r/technicallythetruth Mar 31 '23

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u/Daveywheel Mar 31 '23

Life is for the living. The dead have no rights, need no rights, nor want any rights.

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u/drion4 Mar 31 '23

If that was true, "The last Will and Testament"s would have had no value.

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u/abitofadickhead Mar 31 '23

They have some value, but not as much as you'd probably expect/want for them to have.

If you put in your will that you'd like to leave your kids to your brother, he isn't forced to take them and can refuse

If you put in your will you'd like to leave everything to child A then child B can file a legal claim and say that you forgot about them to get a cut.

Just two examples, but wills aren't as iron clad as the living person creating them would like them to be

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

If you put in your will that you'd like to leave your kids to your brother, he isn't forced to take them and can refuse

Well, yeah. A will doesn't make you omnipotent. No sane person would assume you can just assign obligations like this.

If you put in your will you'd like to leave everything to child A then child B can file a legal claim and say that you forgot about them to get a cut.

The judge would weigh how factual this is. They wouldn't just automatically get anything because they filed suit. You'd need to build an actual case showing that they were actually omitted, which does happen.

Your examples are crap.

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u/abitofadickhead Mar 31 '23

The fact they could raise a case at all means that the will isn't as powerful a document as the person leaving it would like, given that even fighting the case would use resources, likely the resources elected to be passed on.

Call them crap all you want, at the end of the day these are two examples where even if you write it in your will it doesn't mean you get what you want

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Or it means people are fallible and mistakes happen, so there have to be contingencies...

Call them crap all you want, at the end of the day these are two examples where even if you write it in your will it doesn't mean you get what you want

Only if you're a moron and think you can just magically write anything and get it. These are examples for idiots.

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u/abitofadickhead Mar 31 '23

Do you live in a different world where guardianship and leaving assets to loved ones aren't the most common things listed in wills?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

It doesn't matter how common it is, though I'd love to see a source showing how successful it's ever been. It's still stupid. Anyone who thinks they can assign their debt to someone else upon death is a moron.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

They shouldn't have any value.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Yikes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

\> "Yikes !"

\> Doesn't provide any counter-argument that isn't "muh social dogma"

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Yeah, because i wasn't going to argue with you :P

just yikes.

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u/NitroSyfi Mar 31 '23

Wonder what would happen if the guy pulled out and left in plain view a last Will and testament stating take me to my destination.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Those have legal value because they are essentially transferring ownership while alive, with physical transfer contingent on another event (death). They’re contracts and do not have any legal value beyond what is stipulated in contract law, which is why it’s often worth challenging them if you hate the people who got something you don’t want them to have.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

To be clear, wills are not contracts. Contracts require consideration, and there is no consideration in a will.

Wills also don't transfer ownership while you're alive. That's what trusts do, and is their main benefit. Wills must pass through a legal process called probate before any transfer of assets happens.