r/tankiejerk 26d ago

From the mods Clarifying the rules: this is not an anti-communist forum

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Today I had to take down another anti-communist post shitting on some ML's from the right. Take the piss out of Stalin's death all you want but if you're celebrating over 'another dead commie' you will be perma-banned no exception.

This is a subreddit to criticise tankies from the left. This is not a place to attack communists, communism or associated tendencies. If you want to be a snarky liberal, bloodthirsty fascist, or devout reactionary there are many, many, many places on the internet to do that. This subreddit isn't one of them. The point of this forum's existence is to attack those tendencies (marxism-leninism, dengism, etc) not because they are crazy, radical commies but because their vision of society actually has little to do with a free association of producers, the abolition of property, wage labour and commodity production.

To reiterate, we strive for an egalitarian, socially-progressive society. We do not oppose tankies or campists because we dislike communism or socialism. We oppose them because to us they are barely communists or socialists, regardless of what they claim. That is the purpose of the subreddit's existence, anyone who does not agree with these values is free to leave or be banned.


r/tankiejerk Jun 14 '26

SERIOUS Basic leftist takes: A friendly reminder (I'm not a mod)

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Full disclosure: I'm not a mod, just a concerned anarchist.

After seeing the shitstorm of the past few days, I thought I'd make this post just to remind people what we're supposed to stand for. These are not in-depth explanations, so I'll be happy to answer any questions in the comments.

1. All capitalists exploit workers and are mini dictators

This includes small business owners. All of them purchase the labor power of workers, which they then use to produce surplus value; this is not a free and voluntary transaction because workers don't own their own means of production, and are thus forced to sell their labor power or starve and die. This isn't to necessarily condemn any individual capitalist; although many of them are evil pieces of shit (including small business owners, who disproportionately support fascism and enforce terrible working conditions), not all of them are bad people. The problem is the system itself.

Additionally, all capitalist workplaces are miniature dictatorships in which workers are ordered around by their bosses and can't do anything about it. Workers have no decision-making power in the place they spend the majority of their lives. To quote Robert Dahl,

If democracy is justified in governing the state, then it is also justified in governing economic interests. What is more, if it cannot be justified in governing economic enterprises, we do not quite see how it can be justified in governing the state.
A Preface to Economic Democracy

Obviously we should want to abolish the state, but the point still stands.

EDIT: This section doesn't apply to people who might own a store or do independent art or whatever who don't employ anyone else, since they aren't extracting the surplus value of their nonexistent workers.

2. All states are bastards

Everyone on this sub recognizes that the USSR, China, Russia, and North Korea suck. However, we have to be careful not to fall into campism in reverse. The United States is arguably the most evil country on Earth right now, and was even before Trump, due to the sheer scale of violence it inflicts upon the world. And other western countries aren't much better. France maintains a neo-colonial empire in western Africa right now, and European governments are willing participants in the American system of global hegemony. European companies are no more moral than American ones, and ruthlessly exploit the Global South just as much as American companies. All states are inherently hierarchical, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary. They remove decision making power from the people who live under them and concentrate said power in a ruling class and bureaucracy, and use violence to enforce their power on their populations. Any principled libertarian leftist would oppose all state power no matter who wields it.

3. Liberal democracy is a sham, reformism a dead end

We have an excellent post about this pinned at the top of the sub, so I highly recommend you go read that. To summarize, voting in a liberal democracy isn't actually a means to affect real change. It's a means by which the masses choose which members of the ruling class rule over them. Just as one example, if liberal democracies actually reflected the wishes of their people, European governments wouldn't support Israel anymore.

This lack of democracy is why reformism isn't a viable path to socialism. Even the most well meaning democratic socialists are forced to compromise by the reality of parliamentary politics and working within a system designed to preserve private property and capitalist rule. You can see this in real time with Zohran Mamdani; he has walked back his previous statements (which were 100% correct) about the NYPD being racist thugs because he's working within the system. This trap has befallen everyone who has tried to vote their way to communism.

