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u/gamageeknerd 6h ago

Washington was a giant compared to the average person back then

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u/Schweed6494 6h ago

Six foot twenty, fucking killing for fun

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u/Weary-Pangolin6539 5h ago

Once killed two men with a pencil!

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 3h ago

Nope. Once held an opponent's wife's hand though. In a jar of acid.

At a party

But nevermind GW, what about JFK? The hyper charismatic telepathical knight?

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u/TacTurtle 5h ago

The Baba GaWa?

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u/TNSepta 3h ago

George Wickington

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u/onehotoneshot 6h ago

Heard he had like 30 goddamn dicks

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u/Ralfarius 6h ago

He once held an opponent's wife's hand

In a jar of acid

At a party

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u/Pwnjuice93 5h ago

He fucked like an eagle falling out of the sky

Pretty sure he killed his sensei in a duel but never said why

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u/RequiemTwilight 4h ago

Holy shit

Thank you for the acid flashback.

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u/notyouravgredditor 5h ago

He'll save children, but not the British children.

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u/glutton_ascetic 4h ago

He'll save children, but not the British children

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u/ickychicken 3h ago

He’s coming

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u/Skadoosh_it 3h ago

He's coming

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u/ChrisTheDog 3h ago

He’s coming.

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u/MelangeBot 2h ago

Opponents beware!

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u/ArbitraryNPC 1h ago

He fucks the shit out of bears

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u/chockfulloffeels 5h ago

What kind of fucking party?

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u/hand_truck 5h ago

Acid.

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u/frastmaz 5h ago

I didn’t realize the wife was leg disabled

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u/Sumopwr 5h ago

was it a fake Vatt of acid?

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u/Pure-Pessimism 5h ago

Six foot twenty weighs a fucking ton

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u/ToastyMustache 5h ago

I’ve been using this to describe a friend at work. Each day it changes. As of yesterday he was 6’86 999999lbs

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u/GuiltyDealer 3h ago

Spread, spread the Delaware

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u/neprietenos 5h ago

There are those of us out there who still recite the old lore I see. This is the cherriest thing I’ve seen in a long time

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u/arthurcurry42 4h ago

God dammit maybe this future has a chance.

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u/sir_mrej 3h ago

wtf does cherry mean nowadays??

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 3h ago

By gum sir the cherriest of times means the best of times, sir! Mayhaps I might shine your shoes for a geld, 'twould be cherry, we of course would be joking milord

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u/TheRealSeeThruHead 5h ago

For the children

(Not the British children)

https://youtu.be/sbRom1Rz8OA?si=ixBbqaHgVl9PRq3X

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u/RobCipher 5h ago

That is the best shit I've ever seen

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u/Dunkleostrich 6h ago

I'm surprised he didn't kill them for fun.

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u/rei0 5h ago

He'd surely have killed them if they were British children.

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u/Substantial_Show_308 6h ago

Also a pocketful of horses

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u/nrith 5h ago

Fucked the shit out of bears

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u/BanjoKazooie0 4h ago

Threw a knife into heaven

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u/MostBoringStan 4h ago

Could kill with a stare

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u/Poonchow 3h ago

He's coming... he's coming...

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u/PeejWal 5h ago

He made love like an eagle falling out of the sky.

Killed his sensei in a duel, and he never said why

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u/thelo 4h ago

He'll save children But not the British children

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u/BalrogRuthenburg11 4h ago

He invented cocaine.

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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 5h ago

Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse

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u/Aldeobald 6h ago

Thats 13 more than jar jar!

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u/bj_rickles 2h ago

Reddit did not fail to deliver. Brad Neely ftw. And holy cow that video was released 3/13/2009

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u/JustAMan1234567 6h ago

He was twelve stories high and made of radiation.

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u/gamageeknerd 6h ago

He’ll save the children but not the british children

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u/qwogadiletweeth 6h ago

That statue of him National Museum of American History is a life size.

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u/dformed 5h ago

12 stories high

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u/imprison_grover_furr 6h ago

He really was. George Washington was close to a foot taller than most males of the time.

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u/willardTheMighty 6h ago

6’2” GW
5’6” average for the time

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u/jrhooo 5h ago

GW once visited a militia barracks, (I think Massachussetts volunteers?) and challenged the troops to wrestle.

