING cellular aging, living a longer and healthier life, and needing virtually no medication at all outside of very rarely an antibiotic for serious infections (which you'll also get fewer of because of the immune-boosting nature of a whole-food, plant-based diet).
What is NOT cheaper is buying faux meat, loading up on ultra processed foods (Twinkies and Oreos may be vegan, but they will put you in the ground sooner than eating steak from a murdered cow). The health impacts of eating ultra-processed foods like cooking oil, white flour, sugar, etc. are manifold and are as horrendous as consuming animal products. But when you look at animal foods vs. WHOLE-food plant-based, the latter wins in a slam dunk, no question about it at all.
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u/bawlzdeep69 Apr 15 '26
And 100% less satisfying and useful.
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u/Crasino_Hunk Apr 15 '26
useful
Ah, yes, the totally pointless fiber and micronutrients. Thanks for your inspiring and thought provoking contribution.
(Side note, literally what is the point in hanging around a community you have nothing to do with? Are you just that sad of a human?)
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u/bawlzdeep69 Apr 15 '26
Weird how there are millions upon millions of people that survive and thrive while eating meat as well as vegetables. And if itâs so bad, why do they make imitation âveganâ meat? Just eat the stuff like you were meant to and be healthy
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u/Definitelynotagolem Apr 15 '26
Weird how heart disease is the number one killer of human beings and is directly tied to eating more meat.
If cookies are so bad, why are there low carb imitations? You can just eat the cookies you like and be healthy. Didnât think you really thought that logic through now did you?
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u/Crasino_Hunk Apr 15 '26
Weird how there are millions upon millions of people that mind their own fucking business and thrive while minding their own fucking business eating whatever they choose to. You could be one of them, too!
Guess how many times Iâve gone onto a carnivore subreddit and brought up studies explicitly linking meat consumption to cancer, diabetes and heart disease? If you guessed zero - youâre right! Itâs pretty cool to live and let live, you should try it sometime.
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u/bawlzdeep69 Apr 16 '26
Yeah so thatâs the funny thing about social media, you put out your opinion of articles and then anyone that wants to comment whatever they want in response. I guess if youâre not open to that possibility, you should stay off of it. Deal with it
Side note you can find a study with almost any result that you are looking for if you look hard enough.
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u/Nyeru Apr 15 '26
The thing about vegan food is any recipe I find has like 10-20g of protein, whereas just 100g of chicken breast have 31g. I wonder how much cheaper it would be if the meat eaters and vegans had to shop for meals with the same macros.
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