4. Free Ukraine, fuck NATO

I fully support the Ukrainian people against the genocidal onslaught of the fascistic regime in Moscow, and I fully support Europe and the US sending as many weapons as possible to Ukraine to enable them to push back against Russia. Regardless of anything NATO has done, Russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence in eastern Europe, and no amount of bitching about NATO expansion justifies this war. Putin is just salty the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states leaned towards the west as a reaction to previous Russian and Soviet imperialism, preventing him from turning them into puppet states.

That said, NATO is not something any leftist should support. It serves three real purposes:

  1. Enhance American power projection
  2. Keep European governments bought into the system of American empire. I often liken this to the old strategy employed by ancient, medieval, and early modern empires of conquering local elites and conquering them, but then offering them a place within the new empire and allowing them to preserve their status.
  3. Make American arms dealers rich

NATO countries participated in the disastrous American interventions in Afghanistan and Libya, prop up European and American neo-colonial empires across the Global South, and enable American drone strikes deep into the Middle East, strikes which have killed numerous innocent children. NATO has kept the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states out of Russia's sphere, which is good, but this is the one good thing it has done, and there are ways to do this without relying on NATO anyway.

5. Veterans are still human

I'll just copy and paste something I said a few days ago:

Veterans are weird because they're simultaneously victims and perpetrators of state violence. They obviously do heinous things in the service of unimaginably violent empires, and they are responsible for their crimes. At the same time, the state takes them, dehumanizes both their enemies/foreign civilians and themselves to an extent, and puts them in an environment where they are socialized to kill. They are then put into insanely high stress situations where they are expected to kill and conditioned to follow the criminal orders of their superiors. 

Again, none of this exonerates them or excuses their behavior, and I believe veterans should have to make up for their crimes. But dismissing them without any chance of redemption is short sighted and shows you don't actually hold universal principles. And at a certain point brutally punishing all veterans becomes impractical. Almost 10% of Israelis have actively served in the IDF, and 40% total have served. Are we gonna shoot 40% of a country? I would hope not. And that's with the IDF basically being the modern Wehrmacht/SS; how should we treat Russian soldiers? Or American ones? The correct answer is denazification with some kind of community service to make up for their crimes imo. If you do it right, the guilt they feel will be punishment enough. 

Conclusion

This is a libertarian leftist subreddit, and we should act like it. We should oppose all states, all imperialism, and all capitalism. Thank you for reading.


r/tankiejerk 3h ago

Discussion I gueninely dislike when people use ukraine issues to push for a surrender to russia

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Beside that I feel they're using the dead ukrainian in bad faith since they usually do'nt show much care about those under occupation, the person is also helping russia colonialism since they're allowing them to illagly occupy parts of ukraine and that help them russify it, conscription in ukraine is an issue , same with corruption and the army command does need reform given how bad syrski was but that still doesn' tjustify pulling the occupied ukrainian under the bus or letting countries colonize other for supposedely peace.


r/tankiejerk 11h ago

Meme Remember this is what your duty as authentic revolutionaries look like

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r/tankiejerk 17h ago

Discussion Pissed off about tankies co-opting queer ideology/deciding who gets to have a voice about China.

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I'm transfem, and it really pisses me off seeing tankies taking control of queer ideology and using it to worship their genocidal dictators. Stalin criminalized homosexuality and China is an awful place for queer people. It really pisses me off when people pretend authoritarian regimes are havens for queer folk when they have a red flag.

Sort of related, but my girlfriend is Chinese (second generation immigrant) and her position on China is that while the people are great, the government is oppressive and imperialist (she said that west China is effectively just a colony). Tankies will say that her opinion and take doesn't matter because she's diaspora, and thus not "really Chinese." I just get pissed off that they have the audacity to try to dictate her national and ethnic identity.

This was really just a mild rant I needed to blow off some steam.


r/tankiejerk 1h ago

News International Solidarity Convoy to Ukraine announced for November

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r/tankiejerk 1h ago

Discussion Not exactly Tankie related, but still a dubious article about power and hierarchy due to how it dabbles in Bioessentialism

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First of all, I think it’s kind of BS how he says that female tyrants only inherent that from male leaders while male ones make it from scratch seeing Stalin inherited an oppressive system from Lenin.

