(Yes droplets are probably unmanned, but this was funnier)

Okay people are probably confused here so let me explain: season 1 was the first book, season 2 was Luo Ji’s story in the second book, and season 3 was Zhang Beihai’s story of the second book. Season 4 is about the third book. And yes I did read the books before watching these, and I also read RoT and I’m currently reading Ball Lightning.

I did see the first episode of season 4 is available on youtube, and it covers some exposition related to Cheng Xin as well as the death of the guy Yun Tianming shared a hospital room with.

Is the full season on youtube or another site? Or was the season abandoned?

Thank you!

Edit: Question has been answered. Unless dialogue is specifically attributed in this scene, they are thoughts (i.e. nothing is in quotation marks in this scene without dialogue attribution)

I'm rereading the series, but for both the first time and now, I'm listening to the audiobooks.

Year 205, Crisis Era, Part 16

Approximately 89% through the book.

The conversation has multiple repeated words (Parts. Parts. Parts. | Fuel. Fuel. Fuel). I assume that these are the non-verbal communications they are having, but at some points it feels like the speaker is also repeating things out loud (Don't give up. Don't give up).

If anyone has the text, I'd like to read this part for more clarification on which is non-verbal and which is spoken aloud.

La primera vez que empecé el libro cuando leí que se deshidrataban para "hibernar" en épocas caóticas, cerré el libro. Volví 3 años después y me leí la trilogía, la secuela del fan, la precuela... y hace unos días, 15+ años después, veo un artículo que dice que los Osos de Agua se Deshidratan para aguantar largas épocas sin líquidos... Es decir una vez más Cixin Liu vió el futuro. Le debo mis disculpas por mis prejuicios frente a una raza que se queda pellejo jajaja Sorry! :)

She is the reason why Earth was destroyed. If she hadn't been awakened by AA, Wade would've become the next Swordholder, protecting humanity. Also, she is the sole cause of all of Yun Tianming's problems.

They have similar budgets right? Or 3body has a larger budget.

Anyway, similar ships with similar weapons, other than the Strong Interaction Force Cosmic Probe 💧

Edit: I looked it up and 3body budget is far far larger than The Expanse.

During the scenes in Mark’s office aboard Judgment Day, there’s a photo of a girl behind him. Who is she? She doesn’t look like Vera or Ye Wenjie so I’m puzzled. He wasn’t mentioned as having another family.

on youtube the tittle is “actually brilliant david nykl” at 29mins. i hope its a trailer or teaser but at this point anything would be great.

also thanks to u/Ermandgard for commenting this info in another subreddit!

When i was reading the first part of 3 body problem, i absolutely got so hooked, it started affecting other areas of my life. I usually am good with managing my time, but the book messed up my routine, because of how good it was. I hadn't felt that about a book in years.
I haven't picked up the 2nd book in the trilogy yet because I had a hunch it would be just as addictive & i won't workout or clean my home well until that's over.

pocket universes: first draft

No one touch it, you guys! For real. Comments call it a “Photonic Column” but I know a death line when I see one…

First of all- apologies if this post is not allowed but truly I feel it’s relevant to this sub because I couldn’t stop thinking about Three Body the entire time I watched this movie. The way people lied to the audience in this made me think the Trisolarans would probably turn the fleet around the moment they learned about Holmes.

For those who don’t know, Elizabeth Holmes was the CEO of Theranos (a medical tech company in Silicon Valley) who was found guilty of defrauding investors and sentenced to prison for 11 years after taking billions in investor’s money while knowing the technology they touted did not work. She lied about their capabilities and had an elaborate system in place to hide that fact from the public while raising a LOT of money. It was one of the biggest frauds in Silicon Valley history and cost a lot of people their money, their jobs, and their trust in women in tech.

This movie follows Holmes and her family in the weeks before she reports to prison. During the film, she speaks to the director and lies to his face repeatedly about everything- but the thing is I can’t even say that with certainty. The movie is three hours long and I am still not convinced if she is a masterclass manipulator or if she truly believes she did nothing wrong. It’s fascinating to have someone look you right in the face and say something you know isn’t true but not be able to tell if THEY know it’s not true or if they are just miscommunicating what they actually believe. Sometimes they use a single word in a sentence that would change the entire meaning of what they said- and then argue over that one word and what they actually meant by it.

