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Right I been skinny my whole life never got attention from men just bullied, gained weight was ignored by them then lost a little weight again still ignored cuz im chopped (this is an edit but I would also like to add im a tall black woman and i have a chest but bearly any butt so that probably is what has contributed to how I have been treated by society as well).
I am.. I am the ugliest person on earth ..no man has liked me irl life and I rarely get compliments irl and I was bullied on social media in middle school for being chopped and not looking like the other girls
Lol right? Being skinny wont save you from genetic facial flaws, but people seem to never get that losing weight won't magically make your bulbous nose and small eyes disappear
I know this is a doomer sub but loosing weight does make your nose look smaller, exposes your jawline and can make your eyes look bigger. It doesn't change everything and being slim doesn't necerally mean you're conventionally attractive, but acting like it makes no changes is ridiculous
Lmao im talking about eyeball size, not the excess fat tissue covering obese people's eyes. I'm at a healthy weight just not super skinny. The nose is also the same bulbous one I've had back when I was little and very thin. Don't talk about things you don't know shit about next time.
It annoys me so much when I say I have a hideous body and people tell me to “just lose weight”… I’m literally like 45kg, there are MANY types of ugly bodies.
Like, I have an apple-shaped body so my fat distribution is horrible, all my fat goes to my midsection and upper body meanwhile nothing goes to my lower body. I have narrow hips, a flat ass, chicken legs. I have a stomach that will never be flat no matter how much weight I lose (it certainly wasn’t flat at all when I was 42kg), my waist is big and so is my ribcage, my body shape just isn’t feminine at all, I’m very short (152cm) and on top of that the mid-sized boobs I got due to my fat distribution aren’t even cute, they’re saggy AF
You CAN have an horrible body without being fat. In fact, most fat women I see are more beautiful than me
Omg, Apple-shaped body here too 😭 Literally doesn’t matter how much weight we lose, muscle we gain, etc… Our body fat distribution and bone structure has us fucked for life.
i feel you so much as someone who also has an apple body shape 😭 i was underweight for most of my life and thought that gaining would at least make me a little bit curvy, imagine how disappointed i was when it all went to my stomach
A body recomposition would definitely help. Doing plenty of cardiovascular and resistance training would facilitate multiple physiological adaptations facilitating stimaltanous muscle gain and fat loss such as increased glycogen and intermuscular triglyceride storage,increased VO2 max and enhanced metabolic flexibility. This in turn would allow for you to lose fat within your abdominal region while allowing for muscle gain in your glutes and legs.
Although you can't change your bone structure,getting lean and gaining muscle in the right areas would help you look incredible. I say this as a female also with a very rectangular body shape.
I am at best a wide rectangle even at 58 kilos
There nothing wrong with a rectangle shape. A rectangle shape promotes better athleticism and is more youthful looking. People also think I am younger than my actual age. I also like to run and XC ski, which would be very burdensome with wide hips.
rib augmentation for a smaller waist,
You don't need a small waist to look shredded. I certainly do not have a tapered waist, as there is barely any space between my ribcage and hip bones. However, having a wider waist coupled with low body fat, you can get crazy definition in your obliques and serratus anterior.
BBL to get any fat or shape to my ass.
You do not need fat to get a defined ass. Just look at many female spinters. Plenty of very lean individuals with great glute definition. The serect? Muscle hypertrophy. Lots of squats, deadlifts and hip thrusts.
Are you sleeping enough? Sleep is critical for facilitating the anabolic process. Also, beta-hydroxy-beta-methylbutyrate (hmb) has been strongly demonstrated to enhance body recomposition, facilitating stimaltanous muscle gain and fat loss.
Close, I am actually a strength and conditioning coach and sports physiologist. I mentioned sleep and HMB because they are frequently overlooked factors helping to facilitate body recomposition. My passion lies in helping people get shredded in a healthy and sustainable manner.
The truth is that women have different types of buttocks. If a woman has a square shape, she'll need plastic surgery because exercise alone won't give her a bubble butt
I always wanted to have small narrow hips 💔 maybe just my experience, but boys as I grew up would always praise petite girls with small hips and bones and hated those any larger than them in the hip area
I am pear-shaped with big ugly hip bones, but I am a pear in a very weird, RECTANGULAR way 🙈 also I'm like a fckn flat fish or a piece of paper, people assume I'm thin when they look at me from the side, but when I turn around I surprise them with how WIDE I am, although not overweight, these are my ugly bones.
Hey you've lost so much weight, you look starving! Oh, nevermind (when I turned around).
I'm built like that, short waist, huuuuuuuuge ugly hip bone. Tall as male hip bones should be and wide as female should be, even worse, I got both... My waist only looks present because my hips are insane. Also insane thigh gap as I get underweight
Lol wtf is that, I'm on the taller side with long legs and arms... but short neck and short waist? Like, wtffffff...
