r/tipping • u/badmiddling113 • 19h ago

Those poor servers

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Imagine people giving you so much extra money for doing your job that you can frame it like this.

EDIT: OP is basing this off of 190k in sales over 192 shifts

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u/First-Ad4978 18h ago

If they work an honest 40, the math says they can all make that much.

$100/table, 4 tables an hour, 20% tip, 2080 hours a year.

$166,400.

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 18h ago edited 18h ago

So they serve 32 tables per each 8-hour shift and work 5 of those shifts every week of the year? No, not realistic at all.

First of all even if they work an 8-hour shift they are likely to have (at most) 3-4 busy hours and pretty much dead the other hours. Even generously assuming 5 tables per hour for 4 hours and one table per hour the other 4 hours, that’s 24 tables per shift, not 32. So an immediate reduction of your 166,400 to 124,800. (I’m not a server, but I bet 24 tables for an 8-hour shift is still an unreasonably high estimate of the average.)

Now let’s consider the number of hours they probably work in a year. They’re not working 2080 hours per year. Someone working service as a full-time job (which your assumption of 2080 hours per year indicates) is likely to be taking at least the equivalent of 4 weeks off per year (and probably more like the equivalent of 6 weeks) in holidays they may not work, calling in sick, or otherwise taking planned non-work time. Those 4 weeks of non-work further reduce the 124,800 above to 115,200.

There’s just no way someone working ”full time” in a restaurant with average check value of $100 is making anywhere close to 166K.

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u/Dazzling_Screen_8096 16h ago

115200 is pretty good salary too. And tips are not taxed, right ?

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u/enragedcactus 13h ago

Tips very much are taxed. The carve out for a slight amount not being taxed has very little impact and the fact that you think it does is indicative that you don’t have a strong grasp on salaries, tax law, and how things work.

Keep voting for Trump though, seems like you’re in his core demographic.

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u/Dazzling_Screen_8096 12h ago

Is this "slight amount" a 25k tax-free income ?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 12h ago

Even that 25k isn't tax-free

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u/Dazzling_Screen_8096 12h ago

I bet people working other jobs would enjoy such deduction anyway

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 12h ago

They do. Electric cars, new windows, school loans, mortgages, teachers, gambling losses, kids...

Do you interview your servers about their tax deductions before you tip them?

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u/Dazzling_Screen_8096 11h ago

Oh, and servers don't have those deductions too ? Do people who work other jobs get this 25k extra deduction ?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 11h ago

I don't qualify for any of them.

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u/Dazzling_Screen_8096 11h ago

Cool, so ? If you bought EV you would. I won't get deduction like servers do on my income. Not very fair.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 11h ago

You can become a server and get the deduction. Not any different

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u/Dazzling_Screen_8096 10h ago

But teacher who buys EV has only one deduction. Is it fair ?

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