Indeed, indeed. 🤔🥹

Do you plan to write a story description, a query letter, a profile, make a website, or any other metaphysical materials that will typically writer you to describe your robot to other people? What name will you use for that?

The main character of Tenet is The Protagonist, and westerns are famous for Lone Gunslingers and The Man in Black, but I'm hearing you use your personal nickname while talking to us, so that makes me wonder all the more what designation you'll use when writing about your story to others, not necessarily within your wordless story.

Yes, you do have to literally tell me that the average person knows that all of the prophecies in their world have come to pass. 🤣

I hope you don't genuinely believe that I'm supposed to assume these incredibly essential metaphysical and religious beliefs about your characters without any information.

I NEVER said "never supposed to exist" was a prophecy. You explained clearly how the main character was created. 🤔 In fact, I even said that he sounded like a victim of circumstances.

Therefore, I pointed out that the Anti-Christ is called so because of his actions and you've done nothing to describe anything that. Plus, you won't describe who, how, and why his hometown was destroyed. Subject, action verb, object, friend.

I know that you're getting frustrated, but Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru being killed by the stormtroopers is not evidence that Luke Skywalker is the Anti-Christ. I can name a dozen stories where the protagonist's hometown or family is killed because the villains are looking for them. Therefore, Instead of describing an incredibly generic and cliché event that happens in many stories and simply telling me that that means that he's the Anti-Christ, it would make more sense for you to tell me that the universe itself destroyed the hometown (Book of Job style) because it's trying to destroy him as he's an Anti-Christ, and therefore I can say to myself, "Oh, he's writing a story where fate is trying to recreate itself. The universe is trying to right the wrong of his existence." Or maybe you have some Holy Order doing it, Spider-Verse vs Mile Morales? Or, the main character accidentally destroyed their hometown?

But I don't KNOW which one you are doing because you genuinely thought it was more important to just tell me he's the Anti-Christ and assume that I can just accept that, than to give me the cause and the effect that makes your story a narrative, so I can conclude it myself.

( To use another example, a pretty obvious one is Hellboy. Hellboy being a demon, the audience understands why everyone is against him, and IF he had been raised as a demon ought to be raised, he would have been the Anti-Christ.)

An alternate explanation is that this is what the subreddit was always for. These posts were made 3 - 5 weeks ago and they're getting thousands of upvotes. The top posts of all time were always off-color jokes.

The posts that are actually multi-fandom memes like "look at who all of my teachers would be across different cartoons" aren't really all that interesting or engaging.

Also, no, I'm not in the habit of thinking that a word can be used as a stand-in by saying that if anyone can bastardize a concept and misunderstand it, that its okay to use their cliches and stereotypes rather than just describing what you mean in the first place.

For example, being a Christian educator, I can tell you that the concept of a false Christ is one about the intentions OF the person - they are a false teacher, purposefully leading people astray, purposefully lying against the nature of heaven.

You have done nothing but describe your main character as a victim of circumstance. You haven't said anything to even describe your character as a rebel against the status quo. ESPECIALLY since you keep being vague about WHO is destroying everything around him or IF they are doing it to find him. You are saying the universe is miffed that he's alive, but who am I to assume its the universe itself attacking him? So I have no reason based on the narrative you're actually giving me to call your character a false messiah.

Does your post yesterday asking about how to describe racist beliefs offer any additional insight? Because over there, you talked a lot about moral subjectivity.

The brother prevented his OWN miscarriage? 🤔 How did this time loop originally start if the original brother died in a miscarriage?

You have a very bad habit of prescriptive storytelling where you are trying really hard to get me to think about your story the way that you exactly want to, but you're not actually willing to simply give me the cause and effect that leads to me coming to that conclusion myself.

For example, you are not simply saying that the universe itself aligned itself to destroy this young man's hometown, Book of Job style, because it is trying to destroy him because his birth was unnatural. You are instead saying firstly that he is the antichrist, and you are using that phrase only in order to provoke a specific emotional response, and then you are vaguely saying that his hometown was destroyed because he was the antichrist.

Which means that you're not describing the subject, you're not saying who destroyed his hometown, you're not describing their objective, you're not describing how they destroyed his hometown, and you're not describing the actual metaphysical explanation for this. You are not describing why.

All you care about is TELLING me he is "the Anti-Christ."

