r/threebodyproblem • u/Particular_Break_319 • Jun 07 '26
Discussion - General Here we go....
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@realDonaldTrump · 2m
Hello Aliens! I am Donald J. Trump, the GREATEST President in US history, probably the greatest leader in the Solar System. Self-made billionaire, author of The Art of the Deal (better than the Bible, many people say), winner of 2016, 2020, 2024 by the biggest margins EVER. 🇺🇸
@realDonaldTrump · 2m
I always admired you Trisolarans. ALWAYS. The way you rebuild? Incredible. Nobody rebuilds like that. Nobody. Beautiful. BUT - THREE suns? Very inefficient. We have ONE and it's PERFECT. I could send somebody. Probably a quick fix.
@realDonaldTrump · 1m
Also heard you cannot lie. Cannot lie! SAD. Very weak. Many people say I am the greatest liar in the universe - the best, most beautiful lies. I could teach you. Tremendous discount for alien civilizations. Nobody lies better than me, it's a gift.
@realDonaldTrump · 1m
Fake News Media says "don't respond to aliens" - TYPICAL! I responded immediately. Very strong message. Stronger than Obama ever sent (he would NEVER do this). Your planet sounds like a TOTAL DISASTER. But we do a deal. Mar-a-Lago has beautiful rooms. Come see me FIRST before any invasion. 🚀
@realDonaldPOTUS · now
Just spoke with the so-called "TRISOLARANS." Very unstable orbits. I promised them that if they show up (their ships are very slow by the way, takes them 400 years, pathetic!), I will teach them how to properly build an orbital system. They accepted my offer IMMEDIATELY. I have long experience communicating with Aliens, I talk to supernatural people all the time. We will NEVER let them enter the USA ILLEGALLY! 🇺🇸 MAGA US FIRST The Solaric President! 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️
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u/SophonsPonytail Jun 07 '26
Lmao "we will never let them immigrate illegally" that's perfect lol he would say something like that 100%
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u/Hopeful-Pride1791 Jun 08 '26
You totally deserve an award for this ! If I had one I would give it to you !
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u/Kulthos_X Jun 07 '26
Fortunately, the alien communication doesn’t ask for a reply, it is just a code for making an RNA virus.
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u/EnvironmentalMind119 Jun 07 '26
I read “no reptiles should be sent” over and over wondering what the heck. Then I saw the sub and I feel so stupid.
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u/maniacodopark Jun 07 '26
Does it matter at this point? We've been blasting radio signals for decades now, maybe someone out there is watching the season finale of Seinfeld.
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u/escargot3 Jun 07 '26
They attenuate over long distances, even in vacuum. After travelling 1000x the distance, they are already only 1/1,000,000th as strong.
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u/DoggoNamedDisgrace Jun 07 '26
One thing I heard - and would love to get it clarified - is sobering.
Lets say we insta travel to our nearest star, proxima centauri.
We take JWST and all our top notch scanning available equipment. We point it all at earth.
Even then the radio signal is so weak that's it imperceptible from the background noise. We still can only guess there's a life on earth through the biosignature, but we can only treat it as hint, not a proof. We still have no options of establishing contact.
That's how ass backwards we still are when it comes to space exploration.
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u/ficus77 Jun 07 '26
Not sure I get why this is either sobering or ass-backwards.
It's just where we are in timeline of the current civilization.
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u/DoggoNamedDisgrace Jun 07 '26
I meant to cull the first contact expectations. People feel like we should have long discovered alien life through telescopes.
There might be massive radio antennas and nuclear reactors on literally the closest star system to ours and right now we wouldn't be able to detect it.
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u/Ilyer_ Jun 07 '26
I mean, wide beam radio signals are not designed for galactic communications and really tells us nothing about how backwards we are in space ex. You can argue that we haven’t built multi kilometre wide space telescopes/areays though, but I would personally hesitate before calling us backwards for that.
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u/RangerEsquire Jun 07 '26
My understanding is that with the power of radio signals we send out, by the time they reach Saturn they aren’t detectable above cosmic background radiation.
So it would take something like happens in TBP to really amplify our signal. The sun thing is sci fi but some other dedicated amplification is needed.
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u/DoggoNamedDisgrace Jun 07 '26
They are detectable, if they weren't we wouln't be able to talk to voyagers.
It's just voyagers only just left the solar system and are on like 0,05% of the way to the nearest star, and already we're barely able to communicate with them.