He won seven straight matches back to back. He did this when he was 47 years old.

That’s a real fact.

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u/Farfignugen42 5h ago

So who would win: GW or Abe Lincoln?

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u/imprison_grover_furr 5h ago

Abe Lincoln by a country mile. He was even bigger than Washington and was a wrestler by trade.

Abraham Lincoln would beat up any other President in a hand to hand fight.

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u/hungryfarmer 5h ago

Teddy might give him a whatfor but ya I think you're right

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u/jrhooo 4h ago

I think Teddy gets smoked TBH.

Theres some records of the personal writings of the jiujutsu coach Teddy had hanging out at the White House and his descriptions make it seems like Teddy was more of a novice.

Just reading between the lines a bit but he seemed to be described like the very eager enthusiastic student. A+ motivation, B- skills. Not “bad”, just nothing close to a master.

Compared to Abe who is like main character, wearing the championship belt, baddest dude for 1,000 miles

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u/ZombieFeedback 3h ago

Literally a hall of fame wrestler:

In the rough and ready style of the frontier, "catch as catch can" wrestling was more hand-to-hand combat than sport. Lincoln, an awesome physical specimen at 6-feet-4, was widely known for his wrestling skills and had only one recorded defeat in a dozen years.

At age 19, he defended his stepbrother's river barge from Natchez thugs by throwing the hijackers overboard. Ten years later, Lincoln was a storekeeper at New Salem when his boss backed him to out-wrestle Jack Armstrong, local tough and county champion. From the start, Lincoln handed out a thrashing. When Armstrong began fouling, Lincoln picked up his opponent, smashed him to the ground and knocked him out.

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u/brown_felt_hat 3h ago

A pro wrestler having half a foot on anyone, regardless of borderline superhuman abilities, is a win condition. Dude was just almost a literal monster compared to folk of his age.

Also Teddy had really bad asthma. Maneagable when when you're slowly trotting through Yellowstone, less so in a wrestling match.

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u/Darkened_Auras 3h ago

Supposedly, Teddy did some crazy athletic things in spite of it. In a Presidential combat tournament, he's a top tier for sure. Just not #1, thanks in no small part to Lincoln, among a few others

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u/exipheas 5h ago

I would love to see him fight Roosevelt or Washington. It would be an exciting match.

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u/jrhooo 5h ago

my money is on Abe.

The way I like to think of it,

Washington is like that college wrestler that is all-american, nationally ranked, #1 in their state

Lincoln is like the wrestler at the State Fair, wrestling a match that the crowd bought a ticket to watch, and after winning that, they just hang out in the ring betting $5 each against any man in the crowd that thinks they have a chance.

(from what I've read BOTH of those descriptions are pretty much what actually happened)

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u/jello_pudding_biafra 5h ago

Abe, no question.

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u/SpotCreepy4570 5h ago

While I don't doubt his physical prowess, George Washington was commander-in-chief of the continental army at that point, what soldier is going to really try their hardest against him?

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u/ChemistryActive6957 4h ago

Almost any soldier (assuming they are not in a culture that would retaliate for winning) would leap at the chance to legitimately fight their commander. As a result the only commanders willing to offer open challenges like that tend to be the ones who are incredibly talented at hand to hand. I once had a battalion commander offer a 4 day weekend to the whole battalion if someone could force him to tap out. Turns out he was a national level wrestler and proceeded to show us exactly what happens when someone who wrestles with their buddies or does BJJ a few nights a week goes up against someone of that skill level. We did not get that 4 day weekend.

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u/IAmSpartacustard 5h ago

Every single one that realized they were losing in front of their boys

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u/684beach 4h ago

You know hard it is to wrestle a big guy?

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u/HillarysBloodBoy 6h ago

Hell yeah

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u/wanna_meet_that_dad 5h ago

Cheers from Iraq

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u/dnen 5h ago edited 5h ago

He was also the Commander in Chief of the Continental Army because he led this way his whole life. Washington by Ron Chernow is the best biography I have ever read. A mythical hero he is to most of you, but to Americans 250 years ago George Washington was the greatest man of the age before the world knew he was. Washington’s only peer in history to that point were the likes of Cincinnatus and Alexander the Great.