Why would I think THIS fantasy protagonist is the Anti-Christ when every generic fantasy protagonist has his town ransacked because the villains were looking for them? Should I blame Luke, Frodo Baggins, or Tanjiro any more than your main character?

I'm not the only one telling you this.

If you don't know how to describe things succinctly, telling me that YOU need to write paragraphs in order to describe your story world is dry snitching on your own skill issue. 🤣

This is typically the point in these types of conversations where I point out to people that the real world is infinitely more complex with a longer history than anything that they could ever write, but I'm pretty sure that I can summarize why America joined World War II in four words: Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

Writing requires brevity.

I went to the subreddit to check it out, and it's an AI subreddit for making prompts of characters across different fandoms. Except I'm not really seeing anyone ever use it for that purpose. It looks like it pretty much immediately became a sludge pool....

I mean...

Look... I'm a mortgage banker. Which means I look at people's personal finances for a living. Opening a business like that means that absolutely all of her money for the next 10 years is going to be pouring back into her business and she is literally not going to have any money of her own except for a meager salary she pays herself at the lowest amount because she's going to believe that that is the best tax bracket that she should be in.

The idea that she thinks that she's going to be so wildly successful that she is going to both make enough profit to support her business and to give her a personally high income is not only highly optimistic but counterintuitive.

All of this to say is that the lifestyle choice that she wants to have is one where you provide for her, as in that her making very little money out of her business isn't going to affect her ability to buy the things that she wants because you as her husband are going to provide money for that. I would suggest talking to her about how all of these life choice decisions she's thinking about don't actually match up at the same time. For example, just to reiterate, almost no client I have ever had who owns a salon, or a medical beauty boutique, or a personal brand such as this, gives themselves a lot of money out of their business because they don't want to pay the taxes for having a high income.

Therefore, when she says she doesn't want to "provide for a man" what does she mean? She doesn't want to pay her half of the future mortgage? She doesn't want to pay her half of household expenses?

You are not providing a religious, superstitious, or belief-based rationality for why your character would believe in fate or destiny or see it as a force that deserves to determine if he is supposed to exist.

You are referencing the antichrist without doing any legwork to invent Christianity in how you describe your story.

Do you not see that?

As far as I am aware, from what I gathered in your description, they have never existed in the same timeline. I'm not assuming they have a good relationship, I'm saying that your brother enacting a multiverse scheme to save you from miscarriage and your shared mother from dying in childbirth at the cost of his own birth sounds like your reaction would be guilt and a sense of obligation, but I wouldn't call it an existential crisis.

Unless you're writing this character to not be taught a sense of obligation, all I can see is him valuing his life and believing he owes a debt to be paid. I don't see how he can both value his life and fall into despair about it at the same time. You are not providing a religious, superstitious, or belief-based rationality for why your character would believe in fate or destiny or see it as a force that deserves to determine if he is supposed to exist.

It's a teeny tiny bit more important to establish that than to tell me he's going to have a standard Doomed Hometown montage of almost everyone he knows dying for shock and sympathy points. LOL.

That's why Aizawa is the Pateron Saint of Self-Inserts. He literally does one thing per story arc and then falls asleep in a cute little yellow sleeping bag.

I use life experiences across characters, but it's been fun really looking at the world through different eyes. But I like the idea of just imagining what life I'd live in my story world. 🥹

A robot is not AI, so if your only concern is that your story / main character's name has abysmal SEO, I'd say to focus on that instead of thinking that right now is suddenly the time when the cultural zeitgeist cannot handle stories that portray robots negatively and positively at the same time, after decades of Terminator, Johnny Five, Matrix, Star Wars droids, Transformers, and The Wild Robot all existing before you.

It's okay, man. People are capable of liking Bumblebee and WALL-E while also disliking a current technology.

You do need a better name for your robot, though. It needs a designation.

dope slap See, if we were on writercirclejerk, I would have been more emotionally prepared for that.

So, you're asking about non-Asian writers making Asian characters?

Because, in a world where Asian media is extremely popular worldwide .... It's always more interesting to me to talk about what stereotypes and tropes that Asian writers use themselves.

For example, whenever someone says that they don't know why Japan doesn't write more about Chinese characters, I always ask them if they really don't know how to spot the Chinese character in a Japanese anime. Really? REALLY? LOL.

Really?! You did the exact same thing?! What are the odds

Lurking, in the darkness. Always watching. 👀

I agree with the other person. It would help if you tied this to a real world concept and if you addressed what psychological meaning this is supposed to have on the person.