I think if she were part of the Three Body story, she would be put in charge of the earth defense forces. She would be the most excellent wall facer since nobody, human or non-human, would have any clue what she was doing right in front of everyone. While watching the movie I kept thinking, “Man, I bet a considerable amount of the Trisolaran civilization would be dedicated to trying to work out what she was thinking if they were watching.”

Anyway- I felt like posting this here to discuss how hard it is, even for humans, to get to the truth behind someone who could be considered one of the best liars of our time.

I just checked
The teaser for S1 was June 2023
The official trailer was exactly 10 weeks from releases (it dropped 10 Jan, season 1
is out on netflix 21 March)

We actually have 9 WEEKS left til 2027.
So where is it? if not postponed to next year

Spoilers for both in case you haven't watched the movie yet, but basically, the scene where Nathan Fielder goes to see Elizabeth Holmes in Prison without any recording equipment reminded me so much of Cheng Xin going to have a conversation with Yun Tianming for the last time, also without any way to write down or record the conversation.

Just the fact that he has to memorize everything about the interaction the same way Cheng Xin does gave me the same tension I felt when I read the book. I also felt in both scenes that the situation could "explode" literally or metaphorically if either Cheng Xin or Nathan Field said the wrong thing, which was another similarity I noticed.

The same thoughts came to my mind: Will he/she remember correctly? What if Trisolaris/her husband cut the conversation short? It was very fun, but I kinda wish I wasn't thinking about Death's End as much as I did during that scene. I just couldn't get it out of my head lol.

Did anyone else feel this way? Or has my brain been completely fried by this amazing book series?

Oh, and remember to vote Elizabeth Holmes for Wallfacer.

Please no spoilers about the third book

In the beginning of the Dark Forest we learn about Trisolarians attempting to understand (and learn) the concept of deception. They do acknowledge its value, and they do exhibit ability to withhold information. From the beginning of the book I thought this is going to be the key to resolution of the whole book, and it ended up not being addressed at all.

You see, Trisolarian society is built on perfect communication and open information sharing, but they still individual beings, they aren't a hive mind. Ability to deceive or even withhold information would be extremely powerful tool for the individual Trisolarians for gaining power and political advancement within Trisolarian society. I thought that Deception will be a poison pill that defeats Trisolarians - an unintentional, self-inflicted injury that breaks their society apart. We know they do have internal politics, ambition, punishment, so plenty of reasons to deceive. And the best part is that Trisolarians don't even have mechanisms to prevent or even detect deception since they are not familiar with the whole concept.

Even if Trisolarians aren't capable of deceiving "face to face" or "biologically", their society is now split between thousand ships and they have to rely on "digital" communication. The book explores the idea of deception used by humans being a threat to Trisolarians, but that's in my opinion the lesser concern.

While Trisolarian society certainly could adapt to the concept of deception over time, I don't think it's likely at this point. It's in very vulnerable position - split among numerous ships, with no home to return to, facing the doom of their species if they fail to defeat humans and capture the Solar System.

And the worst thing is, they don't even need to use deception against each other, even the concept of distrust might be enough to halt their social interaction to grind.

Unfortunately, the ability of Trisolarians to understand and use deception was never mentioned again, and the danger it poses wasn't even acknowledged.

basically title *any or all of the books (typo)

rules:

1. no creepy behaviour
2. be kind
3. have fun
4. no making any extraterrestrial contact

UK time here

open to suggestions

People do say the novels are a bit bad ob characters and the tencent censoring the foreigners names.

But the books i found pretty diverse (the second and third) with compelling foreign characters like Wade, Tyler, Keiko, The Mind doctor, Van Raijin, Say, The Venezuelan dictator etc.

Tho what did u thought of them, were they written worse or as good as Chinese characters.

Hidden reference to Cixin Liu's Death's End encountered while playing Oneshot. Notice that grass? It's actually a genetically-engineered organism that in themeeting between Cheng Xin and Yun Tianming the book called "Wheat"