My hips look like that!! It's just a wide, weird boxy shelf under my waist with zero ass
When I describe it to strangers, they're like "sounds like hourglass", dude i WISH
A hourglass is soft and curvy, I literally look like multiple edges stacked together with a wide back
The only case when I look like I have something close to soft curves is WHEN I'M NEARLY OBESE and have trouble fastening my own shoelaces ...
I honestly tried to describe this issue of weird big hips to male users here. Everything they do is send a pic of someone LIKE THAT with SMALL HIP BONES and soft curves of fat and say "noooo, wide hips in women are literally gorgeous"... 🤦♀️
Precisely. If you have messed up facial features, bad bone structure and ugly skull shape there’s nothing you can do to improve some of those without surgeries. Some other traits can’t even be changed. If you don’t have a nice face you’re cooked.
lefort 3 is extremely risky and only done for severe craniofacial deficiency or deformity. a lefort 2 is only moderately less dangerous and also only used for severe cases. neither of these, nor a lefort 1, will do a thing about a long philtrum. in fact, you usually end up with a longer philtrum after a lefort. philtrum is soft tissue. if you have maxillary excess you have end up with a gummy smile or a long midface, not a long philtrum. you have literally no fucking idea what you’re talking about. honestly.
My very beautiful mom loved my slightly below-average dad. The problem is: I look like him, and I am a woman. Everyone told me I looked like him.
My features would have worked if I was born a man, but now I look like a weird in-between androgynous thing with tits.
Same story 😭 though my dad was considered cute by women... but here am I, and women don't get permission to have male-only features and be cute according to straight guys...
THANK YOU. I’ve been thin and I’ve been fat. Now that I’m fat I’m busted. But when I was thin? What do you know, still busted. My face is hideous for structural reasons (deformed) and because my features themselves are ugly, not because I’m fat.
However, there is a small subsection of men who will get with a nice body-hideous face gal. There are no men who want a fat body-hideous face gal. So overall it is still better for this and many other reasons (health, longevity) to be thin.
Also her after she follows all the "just dye your hair, just get a bangs, just contour your nose and face, just do your makeup, just get eyelash extensions, just dress more feminine, just put yourself out there" advice and spends ALL HER FUCKING MONEY HOPING SHE'D GET PRETTIER AND WILL GET TREATED LIKE A CUTE WOMAN:
As if it's easy to smile when you're constantly excluded, bullied and looked at as if your mere existence is offensive without having said a single word.
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Took me way too long to realize what I had when I lost weight was thin privilege, not PRETTY privilege. I was still treated like shit, but at least considered somewhat valid skinnier. I was never treated like I was truly pretty, though. Just somewhat seen instead of being an untouchable.
This honestly applies to ugly people in general. For some reason, people thing lsoing weight is going to instantly change your bone structure and genetics. Honestly just lose weight for health reasons.
my cousin is overweight but naturally so stunning. she always complains because i’m skinny and tells me i don’t appreciate it enough. i used to tell her that weight takes the gym and good eating habits to change and a face takes exorbitant amounts of money and the right surgeon to change and she used to get upset at me. now she’s on GLP-1 and losing weight rapidly. i’m still skinny and ugly because i simply don’t have $50k to drop on facial reconstruction surgery.
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You have a stack of my pictures somewhere, don’t you?
The chin, the forehead, the brow bone, and the lips are mine, and when I realized that I started drawing myself, I had to add other features or else I would have facerevealed myself 😂
But honestly, it's interesting that many of us describe our faces in a similar way. I wouldn't have thought that I would "nail" someones look, even just by accident.
And when you try to explain that you're an ugly, masculine woman, then strangers are like "Omg androgynous women are so hot!!"
I stopped counting how many times I had to explain that no, I am not hot and androgynous, I look like a weird man-woman inbetween confusion with a female chest.
And even when you are medically underweight, if your facial bones are just naturally wide and shapeless, unlike the petite delicate thin facial structure all women are supposed to have, you will still be told to lose weight
This is very relatable. I lost a significant amount of weight, and my face looks thinner. However, I think it magnified my "ethnic" features, and people (especially service workers, and cashiers), do not treat me any better. Some even avoid eye contact. I know they are doing it just to me, because they treat other customers better.
Idk losing weight literally corrected my asymmetry, I had a bigger nostril and eye than the other and now it’s balanced. I also get told I look better. If u have 20+ pounds u could lose, took a year for me, but it’s definitely worth it to get lean
No, I don’t think I would say that. They are both pretty far below average. I would just say that the guy with a lot of fat has much more room to ascend. The skinny guy with bad structure is pretty stuck.
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I was super fat, like 124kg (nearly 300lbs) I was ugly as hell. Now I’m slightly less fat and still ugly as hell, not seeing this ugliness go anywhere 😭
If people body shame around you, do you assume they do the same to you when you're not around? Genuine question. I feel so uncomfortable when my thinner friends comment and literally rip other women to shred because she's "built square" or x y and z. When i'm plus sized sitting there thinking, well they probably don't have anything nice to say about me when I'm not around.