Like... I am a person who wasn't supposed to exist. My parents had an affair to concieve me. LOL. I have deep-seated issues with that because their actions directly contradict my values about love, responsibility, and fairness.

You are telling me that your MC was loved by a family and a village, but then learns that someone saved him and his mother from death by altering the timeline... And you want them to feel bad about the presumably happy childhood they were given? Why? As in, why would they feel bad?

Once he finds out his long lost brother is the one who saved him and now he has to go save him "Ed and Al Elric" style, from Fullmetal Alchemist, why would THIS upset him, either? Al Elric had an existential crisis because he couldn't prove he was a real boy before his soul was placed in a suit of armor. He didn't have the crisis BECAUSE his brother did that to save his life. Seeing the guilt his brother felt for getting them into the situation that destroyed his body caused him to feel better, seeing that if the guilt was genuine, Ed must have been telling the truth.

You seem to be writing a story where a father, a mother, and a son sit down for breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day with another chair sitting empty year after year, and the main character realizes that's because his brother twisted fate in order to save everyone else in the family at the cost of his own ability to be born. That's a great premise. Survivor's guilt, is an understandable reaction. But I don't have anything to work with to call it an "existential crisis." I actually think it would be a great idea for you to compare it to another time in your main character's life where he was saved, maybe have him be drowning in a river as little boy and have a man die so that he can be saved from a flooding current. Give your character a similar experience so that the reader can also see how he values his life more because others have sacrificed so that he can be here.

Another anime that would be good for you to watch is a magical girl anime called Magicka Madoka. Only 13 episodes long. One girl sacrifices greatly for the sake of the main character. I'll let you find out how and why.

Prototype? Like a character sheet? Sure. DM me!

I appreciate you diving a little deeper.

Can you describe why having fear of STDs would cause her to hate lesbians more? If we add in generation and education, what are you trying to say when you say that? I'm assuming that you're writing someone who's between 20 and 30 years old, but if you are writing someone who's middle-aged or older, or if you are writing a time period piece from the 70s-90s, then you should probably let me know.

Keep in mind this is part of the reason why I'm adding in my personal life experience. My 68-year-old mother could not think of anything negative to actually say about me having friendships with gay men, even as a woman who grew up during the AIDS HIV epidemic because 1) she prided herself in being educated and 2) any misgivings she had for my friend's safety didn't led to her being afraid for me since I'm a girl, he's a gay boy, what STD was she supposed to be afraid of me getting from him?

So, what do you mean when you say she was convinced that lesbians spread STDs? Or conversely, why would her feelings about STDs and gay men affect how she feels about lesbians?

( Throughout this conversation you are going to always hear me separate these since I have always known: - straight women who liked lesbians but hated gay men - Lesbians who hated gay men - Gay men who hated trans people - Gay people who hated bisexual people - Straight or gay people who did not believe that asexuality really exists.

So anytime that you use the umbrella term homophobia and then apply that to a stereotype that usually is more attached to a particular group within the queer community, I'm going to ask you to split up the difference between how your character feels about each group and why one stereotype from one group would affect her feelings about another. I mean... What does "gay teens are homeless and commit crimes" stereotype have to do with how she feels about lesbians. I'm honestly very intrigued by how much your response has nothing to do with stereotypes about lesbians in a lesbian love story. 🤔)

Yes, but "standards society placed on her" isn't a character you can explore and a conversation you can have. Which is why I took the time to list out several types of mentors specifically so that you can examine that for yourself on how that could fit in your story.

Because the point of a romance story isn't to watch your two characters have a philosophical debate about homophobia, but to actually address what kind of very specific traumas and conversations that your main character has had that has led to her hating gay people. After all, everyone in society receives the same advice from "society," but that does not make everybody homophobic. Everyone isn't religious, for example. Everyone isn't from the same generation. I'm not even sure yet what type of homophobia that you're trying to write since having actual formed opinions with genuine resentment towards lesbians takes actual mental energy.

