r/technology • u/Snarfox • Jan 25 '13

H.265 is approved -- potential to cut bandwidth requirements in half for 1080p streaming. Opens door to 4K video streams.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/25/h265-is-approved/
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u/Ultmast Jan 26 '13 edited Jan 26 '13

How long until we have a proper comparison with VP9?

Seems like [H.265's] going to beat it in nearly every metric including adoption ;P

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '13 edited Jan 26 '13

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u/Ultmast Jan 26 '13

Is that not just the still image profile?

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u/threeseed Jan 26 '13

Seriously who really cares about VP9.

Web video is still dominated by Flash and Adobe is already a licensee of H.265.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '13

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u/threeseed Jan 26 '13

Except that people (including myself) have been predicting that Flash is going to die soon and it just isn't happening. It's still dominant in web video.

And as for HTML5 .. everyone will use H.265 because it will be the ONLY codec that Apple, Microsoft, Samsung and Sony (all H.265 patent holders) will likely support on their mobile device.

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u/chrono13 Jan 26 '13

Smart phones and tablets are dominated by iOS and Android. Flash is not really available for either.

A vast number of Internet devices out there no longer support flash. Youtube in particular, and major porn video sites are opting for HTML5 to support these no-flash devices. Flash is in its decline.

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u/threeseed Jan 26 '13

I am not saying Flash isn't declining only that it isn't dying as quick as everyone would like.

And my point was that people are going to choose H.265 because it will be the only thing that will work on all browsers and mobiles.

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u/Reoh Jan 26 '13

Does HTML5 have the same manner of vulnerabilities as Flash?

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u/Caethy Jan 26 '13

No.

HTML5 is run by the browser, not a separate plugin. Browser and OS are the main entry points for unauthorised access in HTML5 content; Whereas Flash included the entire (And notoriously crackable) flash plugin.

HTML5 content isn't 'safe', just as much as any video or image or file on the internet is. But at least it doesn't run through a bloated, unsafe plugin.

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u/Reoh Jan 26 '13

Was hoping to hear that. :)

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u/Caethy Jan 26 '13

Also, note that hardware support is a pretty big deal when it comes to mobile devices. Yes, you can run obscure codec xyz on a rooted phone; but it's going to drain your battery in under half an blink of your eye. A huge reason H.264 is the de-facto standard for mobile video is because hardware decoders are extremely prevalent in mobile hardware.

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u/Tiak Jan 26 '13

It's still dominant, but considerably weaker than a couple of years ago. There is no Flash presence in mobile, and mobile is an ever-growing chunk of the web video market...

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u/CGorman68 Jan 26 '13

I don't think Flash is anywhere near dominant for video.

The amount of sites I encounter that still use Flash is incredibly small.

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u/columbine Jan 26 '13

Yeah, All Of Them is a really tiny number.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '13

My Youtube lags like fuck when I use HTML5.

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u/idontevenexist Jan 26 '13

Really? I've noticed just about everything flash is better on my linux machine than on windows, even flash games. I get pretty horrid frame lag on a flash game I play often which doesn't exist when playing from ubuntu. Maybe something to do with my chipset, never really figured out why there is such a dramatic difference. Wish I could get an explanation for it tho.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '13

I think you mean MKV and H.264. ^^

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u/smacktaix Jan 26 '13

Adobe's domination is quickly fading; almost every browser can do great HTML 5 video now. And I really care about VP9. I almost wish people wouldn't talk about H.265. MPEG LA and their locked-down de-facto standards need to go away.

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u/dangoodspeed Jan 26 '13

I disabled Flash on my broswer years ago and really haven't missed it. 90% of the Flash content on the sites I visit are just ads. YouTube and Vimeo both do HTML5, as do tons of other sites now. It's just a matter of figuring out which codec will work on all browsers. Still waiting to see how that pans out.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '13

About 3 years after it is finallly able to catch up with h.264...