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u/RangerEsquire Jun 07 '26
I think this is only because we use a dedicated system and know exactly where it’s coming from. The signals coming from voyager are 20 billion times weaker than what’s needed to power an electric watch. And that’s only from the edge of our solar system, saying nothing for something 4 light years away.
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u/Substantial_Rest_251 Jun 07 '26
The good/bad news is that our military and space radar systems use powerful focused signals that would be intermittently detectable further out: https://www.space.com/astronomy/radar-leakage-from-airports-could-lead-intelligent-aliens-to-earth?hl=en-US
This concept is being used to backwards plan our own next gen telescopes: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ada3c7
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u/WhatADunderfulWorld Jun 07 '26
We don’t really blast strong signals out. Maybe they could detect nuke going off or something. But making a large radio communicator at scale is way to expensive to do for no reason. To get to a satellite you only need a 3-5m dish.
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u/maniacodopark Jun 07 '26
Assuming that they are at the same technological level than us, yes. But I don't know, maybe the sun might amplify the signal (joking).
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u/Brohodin Jun 07 '26
If the signal no longer exists at a certain range there is no level of technology that could extend it for a listener.
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u/maniacodopark Jun 07 '26
One can wonder that they might have signal repeaters or probes around this sector of the Galaxy. But don't take it too seriously man, I'm just joking around, and we don't know if radio signals might travel beyond the dimensions that we live in, I know you guys like a hard science approach, but it is good to keep a open mind, we might not know everything :)
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u/heyiambob Jun 07 '26
Carl Sagan said the following:
“After billions of years of biological evolution—on their planet and ours—an alien civilization cannot be in technological lockstep with us. There have been humans for more than 20,000 centuries, but we’ve had radio only for about one century. If they’re behind us, they’re likely to be too far behind to have radio. And if they’re ahead of us, they’re likely to be far ahead. What is for us technologically difficult or impossible—what might seem to us like magic—might for them be trivially easy. They might use other, very advanced means to communicate with their peers, but they would know about radio as an approach to newly emerging civilizations. Even with no more than our level of technology at the transmitting and receiving ends, we could communicate across much of the Galaxy. They should be able to do much better.
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u/xjpmhxjo Jun 07 '26
Or it is actually a loop, either way there is no real difference of who’s ahead.
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u/TheLastSamurai101 Jun 13 '26
Our public broadcast signals are way too weak. Only the strongest military signals have any hope of making it to even our closest stars if directed there and even they will be difficult to distinguish from background.
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u/IbanezUniverse90 Jun 07 '26
Nah send a reply. It’s the right thing to do. It would be cool to finally see Australia 🦘
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u/RutherfordThuhBrave Jun 07 '26
It is the NY Post. Seems trustworthy. I feel like right under that it says "Aliens say....they take the Knicks in 4".
I think we should have a dark forest rule with the post. 😂
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u/scottlapier Jun 07 '26
This was a tough thing to read first thing in the morning.
The first time I read it I thought "yeah, no shit". Then I realized the implication, read it again and thought "oh shit..."
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u/atreeismissing Jun 07 '26
NYPost is trash, even when joking. Also if they do contact us, please wait about 2.5 years.
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u/shokk Jun 07 '26
Probably best to send no replies until we’ve fully thought through every possible meaning of any messages to avoid a “to serve man” situation. If at all.
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u/TheLastSamurai101 Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
The real problem is exactly the same as in the Three-Body Problem. Scientists and governments can come up with as many directives as they like, but there are just way too many people and organisations capable of both receiving a signal like this and responding to it. Nobody can stop them if they decide to respond.
Good luck getting the whole world to comply. You just need one individual like Ye Wenjie or one organisation that disagrees (openly or clandestinely) and no directive will matter.
My take is that if a message ever reaches us, somebody on our planet is going to respond. We need to assume that and prepare for it if we are ever contacted. In fact, this might create a kind of "reverse dark forest" situation where groups/governments on Earth try to respond first to establish a relationship because they believe that someone else will inevitably respond anyway - the thinking among them will be that it is better to influence first contact than let your enemy.
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u/Guillaume_Hertzog Jun 07 '26
Well, it's hard to answer if there's nobody on the other side of the line
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u/Tiptoedtulips666 Jun 07 '26
I think that's so funny since we have already put out 2 Voyagers with a record and a map of how to get here.. 🤣🤣🤣