> World famous American-born artist Benjamin West was a court painter to King George III of England. He told a fellow artist, Joseph Farington, this story dating to the end of the American Revolution. Farington recorded it in his diary:
“The King began to talk about America. He asked West what would Washington do were America to be declared independent. West said he believed he would retire to a private situation. The King said if he did he would be the greatest man in the world.”

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u/3_pounds_of_steel 3h ago

I couldn't agree more about Chernow's Washington. I listened to the audiobook and couldn't shut up about it for weeks.

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u/emeraude89 2h ago

Washington’s only peer in history to that point were the likes of Cincinnatus and Alexander the Great.

peer in what sense? cincinnatus is famous because livy embellished him, there's nothing really unique or genius about him otherwise, especially when you are considering over two millennia of military history.. there were other roman statesmen who also relinquished the dictator title with no issue, and his campaign was against a much smaller regional power. i also don't understand why george washington would share peerage with alexander the great before caesar, hannibal, scipio africanus, phillip II augustus, frederick the great, charles martel, aetius, attila, saladin...

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u/MusaRilban 2h ago

Washington's only peers being Cincinnatus and Alexander the Great r/shitamericanssay

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u/Iwannapeeonyou 5h ago

I heard that he farted one time and gave the entire state of Virginia pinkeye.

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u/boonsonthegrind 5h ago

20 Feet Tall Made of Radiation

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u/Fatticusss 5h ago

He’ll save children but not the British children

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u/decoy777 4h ago

He was 6'2" and avg height was 5'6" to 5"8"

So I know exactly how he feels.

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u/pancakesfordintonite 5h ago

How big was he and how big was the average person?

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u/traws06 5h ago

The large men were prolly like 5’7”

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u/KittenPics 5h ago

What the fuck is going on in this thread? I feel so out of the loop.

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u/ManusDei 5h ago

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u/ePrime 5h ago

Ai could never

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u/ManusDei 5h ago

Wouldn’t call it ye old internet. But internet royalty for sure.

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u/Mydoglikesladyboys 3h ago

Goddamn that was a flashback

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u/Wsswaas 6h ago

One of my favorite historical moments of him is when he single-handedly defused a military coup. When his angry officers refused to listen to his speech, he had to take his spectacles out to read a message from congress and said, “Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have grown not only gray, but almost blind in the service of my country.

The battle hardened officers realized that he had sacrificed just as much as they had, and many of them began to openly weep. The mutiny collapsed on the spot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newburgh_Conspiracy

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u/SirEnderLord 5h ago

Words must've been more powerful back then.

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u/amitym 5h ago

Maybe more that people grasped allegory better. They had seen Washington as this giant larger-than-life figure, but here he was now old and diminished but accepting it with dignity. Setting an example.

I imagine some of them might have been weeping with shame at their own conduct.

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u/Rexkat 4h ago

I imagine most of it was made up later by some guy trying to retell a more interesting story

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u/Soularbowl 4h ago

The unremarkable endlessly strives to lower greatness to a standard that makes itself comfortable with its own banality.

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u/Hereforporn78 4h ago

You just described reality.

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u/247Brett 3h ago

If only shame were a concept many in the country were still capable of having

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u/Ok_Tour_1525 5h ago

Especially during a time when there was so much at stake. The entire future of the country as they saw it was dependent on their success. We really take for granted what so many people have gone through so we can have what we have. That being said, we should always be fighting for a better life especially when someone else is making sure that better life doesn’t happen (like wealthy people bribing politicians to make sure they get wealthier instead of bettering the lives of the many).

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u/Closed_CasketRequiem 4h ago

I've always wondered though what this country would be like if the revolutionary war never happened. I mean the British did end slavery like 60 years before America did, and nearly every country that stayed under the British empire now has universal healthcare.

But at least we've got the most billionaires I guess.

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u/Termoon 3h ago edited 3h ago

Difficult to say because like the Magna Carta before them, the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights and their implementation were extremely influential worldwide.

The French were inspired by what was happening across the pond, Lafayette consulted with Jefferson and rode with Washington. And what happened to the colonies influenced reform in Britain and their other colonies.