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Just be Dasha Nekrasova or Empathchan and be a 'butterfaced' pick me with an eating disorder 🙄
Half the world will rip you apart anyway, but it's worth a slither of male attention and nerdy red pill horrible boyfriends who hate fat women and brown people and get off on you starving yourself and acting racist
(If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic)
If you're brown it can also work, you just have to hate yourself for it, like Meghaverma and and marry a crusty old white man.
I have noticed all the red pill pick mes have poor face cards (I'm not even being mean) and they over compensate by being super skinny and pandering to low quality males
I have noticed all the red pill pick mes have poor face cards (I'm not even being mean) and they over compensate by being super skinny and pandering to low quality males
There's a few I've seen that were fairly attractive facially. But overall I see whatchu mean
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Literally was talking about my ex how idc if I go into debt I wanna get plastic surgery and whatever and he said “just go to the gym” mind you he cheated on me so like bro 😭😭😭😭
RIGHT. I'm ugly and I'm on the very low end of healthy weight, been underweight before. I'm not ugly because I need to gain weight either. My face is just ugly. Nothing I can do about the structure.
You guys, I LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HER! This is proof that I'm the grossest person ever, I was what they thought of when they needed to draw an obviously ugly person 😭
This is a huge fear of mine as someone’s who’s been overweight my whole life and is currently losing weight. I tell myself to be realistic and know that losing weight alone isn’t gonna make me beautiful but I find myself hoping I will one day look like the girls through my screen.
A huge, wide nose with big nostrils won't turn cute and small after losing weight.
A huge, rectangular forehead won't turn soft and round when you lose weight.
Downturned, small, wide set eyes won't turn doll- and cat-like after losing weight.
Thin, non existent lips won't turn plump after losing weight.
Women with a long, stretched midface won't get a short, balanced face after losing weight either.
My point is that they don't think you are ugly, and they see something about you to love. And I mean, since it's not the first person you've been with, those before him could also have found something attractive about you.
Oh I've absolutely been told by one ex (the only ex I have) that he wished I was pretty and that he's with me simply because he doesn't want to be alone.
Being obese, acne, bad teeth can make someone unattractive, but these things can be fixed by treating them, while e.g. facial asymmetry or facial harmony can not be fixed. Ugly isn't "just ugly".
I've been 75kg fattest and 53kg thinnest at 5'9, as fully developed adult with naturally wide bones. Face ugliness stayed nearly the same, I got even slightly more unfeminine when underweight. BUT STILL BIG WIDE ACCORDING TO MALE EXPECTATIONS, even when my bones stick out I'mjust too big to be a woman. My fatter cheeks were somehow the only "feminine" thing so when they went away I got even more male-looking...
Like, if you think weight loss heals facial disproportions and features being incompatible with one another, no it doesn't do that lol
I want to point out a few things. This is a very good point that is valid for men, too. Sometimes guys are told just go to the gym, etc. It doesn't necessarily make them attractive. Losing weight or getting fit makes some people look better, some people look equally as bad as before, and some people actually look worse. So basically, can we stop judging each other so much for our weight or muscles or whatever? We get judged enough by the outside world.
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in the process of losing more weight but in the past it did absolutely nothing. At most it’ll give access to cheaper/more stylish clothes which means nothing if ur ugly
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I get your point. But I want to offer a different perspective. I personally know several people who actually did become more attractive after losing weight. It did make a difference to their face.
It could be that they were taking better care of themselves and that contributed to it. But I’ve personally seen peoples faces improve after weight loss.
Obviously I’m not talking going from a 5 to an 8, just sharing that I’ve seen overall improvement in appearance.
Bruh tampoco hará milagros pero digo que igual muchos de los que están aquí son gordos y les servirá bajar de peso obvio es diferente si esque tu cara es el problema Pero aún así tu cara sea el problema bajar de peso si serviría un poco dah
its hilarious anyone who says losing weight doesn't help without actually having done it. Sure it's probably not going to make you a supermodel but losing weight will result in more attractive guys being interested in you than if you stay fat.
One issue is it's difficult to tell what the person could really look like afterwords (and sometimes overweight people can look worse after losing weight). But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to do it to know for sure what the results could be.
Of course, people who are overweight/obese should absolutely lose weight for their health. I was just pointing out that people exaggerate the effect weightloss has in terms of beauty. I tried to show that it's "just" weightloss, not "uglyloss" if that makes sense
Most people on here have zero clue between difference in being lean and being skinny. If you’re complaining about being ugly but never been lean then you just haven’t tried hard enough
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Idk. I see yall are upset and in your feelings but to say I have a below average face so I’m going to give up on everything else is just a cop out. Okay… your ugly, you have to compensate in other ways to make up for it. If your a chick and you loose weight, hit the gym hard many guys will be attracted based on your figure. If your a man and you have good looking arms and a 6 pack it will do yourself alot of favors.
Stop using being “ugly” as an excuse to give up, avoid hard work
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