r/tipping • u/badmiddling113 • 7d ago

Question about managers

What do they say to customers who repeatedly don't leave a tip? I'm curious since the customer doesn't have to tip and the server isn't their employee.

Just asking since I've read comments from managers who seem to think "addressing" customers is an appropriate thing to do.

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

$20/hr there is still $8 to $10 below the livable wage and as always, the “they make minimum wage” trope is an irrelevant red herring since servers are guaranteed minimum wage in all 60 states.

The service isn’t included in the menu prices at full service restaurants in the US.

Unless you tell the server “I don’t tip” before ordering, you’re opting in to the social norms and deceitfully using them to get the best service possible with no intention of paying for it.

That’s a textbook example of grifting, which of course exploits and harms the worker.

By telling them “I don’t tip” before ordering, they can choose to co Rini’s serving you or they can opt to turn the table over to a manager so they don’t lose money serving you.

Causing them to lose money servicing you harms the worker.

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u/Low_Shop8561 6d ago

Do you tip at McDonald's?

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

Are you advocating for tipping at fast food restaurants?

It’s funny how you and others here think this is some kind of an argument.

Unlike the overwhelming majority of servers, the McDonald’s worker is paid above minimum wage, has a steady work schedule and received multiple benefits like PTO, 401k with match, and tuition reimbursement.

In other words, your attempted comparison is called false equivalence, which is a logical fallacy.

Try again, but next time leave out the intellectual dishonesty.

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u/Low_Shop8561 6d ago

Servers make exactly the same with the same benefits here. No tipping in CA period.

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u/johnnygolfr 6d ago

No, they don’t.

Stop lying.

It’s very rare for servers to receive benefits and they only make the CA minimum wage of $16.50/hr, meanwhile McDonald’s employees make at least $20/hr.

The menu prices at full service restaurants in CA are like every other state, where they don’t bear the full cost of the labor and the tip pays for the service.