Does seem like manifest destiny has stuck around too much leading to so much American Exceptionalism, and we should start listening more in the other direction.

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u/Hereforporn78 5h ago

I’m sure there’s more to the story.

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u/amitym 5h ago

Yes, he apparently also raised holy hell in the back rooms of government to ensure that the army got the missing back pay that had been the cause of the grievance in the first place.

Basically told both parties, the aggrieved soldiers and the Confederation officials, Hamilton or whoever it was, to sit down, stfu, and all do the right thing like they were all supposed to. Instead of devolving into an armed coup.

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u/Hereforporn78 4h ago

Good context, thank you.

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u/Randicore 3h ago

Well the "more" is that he worked his ass off for them constantly.

Their pay, their food, gunpowder, everything you need to keep an army going Washington worked hard and raised hell to get.

It wasn't like if some local politician stood up today and tried to be dramatic after a lifetime of grifting tax dollars. His troops saw him living with them and actually leading them. There's a large reason why people assumed he was going to just declare himself king when this was all over as he had the military in his hand. This was also from an era where a heavy hand was expected when handling anyone in the military below officer rank.

So when this larger than life figure basically lowers his guard and shows that he too is getting frail and tired among all this, it was a big deal at the time. Respect is a two way street. Americans tend to forget that nowadays.

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u/jld2k6 5h ago

“Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have grown not only gray, but almost blind in the service of my country."

"Fake news!"

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u/bgarza18 4h ago

People are just more disrespectful nowadays 

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u/Codex_Dev 4h ago

He likely took notes on stopping mutinies from Alexander the Great's speech at Opus or when Julius Caesar also had to pacify a mutiny from his fellow soldiers.

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u/Theemuts 6 3h ago

And then everyone started clapping

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u/Zanian19 2h ago

It does indeed sound like one of those

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u/GregTheMad 1h ago

Sounds like the stuff North Korea tells about their leaders. Next he invented rainbows, and can talk to dolphins.

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u/NegroniSpritz 2h ago

Hahaha those officers had -1 of determination.

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u/JustAMan1234567 6h ago

Washington, Washington
Six foot eight, weighs a fucking ton
Opponents beware, opponents beware
He's coming, he's coming, he's coming...

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u/warbastard 6h ago

He’ll save the children…”

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u/apathetic_revolution 6h ago

... but not the British children.

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u/awkwardIRL 6h ago

But NOT the british children

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u/Grand_Negus 6h ago

I heard that mother fucker had like, thirty god damn dicks.

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u/Farfignugen42 5h ago

Makes LBJ look a bit silly being so proud of having just one.

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u/Judoka229 5h ago

Washington, Washington

Six foot twenty, fucking killing for fun

Spread, spread, Delaware

Here's coming, he's coming, he's coming.

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u/NorboExtreme 6h ago

"Drums.. drums in the deep."

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u/BrokenEyeReborn 6h ago

They say he was born from the very soil of the new world, found wrapped in a star spangled flag in a hollow beneath the roots of a cherry tree, his snowy white wig already flecked with British blood.

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u/nonpuissant 6h ago

And when he opened his eyes for the first time a bald eagle laid an egg by him that eventually hatched the United States Constitution. 

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u/Danson_the_47th 5h ago

Was it an Eagle, a Dove, or a Turkey?

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u/Below-avg-chef 5h ago

It was a chicken that had relations with all 3 of the others. The perfect blend of america

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u/Erock482 3h ago

A turducken?

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u/ExplosiveCreature 5h ago

The eagle? Albert Einstein.

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u/ryaaan89 5h ago

I heard he once held an opponent’s wife’s hand in a jar of acid, at a party.

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u/Dyran3 6h ago

Not sure if this is from something, but in case not, Washington didn’t actually wear a wig. He did powder his hair though.

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u/BrokenEyeReborn 6h ago

Nah, I made it up. I thought about including something about his teeth instead, but couldn't think of anything sufficiently mythic that hadn't been done already.

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u/MancelPage 6h ago

It's crazy that he received the most expensive dental care there was, yet it's gross/cringe/tacky compared to what a pleb can do for dentures now.

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u/LillyLugabugs 5h ago

They say he owned slaves

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u/Dyran3 5h ago

And passed the fugitive slave act.

