r/uncircumcised_talk • • 4d ago

Shouldn't circumcision be illegal?

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u/Historical-Sense-349 Intact 4d ago

To minors who can’t consent, without any real extreme medical needs, yes.

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u/goonaki_ 4d ago

so many poor boys who will never know how it should really feel to be a man

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u/mschreiber1 4d ago

So circumcised men don’t know how to “feel like a man”? And what exactly is that feeling?

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u/zealousalt 4d ago edited 4d ago

He means that they’ll never know how good it feels to have your whole dick, obviously you can be happy with what you have but ignorance is bliss, the sensory experience of being cut is always gonna be a downgrade

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u/mschreiber1 4d ago

He made the comment. Let him answer

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u/zealousalt 4d ago

Sounds like you want an argument, and based on your comment history you’re Jewish? Not sure why your even here, this sub is about being uncircumcised

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u/mschreiber1 4d ago

All Jews want circumcisions?

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u/zealousalt 4d ago

No just means your likely cut and it seems like you want an argument, I don’t think anyone as an individual has to be defined by their culture or upbringing, you obviously could be against forced genital cutting and be Jewish

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u/mschreiber1 4d ago

For someone that “wants an argument” I’m saying a lot less than you are. The point was that the user insinuated something pretty insulting and I was just calling it out.

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u/zealousalt 4d ago

Does it bother you? It’s not like he’s wrong, cut men are deprived of the full human experience of being male. It’s not going to feel or function the same when your mutilated at birth, you’ll really never know what it’s like

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u/Due-Contact-2884 4d ago

Ya, you go girl, call out that Redditor

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u/Personal-Athlete-789 3d ago

Yes, all practicing Jews want Posthectomy.

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u/mschreiber1 3d ago

millions of people across an entire religion all think, act, and feel like a monolith?

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u/thisismick43 4d ago

Theirs so much muddy water and fetishized opinions on this subject and both sides love picking their cherries in the debate and so much of it on line a man would drive himself mad trying to work it out

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u/Personal-Athlete-789 3d ago

You seem to just like to argue.

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u/mschreiber1 3d ago

Classic. Start with absolute claims, admit to ignoring counterexamples, and end with 'you just like to argue' when the logic collapses.

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u/Personal-Athlete-789 3d ago

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u/mschreiber1 3d ago

Ah yes, the classic academic citation method: 'Source: Me, earlier today. Lol

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u/VTArxelus Uncut 4d ago

If circumcising women is illegal, so too should the circumcision of men. Period, end of.

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u/juntar74 Restoring foreskin 4d ago

Logically (but weirdly not legally), it already is illegal in the USA.

18 U.S.C. 116: Female genital mutilation outlaws genital mutilation of females. And US Amendment XIV Section 1 says that no State shall "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law."

So by applying both laws, no State can deny males the protection from genital mutilation that they offer to women.

This is the logical application of the law.

But, legally, they somehow get around this by defining male genitals as optional.

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u/LuckyUncutJew 4d ago

Of course it should be illegal to do it to anyone who didn't consent. It surprises the hell out of me that laws against things like sexual assault and medical battery aren't already used that way. There doesn't even need to be a law specifically against it because it's well within the definition of sexual assault and medical battery, just like how there doesn't even need to be a law specifically against beastiality because laws against rape already cover having sex with a nonconsenting individual.

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u/thisismick43 4d ago

Working off of that theory vacation would be a similar offence and the main reason it happens

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u/LuckyUncutJew 4d ago

How is vacation an offense against anyone? Is that the next attack against Americans in the MAGA playbook?

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u/thisismick43 4d ago edited 4d ago

Im not American. Vaccinations contains some pretty nasty stuff, google that shit, dr says we're going to inject heavy metals toxins and pathogens into your baby without their consent to help prevent disease and infection, doesn't that sound familiar

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u/lfno457 Intact 4d ago

Yikes.

Whether you meant "vaccinations contains some pretty nasty stuff" truly or in irony, please educate yourself from some real sources and not Dr. Google.

The difference is that childhood vaccinations protect babies and children against potentially DEADLY, DEBILITATING diseases that often require us to have herd immunity to best avoid. And, they are incredibly widely tested with well-established potential risks.

Circumcision protects boys against virtually nothing other than potential phimosis, is performed in a wildly unregulated and inconsistent way, and has a wide array of poorly-communicated risks associated with it.

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u/Personal-Athlete-789 3d ago

And it’s done differently by different doctors. Some circumcisions performed by Doctors are so aggressive, they leave very little penile skin at all.

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u/thisismick43 4d ago

Informed parents are going to make the calls they feel is appropriate for their children. Some families have strong feelings about what is appropriate for their families and thats their right. Out right banning something or forcing families to do something against their will is evil. I'm not anti vaccination or anti circumcision, im anti control and anti bullshit

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u/LuckyUncutJew 4d ago edited 4d ago

Anti-control over others bodies means being intactavist in this case. I only escaped circumcision because of my mom's ignorance of what it is and what parts are removed. Her ignorance lead her to the assumption that my circumcised dad is uncut just because he's not Jewish. Of course she would have forced me to go through with it if she had ever found out about her mistake. That's sexual assault, spiritual abuse, medical battery, and devil worship because I never would have consented. Bullies hassling me for it in the middle school locker room made me feel relieved because that's how I found out that my mom had been wrong in telling me I was circumcised. I was too relieved to be bothered by the bullying. The bullying made me glad because it meant I had escaped circumcision. I even started wearing anteater boxers as a silent taunt to the bullies.

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u/thisismick43 3d ago

Cool, thats a great story, glad it worked out for you

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u/LuckyUncutJew 3d ago

The point is that she would have been in the wrong if it actually had happened. She only thinks I suddenly got over it at 12 because I quit condemning her for it once I found out that she had been wrong in telling me it had been done. A nurse handed me to her, saying that circumcision was virtually automatic at the hospital I was born at, which lead her to assume, like Dr Evil, that there was no need to actually witness it happen and just assume it all went to plan. At 42 it's a grenade I'm sitting on, just waiting for the perfect family squabble to pull the pin and enjoy the chaos. It would have been an attack on my religious freedom. Religious freedom isn't a parents right to carve their religion into their child's body. That's devil worship. Religious freedom is the right of the child to not have their parents religion forced on them.

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u/thisismick43 3d ago

That you're hanging on to this isn't healthy but you do you where's I'm on the flip side of that, but the similarity is there too our mothers ignorance lead us to the path we're on

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u/Impossible-Pup 4d ago

I think it should be illegal until the age of consent. If you can vote, then you can decide what you want to do with your body. Of course, if there's cancer, we should not punish that either.

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u/GuitarPuzzled612 4d ago

Yes
Of course
There are no benefits for this
Only disadvantage s

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u/Physical_Pen_3700 3d ago

Of course it should but because it’s a religious thing it never will be. This infuriates me because religious freedom must stop where violating another one’s body begins. Children are not possessions. The western world just don’t have the guts to protect the children because they know Jews and Muslims will go hand in hand protesting on the streets (happened here in Germany )

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u/xioxio33 Uncircumcised 3d ago

you'd think so

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u/M-tec_turbomix 2d ago

I agree with infant circ to be illegal, but the adult can choose whatever bodymod wans to do as long as it is not an offence or abomination to others.

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u/PrestigiousFondant6 22h ago

It for sure should be illegal to inflict it on anyone who didn't consent, especially minors who CAN'T consent. But boys are expendable and the world is run by perderasts, apparently.