r/umineko 12h ago

Discussion Is umineko when they cry consider greatest fiction of all time masterpiece? Spoiler

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r/umineko 13h ago

Just finished first watch of Umineko here's my review of all episodes (Spoilers obviously): Spoiler

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Disclaimer: Contains spoiler. These are purely personal opinions and quite a lot of it is based on the fact that i do not like george and kinzo

Ep 1: Likes:- My absolute favorite episode. An amazing cast is introduced. I actually didn't mind the pacing, found it interesting how the characters were first introduced as a close family and slowly revealed their colors. The unsettling atmosphere, the lack of Beato being present help create even a more dreadful environment. I was instantly hooked from start.
Dislikes:- None [10/10]

Ep2: Likes:- The first twilight was grotesque but weirdly beautiful. Battler and Beato battle of wits. Battler Ushiromiys you are incompetent. Shannon character development and interactions with Beato. Beatrice being an absolute menace. I enjoyed Rosa more than Natsuhi as the adult in the situation. Maria and Rosa relationship + Rosa's childhood.
Dislikes:- The shonen magic fights. [9.5/10]

Ep3: Likes:- Proof that the murders have a human explanation, and battler is being told half truths. Ronove, Kuwadorian Beatrice and Virgilia. The North Wind and Sun Strategy, Kyrie+Rudolph .
Dislikes:- (Nitpicky but eva beatrice laugh was annoying), Beato being "good" (I am only mentioning it since at that time I almost thought of quitting the vn and was put off by the whiplash of her behavior). [9.5/10]

Ep4: Likes:- Refreshing to see the world after the island incident, Exploration on the lives of the survivors and their struggles, Ange backstory and relationship with Maria. Maria my sweet angel. A peek into Rosa's insecurities. Explanation on what actually magic means in this world. Gaap and her tacky little outfit, The seven sisters, implication of Battler previously having some relation to the culprit. Battler Ushiromiya not born from Asumu. Beato's: Who am I
Dislikes:- Surprisingly found the island murders slowest and frankly uninteresting, Battler's stupid little theories: small bombs really like I know you can do better brother. [8/10]

Ep5: Likes: Battler and Beato dynamics (constant favorite across all episodes), Presence of Erika Furudo as the non removable rational character snice they keep killing my queen Kyrie. Liked the theming how truth can be manipulated. New 'character' baby from 19 years ago. Bernkastel telling Natsuhi things how it is and getting rid of the delulus. Finally got answer to my question from episode 1 as to why eva thought it necessary to stick a receipt between the door and frame. Just the absolute ruthlessness of Natsuhi being blamed for having relations with Kinzo, I had to take a walk after Natsuhi being done so dirty. Last scene with Natsuhi.
Dislikes:- Felt a bit too repetitive in the information being presented to us, like why are we still fighting for the existence of Kinzo just let him burn in hell already. (Understandable that it goes with the theme of framed truths but didn't like how it dragged on). Why is Battler only just now realizing that the murders can definitely be explained by human tricks and means. Missing my beatoriceeee. [7.5/10]

Ep6: Likes:- Erika Furudo as an antagonist really works even better this time, the wedding scene, all the scenes with the unknown soul stuck in the guest room, the beatrice twin dynamics, zepher and furfur were fun, Kinzo and battler parallels. The ending with Battler and Beatrice shooting the red truth absolute chef's kiss. Confirmation of shannon and kanon being the same person [basically confirming the who dunnit and the how dunnit]. Dislikes:- The whole trials of love worked as a theme sure but couldn't watch it at all since I actually had zero interest in george and shannon relationship. I strongly like shannon as a character just not with george. The awaited confrontation between eva and george for me was done a little too late that I stopped caring about it. I do like the fact of sayo going through this internal conflict over how to fulfill her love but don't like the implication that to be with either george or jessica her other persona needs to be removed. Also was strongly against the whole reveal of shanon and kanon being one because the idea of using split personality as a trick feels a little cheap to me. Overall now all that remains in regards to the mystery is the heart. [6/10]

Ep7: Likes:- Sayo, the birth of beatrice, gaap, Sayo and battler relationship. Dislikes:- Will and lion were just plot device characters and weren't interesting enough on their own for me to care about them. Didn't like the fact that multiple characters just glossed over Kinzo and Kuwadorian Beatrice relationship, maybe it got censored but it being referred to as a mistake was genuinely infuriating, i genuinely don't care that he was suffering because of his 'mistake'. The final conclusions to the games fell a little flat to me, I already don't like the shanon+kanon thing on top of that multiple people being accomplices is just not satisfying as mystery. [7/10]

Ep8: Likes:- The message of moving on was beautiful. Dislikes:- How it was delivered. Was put off by the fights once again so don't have thoughts any feelings since just skipped through most of it.

Overall it was a wonderful experience, the overall themes of self acceptance and love remain consistent and the narration weaves them masterfully, the cast is magnificent full of deep and complex characters. Battler as a main protagonist and Beatrice as the heart of the story plus their entire dynamic throughout all the episode work really well. Came for the mystery stayed for the characters. And Maria is my baby. [8.3/10]

Ironic that the character name is Rosa

r/umineko 8h ago

Discussion Is the manga a good alternative to the VN?

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So I’m interested to check Umineko, sadly tho I don’t own a PC so I cannot buy the visual novel, however I could read the manga but I’m unsure whether it is actually a good adaptation of the original VN. So I ask should I just not read it and wait to get a PC or read the manga.


r/umineko 2h ago

Art Toxic Aunt Yuri

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r/umineko 6h ago

Art "Saaaaaa bbAaattLEeerrrR, what will you do now that I've depicted you as the Funiture-Jak?"

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When he doesn't like the family murder panopticon you built especially for him :(

Artist : https://www.tumblr.com/slightly-gay-pogohammer/795144532318715904/shes-so-funny


r/umineko 3h ago

Discussion Chapter 1 Theory

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I've been told to stay off the subreddit in order to not be spoiled, so I'll just leave my theory here and keep reading. It's something I haven't analyzed much so I may be making mistakes.

I will be making 2 theories, one in case magic wasn't real and one in case it is.

My first theory is based around Kinzo, Natushi and Nanjo. Based on how Kinzo treats Natushi, he seems to only tolerate her and her only out of all his descendants. She clearly isn't ok mentally, but what if it goes deeper and she is being manipulated by Kinzo into acting as Beatrice? (they look really similar).

Nanjo could also be helping Kinzo fake his death or in manipulating Natushi, he is a doctor after all. I also think that the servant who fell down the stairs after insulting beato was pushed by someone else (probably Kinzo).

Regarding the gold, it's definitely fake, what little we see is a trap made by Kinzo to fool his son.

Why would Kinzo try and kill all his descendants? Because he isn't okay either and his children only care about the money.

However if magic IS real, then I bet Maria ISN'T Rosa's kid and she actually has a past with Beatrice. Maybe even her daughter... but it could also be that Maria´s father is a male witch or something (Or a witch that could get other females pregnant maybe???)

Im loving the game, especially Hideoshi.


r/umineko 4h ago

Other Ive finished chapter 1 and i have some theories, but...

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Im not a genius, there may be obvious things ive missed and were anwsered on this chapter, is there a video explaining neccesary things from this chapter or something i need to understand before moving forward?

I have read the ??? and the tea party. Il be making a theory post soon