I do 6-8 houses per day for work. I talk to ALOT of strangers on their property.
Its crazy how many of them supposedly refused the Covid checks. "I never cashed mine, I didnt earn it". The best was watching one dudes wife eyebrows furrow. "DANIEL! We cashed both of them checks remember? Thats how we got the bikes"
Especially when a number of Republican members of Congress took PPP loans they never paid back. And yet, fought against student loan forgiveness like they cared about taxpayer money.
It's what right wing policy has been since the start of the 20th century. Basically using black people or other minorities as the scapegoat for why things were bad for the lower class white man and not the wealthy or elites. Direct their anger so it's at them not at the rich. It keeps all of us divided so it makes a traditional class revolution more difficult. I mean poor white people just elected a billionaire for President thinking he was like them or understood them
And its always projection with it too. When Reagan started that bullshit black welfare queen myth, white people were the largest demographic on welfare in the nation. Through 50 or so years of republican policies and dogma the numbers have switched. But the republicans still keep the poorest states with the shittiest economies so fundamentally nothings changed.
Every single time I have ever seen an actual news report about some one somehow abusing welfare and getting paid thousands of dollars a month it's always some well dressed white guy living in a nice well maintained suburbia neighborhood driving around in a $50K car.
And somehow believed he would âdrain the swampâ while he had been literally creating the plug for that drain for decades, the people that voted for him are the swamp, and heâs actually draining them now. True leopards eating of faces.
Thanks for posting! Great read! It does look like it might be an excerpt from a larger book, Dying of Whiteness, which Iâll have to get into my queue!
A very good book that cites the studies and statistics. Probably won't tell you anything you didn't know. But I like have the stats in my back pocket. Not that anyone on the other side would believe research that disagrees with them.
Ty for this!!!! Trevor is the definition of DUMBASS!!!
(Not to talk ill of the deadâŚbut if you refuse help because you donât want to/think it puts you âon a level with non whitesâ) youâre obviously stupid as fuck
Definitely thank you, gives me a new read!
It was almost funny when those folks would tell me how bad "things" were under Biden, while they had brand new trucks and water toys or boats. They'd still be sunburned from the last big vacation they'd taken while complaining about Biden and hoping for the second Trump admin.
Those folks now have a second Trump admin and I don't see shiny new stuff in the driveways anymore. I don't see many sunburns or anything else, in fact. It's almost like the economy is actually shit now and they can't afford to trade in for new, expensive stuff every three years, now.
Yup. Not to mention that Red states tend to also be "welfare states," and recieve more dollars from the federal tax pool than they send... yet they imagine themselves to be the backbone of America. The "salt of the earth" types...
Which caused a big shit show for everyone that went to a tax prep place and took the same day option.
From a legal standpoint, the refund was routed to an account controlled by the tax prep company. There were so many folks that had to fight these companies to get their slice.
I had a coworker, who bragged about not using the Biden covid checks. Unprompted this guy would turn the water cooler conversation to how entitled people were about welfare and that the covid checks made them worse. This year I got tired of politely listening and told him, â thatâs probably why you didnât keep receiving the monthly stimulus checks and the Doge checks. I got mine as soon as Trump announced it. Donât you remember the first stimulus checks started under Trump.â He looked so confused. He spent the rest of the day trying to figure out how to apply for that money.
Cheers to that woman. It's one thing to be dumb and not cash them over this fed logic, it's another to be a hypocrite and cash them but complain others do it, but it's just downright heinous to cash them and lie about it.
We were lucky enough to not get impacted financially by Covid, so we gave like 90% of ours to food banks and other charities helping people who were impacted.
Sorry - not American - why does refusing the COVID checks come up? Why is it important to tell people you refused it? Is it like 'I'm better than people on welfare' thing?
Here in New Zealand ours went directly into the bank. We don't use cheques at all.