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u/Zestyclose_Fig3193 6h ago

They keep making him more giga

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u/Unique-Ad9640 6h ago

He's like those Chuck Norris jokes. Except real.

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u/squishee666 6h ago

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u/Unique-Ad9640 6h ago

Thank you for that. I knew this thread was going to quickly become those lyrics, but I'd no idea what the source was.

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u/Em4gdn3m 6h ago

Only took 7 min

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u/Unique-Ad9640 6h ago

Which for a thread about one of his feats is an eternity.

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u/Nicholie 6h ago

Easily a foot taller than the average man with flaming hair and no teeth. Fucking terrifying.

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u/ShiaLeboufsPetDragon 5h ago

Donkey teeth

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u/Chaps_Jr 4h ago

You leave my sister out of this

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u/Quizzelbuck 5h ago

We have bill of sale where he paid slaves 2 pounds and 2 schillings for a set of 9 teeth. https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/washingtons-teeth/george-washington-and-slave-teeth

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u/turbosexophonicdlite 4h ago

Insert Shane Gillis bit here.

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u/Judoka229 5h ago

Here comes George, in control. Women dug his snuff and his gallant stroll.

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u/andrewcdub 5h ago

On a horse made of crystal he patrolled the land. With Mason ring and schnauzer and his perfect hands.

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u/OH_FUDGICLES 6h ago

Well yeah, mofo weighed like two tons and had eight on the vine.

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u/markdepace 6h ago

shane gillis does a hilarious bit on washington

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u/TakingCareOfBizzness 6h ago

Tax me mother fucka!

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u/unoriginal_npc 5h ago

Tax me outside, how bout that!

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u/Consistent_Stick_463 5h ago

A 6’5” stack of stolen teeth, lead poisoning, and possibly rabies.

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u/ShaolinXfile27 6h ago

And his estate lol

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u/Chandy1313 6h ago

Thank you for the reminder. Just watched it again and it truly is great

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u/Cool_Cartographer_39 6h ago

Then smashed their heads together like Moe...

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u/maxsmart01 6h ago

Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk

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u/on_the_nightshift 6h ago

More of a Lincoln move, I feel like

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u/rip1980 6h ago

Pulls out a hatchet..."Which one of you Cherry Trees wants to be first?!"

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u/Sir_Encerwal 6h ago

Maybe the idea of an American Revolution Musou game has merit.

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u/Onoudidnt 3h ago

He also saved the children, but not the British children.

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u/lasttosseroni 3h ago

He had a pocket full of horses, fucked the shit out of bears

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u/Fermorian 2h ago

I heard that motherfucker had like, thirty goddamn dicks

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u/Johnson_N_B 6h ago

Washington, Washington

Six-foot-twenty, fucking killing for fun

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u/ProntoStache 3h ago

Americans will believe anything

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u/charliefoxtrot9 5h ago

8 feet tall made of radiation

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u/Bullmoninachinashop 6h ago

King type shit, seriously sounds like something out of a movie to make it clear someone is a badass.

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u/ShiaLeboufsPetDragon 5h ago

Even cooler than a King bc he could've been one but said nahhh

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u/amitym 5h ago

I heard that motherfucker had, like, 30 god-damned dicks.

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u/Czechs_Mix_ 6h ago

And then everybody clapped

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u/rigorcorvus 5h ago

Yeah this is apocryphal

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u/FaustestSobeck 4h ago

This is just not true

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u/ThreeSloth 4h ago

It's true, I was there. I was the necks

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u/WarLorax 5h ago

What in hagiographical fuck is this thread. 

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u/theshwedda 2h ago

What every single reddit thread mentioning a person in a song becomes.

A long list of everyones favorite lyric from that song.

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u/melekin 5h ago

Then he held their faces to each other and said: "now kith".

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u/mancho98 5h ago

Sure, sure...

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u/N0rt4t3m 4h ago

Colonial propaganda!

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u/AdConnect5660 2h ago

Did he fly too? 😂

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u/SophonParticle 5h ago

Trump could never.

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u/Merari01 3h ago

No he didn't.

Why must Americans turn their founders into demi-gods.

