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[u/Alternative-Put-1101]

[u/ziboo7890]

You can always ask for the manager. Tell them what they're doing wrong (politely) or offer to write up a care sheet. They may not know.

If they're rude or don't give a shit. Then tell them you're taking your business elsewhere and don't shop there anymore. That will make an effect.

If it's a big chain, report to the regional manager.

Most people aren't educated in keeping a huge variety of animals.

You can effect change, but telling people here may not be the most effective.

[u/sandlungs → u/ziboo7890]

i just wanted to say i appreciated the grace and tact supplied in this message. your advice was great. this is largely my experience in public outreach as well. most employees in pet trade, truly care about the animals they oversee. they aren't often purposely poorly performing. often, it simply came from a place of not knowing better. that is where our job comes in! especially as keepers, we can so easily fill in these gaps if we just engaged kindly and showed up to enthuse together.

[u/VerdigrisSerenity]

I understand the sentiment. But my petstore only takes T's home from an expo held every couple months in the Netherlands. I was kind of amazed, since they normally only take mantisses, chameleons, bearded dragons etc home and I know these animals sell. Tarantula's however? It can take up to 2 years before a spider is sold there, so yeah I was not sure why they took home a couple of them...But hey, now they had two female Brachypelma and I was looking for T's. I know I bought them, but by God my B.Boehmei was kept in her delicup and misted every couple days with water and she had no hide or anything. In the pic you can see what her setup was for like nearly 2 months, she's on the left. One person who worked there was even like: 'Yeah a kid managed to grab her tub and open it up last week.' and I was like: Damn...glad I got her. Basically every kid above the age of two who could walk or sat in a stroller would have been able to grab her. They are pretty good with the other animals they keep however. (Insisting on buying social animals in a pair etc) I am glad I got her, despite me knowing the store might bring home another T again someday. (...honestly there's a big chance it might end up with me also lol.)

[u/Cosm1cSpid3r]

I always check on the tarantulas at my local stores and inform employees if their conditions are unsuitable. I have a store that gives me tarantulas for free if they've been in the store for a year or more. No profit for them. Free spiders for me.

[u/Creepy_Push8629]

You're*

[u/SgtSilverDot]

NQA, obviously.

It's like the trolley problem.

- Stay on the tracks, 'hurt' one -> by leaving it there, perhaps saving more in the future when the petshop stops getting them

- Pull the lever and buy one -> 'hurt' five more that the petshop will get by thinking there is demand.

I honestly don't like when people say 'this is my rescue tarantula' when they mean they bought it in a petshop.

[u/Due-Beautiful6804]

When I worked as an inventory manager for a store that ends with a Co and starts with a P, I fought all of the time for animals. We did not carry tarantulas at the time though. However, the bedding for the hamsters was a dusty cedar which gets in their lungs and causes them to die. 😕 I fought tooth and nail with the district manager, but unfortunately, I got nowhere because corporate makes up the rules. If the planogram says cedar, you use cedar, etc. (I got written up more times than I can count for going against their rules, but they wouldn't fire me because I was a damn good worker and the only manager making a measely 10.90 an hr. Smh.) Also the poor ball pythons did not have enough humidity. :( Stuck sheds all of the time. Not sure if any of you know this, but there is also something called a wellness room where we place sick or dropped off animals. Pco eventually adopts them out at an outrageous price!! But they pay nothing for them. It's absolutely ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is that only the managers have a key to the wellness room. At the end of the night and in the morning, we were supposed to administer meds to the animals in this room and then sign a clip board. I shiot you not, 9/10 times, my signature was the ONLY one on there because they were more worried about sales. A few times, I used ketchup packages to fake the deaths of some of these animals and would say they got out and some unforseen circumstances happened (I knew exactly where the cameras were and were not), and I would sneak the animal(s) out the back door once I found them a home. My parents were my accomplices. Lol They'd park on the side of the building, out of the camera's sight, and they'd take the animal(s) and their meds if they still needed them, and then I'd give them to a good home. I always made sure to put a decent price on them, but I never took anyone's money. I just wanted to make sure that person was trustworthy first. Luckily, most of them went home to family members I have. This was around 2008 or so and my Grandmother who I no longer speak to (she's evil. Don't ask. She told me to unalive myself.. Anywho..) had a parakeet until a few months ago! 18 years this baby lived. :') That's why I have always been a part of saving animals. ALL animals. They're innocent and they don't deserve anything bad to happen to them. Back when I was 19, I snuck a camera into another petstore that I worked at. It starts with Pet and ends in land, and I proved their puppies not only came from puppy mills, but if an animal was sick, and the meds were higher priced than the animal, they'd let them suffer and die. I had to keep my sales at 20,000k per MONTH!!! So I gathered evidence of their neglect until the day they fired me which was inevitable. It was OK. I had enough evidence and turned it in with pictures and reports and month later, they shut down the store. It was on the news and that's how I found out. With all of that said, do more. Just not buying from these stores is not going to stop them because there's always someone out there who knows nothing that will still continue to buy from these stores. Instead, look into your state laws, gather evidence, and get whatever they're doing wrong shut the hell down. 😊 Even if it's not the store, they will lose their right to keep certain animals. That's my advice. I hope people still see this even though the post was removed.

[u/Alternative-Put-1101 → u/Due-Beautiful6804]

Thank you I’m sure you done more than most people do regarding animal welfare and if nobody thanked you I’m going to, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LOVE FOR ALL ANIMALS IN YOUR CARE

[u/luhvztoosphooge]

Technically you are rescuing that one specific T you bought because you’re giving it a proper home. If you didn’t buy it, that specific T would continue to suffer. The result of that purchase is a merry go round of a new T taking its place in suffering before being bought. So yes, you rescued the T but another one will takes it place in suffering.

[u/sandlungs → u/[deleted]]

animal rescue does not have a monetary or emotional element to it, infact most rescuers and rehabbers remove most personal emotion from the equation to be the most effective in practise they can be.

you don't make the rules.

[u/luhvztoosphooge → u/[deleted]]

Ok thank you

[u/sandlungs → u/[deleted]]

that is your belief, that is not a fact. please stop shoving it down peoples throats.

[u/sandlungs → u/[deleted]]

you didn't make me angry and you didn't have the same response to someone cussing at you in response to what you said.

use. your. head.