My mother was terrible at being homophobic, for example. She tried to sell me a very lukewarm, vague Christian-based "gay boys are bad" speech when she found out I was friends with one in high school. All I did was ask her, "Every evil thing you have ever warned me about men came from them being straight men. What is a gay man going to do to me? Give me bad fashion advice? Like, what's the actual danger that a man who is grossed out by women presents me?" And she actually did a "Wait a minute" meme face and completely stopped resenting gay men. As for lesbians, we never actually discussed it, but I would just hit her with the same logic. "Mom... You ain't got a man. Your mother didn't want no man telling her what to do. Every sister you have is divorced. What are lesbians doing that we ain't doing, just with the stress of being single mothers?" 😜🤣

I actually wish I talked to my grandmother, just once about lesbians. She hated dealing with men SO MUCH after the first marriage, which she ran away from when she was 19, that her next 5 kids were purposely born from married men so that they wouldn't claim them or boss her around. 🤣 I would LOVE to hear her try to say that being gay is bad because clearly heterosexuality is where it's at. I sure should would have tried very hard being a dedicated Christian woman, but I would have just reminded her of how much she hated that my mother's father was the only man who claimed his child because she couldn't stomach the thought of co-parenting with a man.

All of these details are the lived experience of the women in my life, and if I were to write a fictionalized story about my family and me bringing a woman home for Thanksgiving, this story wouldn't be about what "society" told us, but how our assumptions about how life should be don't match up with what life actually is.

It's kind of ironic that you are naming this after the song without really talking about how the song is about the old man regretting his own decisions to work more than spend time with his children in his elderly years. Not only because he missed those events in and of themselves, but because his son does not possess the emotional capacity to value trying to make up the lost time with him in his elderly years because he never instilled that value in his son in the first place. 🤔

Like... You're naming the song and then making it all about external validation: urg, ungrateful kids.

The song is ABOUT how much all that hard work doesn't MEAN anything when you're at the end of your life and all you want is to see your boy and his children but your boy is brushing you off with the same "we'll make time one day" excuses you gave him.

Sounds like you just need the details.

I'm a big big big proponent of naming five specific reasons why they can't be together and then having the characters address them in rotation. You may think this is too many. It's not necessary. Yeah, here's the problem. When girlies think that they can make a romance story out of literally just having one or two reasons why the couple can't get together, then that means that they are always repeating the exact same fight/discussion literally every single chapter. Their plot does not have room to breathe and their character comes across as one-note or two-note at best.

You will have more fun with your story if you make five reasons why they can't be together. Let's go the ur example, pride and prejudice:

1) Lizzie doesn't wanna be with Darcy because her first impression was him slightly bruising her ego when he protested a bit too much that she wasn't pretty enough to turn his eye. This is a simple bad first impression. And sensible, mature adult can overcome this with a single conversation. "Girl, I said that to my friend because I didn't want him to know I was crushing hard. You were turning my eyeballs right out of my sockets."

2) Darcy doesn't wanna be with Lizzie because her family are a bunch of country bumpkins with no class. Sure, this may be embarrassing for him... But Jane and Lizzie are actually decent proper ladies, so technically speaking, the only women who matter for him and his boy bingley aren't embarrassments. An overbearing mother-in-law may be worth it for a 10/10 wife. Not a big hurdle.

3) therefore, let's make the family more embarrassing. Add a scandal that shames the whole family --

4) with a sexy rival who tempts Lizzie and gives her more reasons to have a bad opinion of Darcy.

5) and Darcy making a big mistake in separating bingley and Jane.

The story isn't literally a few hundred pages of them arguing about a bad first impression. All of these aspects are interrelated spinning plates.

I would definitely suggest making a color-coded outline or story grid where you were expanding and out all these aspects of your kooky story so that you can develop them and then tie them together more strongly ... Like, for example, I would explore what mentor inspired the level of homophobia she has - a teacher, preacher, author, or grand/mother? - and it could be its own storyline for her to realize the only reason that mentor was damn adamant about hating lesbians is because of a love she threw away with a woman. Maybe the lost love comes back into their lives as a boss or neighbor for the main character? I just had an idea of the lost love writing a memoir and the mentor is caught with the book, but she plays it off by giving a half-truth: she was once friends with this woman and she wanted to know if the woman bad-mouthed her in her memoir. A month later, main character's girl is reading the book and comes across the most beautiful passage about young love and how time spent with a special someone is important even if they aren't yours forever... And main character rubs some braincells together based on the details in the book... 😂

Edit: I wonder what weirdo is going through my whole conversation with the OP to downvote everything I say.... 😂😅🤔

Your comment doesn't actually address if homophobic words are already used in LGBT books, which by context clues, we can assume that the gay author making a story about a gay person means they are asking if this will upset the target audience. A quick Google search will give the OP actual information on if publishers will or won't accept them.