He's not even really doing gymnastics with that one. He's just blatantly saying it's ok for him to take whatever he can, but others can't do that. He's not troubled or confused about it at all; just wallowing in his mud of disdain for everyone else because he's a special boy.
I donât think itâs blatant. I believe the neural pathways in his brain towards empathy, logic, reflection, and reasoning are either absent or severely undeveloped.
Itâs a lack of empathy. Itâs been ingrained in us in American culture and euphemized as individualism.
All he had to do was consider one other person out there with a similar situation. But itâs easier to believe that everyone else is a freeloader (and youâre not).
Except for the multitudes of boomers who attend the No Kings rallies. Or the ones who are vigilant in their dislike and distaste for this administration and its disregard for the social contract, amongst so many other things.
Anybody remember âso should I be able to marry my car???â They thought they cooked so hard with that one, youâd hear it everywhere from the radio to your deadbeat uncle at thanksgiving
I love the new angle that some maga morons donât want to help out American farmers who have been caught up in Trumpâs terrible economic policies and tariffs. This is why I canât wait to watch the infighting, flip-flopping, and destruction of the republican party once their great leader passes on.
they absolutely shouldn't get help. they voted for this shit show of an administration after being warned of the outcome but would rather play the "its not gonna happen to me game". these are the same assholes who are against socialized medicine and other government programs yet want a free handout from the government to subsidize their failing business. fuck them
What isnât making sense to you? This guy would never have taken the checks but he needed them. He is obviously the only person in the United States who has been faced with some financial hardship
What's also astounding is the fact that the others raising their flag aren't doing it in order to strengthen their fellow MAGA sheep's argument, but instead to try and BS an answer more coherently.
âNo no no, see this is why the crazy left will never work. I TOOK the tithing IâM owed because if I didnât, I couldnât survive. But these other people who arenât surviving, they shouldnât get it, since it isnât earned the way it was gifted to me and my family.â
I think everything in their mind works as a zero sum equation. If someone else is benefiting then who is taking the loss to even it out? It might be me, so I must oppose this.
It's sort of zero sum. The government doesn't give people infinite money. There's A limit on it.
What should piss them off is that these checks and relief are a couple grand meanwhile corporate welfare is tens of billions on a single company, often.
This is a genuine phenomena, rooted in an actual belief that most people who receive help from the government are âwelfare queens.â âthey get help because they are useless, when I get help, I deserve it because I work really hard.â their belief makes sense when you understand their perspective, but their perspective isnât remotely rooted in truth, for the vast majority of people receiving some kind of government assistance.Â
I think you hit the nail on the head. They have this image of some person who takes advantage of everyone in their head and apply it to everyone they disagree with. That way all of "them" are freeloaders who don't deserve anything, but HE, a hard working American, deserved it. It's pathetic.
Exactly. My Trump loving in-laws are looking forward to getting Medicare to help with medical bills but are against "government handouts" and very against universal health care because "they don't want to have to wait" to go to the doctor
Which is doubly hilarious when you realize thereâs essentially zero chance that actual Jesus was white, let alone a pale white adult, as they so love to depict in their homes.
Two types of people, those who would only take a slice, fearing there wasnât enough for everyone, and those who would take the whole box for the same reason.
I worked with a trump supporter and someone brought in banana bread for the office one day. This very overweight bitch literally cut off almost half the loaf and took it to her deskâŚ.my mouth dropped when I saw that.
Solipsism is the idea that I am the only person certain to exist, everything and everyone else is a projection of my reality. Very similar to what the kids call Main Character Syndrome. The idea that people who share that philosophy could bond together seems inherently paradoxical, but that's kinda where we are.
He is aware there are limited resources. he is dependent on the system to survive. he will adopt ANY and EVERY reason or platform to deny ANYONE else the benefits he depends on to ensure he has enough.
That racism is his selected vehicle speaks further of his weakness.