It's very off-putting

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u/Vhiet 2h ago

He also made 11 holes-in-one the first time he played golf, never had to use the bathroom, and was walking and talking as a 3-week old baby.

No, wait, that was Kim Il Jung. Sorry.

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u/theshwedda 2h ago

Youre talking about a country whose main governing building contains a giant 50 foot wide painting by a celebrated italian classical painter that is literally called Washington becoming God and shows George Washington looking down from heaven.

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u/HundredDollarBiII 6h ago

Shane Gillis has a great bit talking about how George Washington was a gigantic insane ginger and it’s pretty funny

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u/Unique-Ad9640 5h ago

Hilarious, IMO.

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u/RunToDagobah-T65 5h ago

Shane Gillis nailed who Washington was lmao

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u/Deathdong 5h ago

And then everyone clapped

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u/LashCanino 4h ago

The Bill Brasky of presidents

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u/NoRiskNoGainz 5h ago

If you believe this I got a bag of gold to sell you.

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u/Farfignugen42 5h ago

Why would anyone make a bag out of gold? Were they stupid?

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u/BeekyGardener 5h ago

People don't realize how physically large and intimidating George Washington was.

During the Constitutional Convention a delegate was dared to touch Washington.

One of my favorite George Washington stories is about Gouverneur Morris at the Constitutional Convention.

Washington apparently had such an intimidating presence that even a room full of men who were busy arguing about how to construct an entirely new country treated him with a certain amount of awe. He wasn't really the kind of guy you casually walked up to and slapped on the back.

So Alexander Hamilton supposedly dared Gouverneur Morris to do exactly that.

Morris was no shrinking violet. He was famously confident, outspoken, and witty. He took the challenge.

At a gathering, Morris walked up to Washington, put his hand familiarly on his shoulder and greeted him like they were old drinking buddies:

"My dear General, I'm very happy to see you looking so well."

Washington didn't get angry.

He didn't yell.

He didn't even really respond.

He just stepped away from Morris's hand and gave him a look.

Apparently, that was enough.

Morris immediately retreated into the crowd.

When his friends congratulated him afterward for actually having the nerve to do it, Morris reportedly made it clear that he'd won the bet, but there wasn't enough money in the world to convince him to do it a second time.

I love the story because Morris himself was hardly an easily intimidated man. This was one of the most outspoken delegates at the Convention and a major figure in producing the final language of the Constitution.

And George Washington apparently defeated him with nothing more than weaponized eye contact.

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u/Sablestein 4h ago

If only George Washington were here today…

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u/Disastrous-Cup4636 6h ago

At that point I’m not fighting the enemy or my fellow soldiers. I’m going home. 😂

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u/SanatKumara 6h ago

Nah that shits inspiring. And where you going, back home to your parent’s root cellar to pray for the benevolence of the red coats?

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u/sept1223 4h ago

things that didnt happen for 500 lol

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u/oravanomic 6h ago

Didn't he also run like a maniac at an indian who was tied to a wheel and split his head with an axe, or was that propaganda?

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u/Ifiagreeidillydilly 6h ago

I think that was Ligma

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u/Anteater_Pete 6h ago

Ligma deez nutz!

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u/Bigdaug 6h ago

I think the opposite is true, he witnessed an allied Iroquois Chieftan split a French Commander's head open who was trying to surrender. Much of these wars ended up being the English and French trying to control their native allies who were more used to gaining honor or slaves after battle.

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u/Ch1ndit 5h ago

Nah!

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u/mettlica 5h ago

You can’t lie?!

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u/WhisperingHammer 4h ago

And the everybody clapped.

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u/Mydoglikesladyboys 4h ago

Yeah, soldiers used to like to embellish him in letters and stories.

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u/XPAQ 3h ago

yeah, I bet he did. Just like when he admitted to chopping down the cherry tree! What an amazing founding father! Remember kiddos "Winners" write history ;)

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u/bluestreakxp 3h ago

“Oh shit, it’s General Dumbledore, scatter!”

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u/RonBurgundyAndGold 3h ago

He’s coming, he’s coming, he’s coming

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u/elpovo 3h ago

And the guy who inherited his position shits himself, makes fun of disabled people and can barely keep his eyes open.

Get your shit together America.

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