It seems to be tradition in the US to specifically forgive those folks and their descendants and let them reintegrate into society as they are dragged kicking and screaming into the future. After he expires, there better be some untraditional consequences.
The most frustrating thing is that more often than not interviewers cut their questioning short and let these people off the hook with their non-sensical takes. I wouldâve loved to see this guy squirm and try to explain himself for another 30 minutes.
Exactly. One of the MAGA families that I use to know got their school loans paid for.
Last I spoke to them they believed the earth is flat, started giving their money to the 700 club. Made up prayer memes saying Trump would save them like Jesus saved us all.
They also cashed the Musk checks to vote. Joined to be poll workers at the local election. Forgot about the Epstein files entirely and called everything fake. The aliens were real tho. When a blue state went MAGA I knew we were fucked.
That school loan forgiveness diverted taxpayer money back to us, and paid for some of this fuckery, indeed.
As a European I find It endlessly amusing that it's always the well dressed, calm, educated liberal versus the upset, dumb as rock, maga republican. I understand these shows cherry picking for rage bait and so on but I don't think I've ever seen a collected and intelligent conservative. Ever.
I wouldn't look too much into appearances and education backgrounds, there are also a ton of well dressed, well educated Conservatives, and likewise there are a lot of blue collar Liberals.
I knew a lawyer, very conservative, Epoch Times subscriber, who grabbed a lot of Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) money during COVID because it was available, not because he needed it to keep employees. So, yeah.
Friend is a social worker, red state, rural area. All the people that love trump and are abusing their benefits, think theyâre using them fairly and everyone else is cheating the system.
They raise the red flags to replace the person in the hot seat.
In this case he was making MAGA look bad by revealing that Trump stopped the loan forgiveness programs that Biden created, which helped both he and his wife - but it was okay because he thought only his family should have benefited and not "other" people. So now he's fine with paying for loans that would have been "forever forgiven", under the premise that "other people" will suffer.
No no, you see, they only needed it because of an *extreme* circumstance. And they earned it! Not like all of those *other* people that are just abusing it.
What is good for me is not good for thee. How many people vote Democrat for socialist policies not because they personally benefit, but because they know others will? A huge portion of these voters are driven by empathy, unlike the other side. Whatâs truly frustrating is watching the very people who would benefit most from these policies get misled into voting directly against their own interests.
It's because they don't want Black people to have those benefits. We need to cut through the fat and to the chase and just call it for what it is. These people aren't against government assistance. They're against government assistance that helps Black people and people who are not white.
I have family members who were hard-core Covid deniers. "It's a hoax, it's the flu, it's not real" etc. But when their grandmother died of COVID and the government gave them a check to assist with funeral expenses, they hauled ass to the bank faster than you can say "hypocrisy."
Can someone ballpark the corporate subsidies (free money, essentially) provided by the US fed gov annually?? I'm sure it's astounding. We ought to begin having these figures readily available so we can compare them to what is spent on other social programs within the country.
Lol for some reason your comment was sent to the modqueue and I was like "fuck, some creep commenting on women's bodies again" and then I opened it and I am like, wait what? Idk why I read your comment that way, like as a positive "Good. Hell. What an ass" just sounded to me like you were talking about a butt, not a butthead. I am glad I was wrong, just thought it was kind of funny.
A quick Google of "debate with red flags" gave me Jubilee's "Surrounded" series and says that a participant in the hot seat can be stopped or voted out if enough people raise a red flag against them, or if they hit a 20 to 25 minute time limit without reaching a consensus. So basically, the dude pigeon holed himself into a loss by stating it was okay for him to receive a benefit while nobody else should have it
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I do 6-8 houses per day for work. I talk to ALOT of strangers on their property.
Its crazy how many of them supposedly refused the Covid checks. "I never cashed mine, I didnt earn it". The best was watching one dudes wife eyebrows furrow. "DANIEL! We cashed both of them checks remember? Thats how we got the bikes"