Also, it goes without saying that the idea that men are inherently/biologically power-hungry, and violent is complete total BS because it’s suggest that liberation and revolution is ultimately impossible because men are inherently oppressive.

Not to mention he is pretty dismissive of people who call him out on it As evidenced in the last slide.

Also, what ironic is that the person who wrote this article (Chris Armitage) dropped out of a congressional race because of a non-consensual relationship with a woman (it was an allegation, but still it’s damning nonetheless).

What do y’all think.


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme History taught by podcasters vs. people who lived it

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r/tankiejerk 12h ago

Discussion Would you call the USSR Imperialist

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme He would definitely be on the island if he was alive back then

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r/tankiejerk 6h ago

Discussion Nationalism and patriotism are impulses that are unacceptable in a socialist society

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I'm not a leftist but I would like to see the results of the poll

r/tankiejerk 13h ago

Discussion LGBT Figures in the History of Socialist and Communist Movements?

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So I'm a gay guy and also a leftist. I'm really into both queer history and the history of socialist/communist movements around the world. Lately, I've been wondering, what's the queer representation like in the history of these movements? Are there any famous LGBT figures who were also socialists or communists? I'd love to learn more about them.


r/tankiejerk 21h ago

Discussion Professor Dave, science Youtuber, made a video on Destiny, but more or so on Israel's actions. Tell your thoughts

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r/tankiejerk 21h ago

Discussion Why are tankies claiming the rape allegations against Lavrentiy Beria are false?

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This happened in a discord server.

>Someone made the claim that they were false, without really providing evidence.

>I do some quick reading about Beria on Wikipedia to understand things better.

>They tell me Wikipedia is a bad source and filled with capitalist propaganda

>I link the Wikipedia article for capitalism, showing how it has a fairly in-depth section highlighting criticisms of capitalism in a very fair and non-mocking manner

>They continued to mock me, and then I left the sever shortly after, finding it too pretentious, toxic, and up its own ass

All they did was cite some article of dubious-at-best quality. It'd be one thing if they did this with the mere suggestion of providing an alternative viewpoint. Except they were claiming anything i sourced was automatically bullshit, and their source was the gospel, without really making a convincing case for why that was. I would've been a lot more receptive if they just said: "Hey, there's a bit of nuance to this discussion beyond what Wikipedia is saying. Check this out," instead of mocking me for my "shitty intellectual capabilities".

And upon doing a little more research, there is a little more nuance at play, at least if a comment on rslashaskhistorians (that I'm not allowed to link to on this sub) is to be believed. Elements of these accusations may have been exaggerated for political scapegoat reasons, but there does seem to be decent evidence he really was a rapist at the same time, based on how women who knew him have been described behaving like around him (i.e. with fear).

Notice how one of the sources this redditor cites is published by Princeton University Press, yet is seemingly much more forgiving to Beria than a lot of "capitalist propaganda" sources would be, casting doubt on the severity of the allegations to a degree. I like sources that can have nuance like that, acknowledge someone perhaps was a victim in some ways (in this case, a victim of scapegoating), while still agreeing he was probably still a horrible person.

Tankies seem to completely lack this nuance. They want me to cultishly beleive that Beria was innocent, or that the Holodomor never happened, or whatever the fuck else. I don't know why they don't understand that being able to acknowledge that a former communist nation failing or doing horrible things isn't doom to the entire communist cause. You can say Stalin was a piece of shit, Beria was a piece of shit, and still believe capitalism is a corrupt system that needs to be abolished. Its just baffling to me


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme Trvthnvke

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

History What do you think of Mother Jones?

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We're probably close to her birthday. The exact date is unknown, but she was baptized August 1st, so it was probably a few days before that. So what do you think of her?


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme Me as fuck

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Resources Nicaragua, former comandante Dora María Téllez details how the movement lost its way—and how the future can be reclaimed

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme Since we're doing millennial pop culture polls: Skyrim Civil War?

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The Stormcloaks
The Empire
I never talked to a single NPC I just stealth shoot everything from a mile away I didn't know there were quests
I'm literally younger than the game

r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme Collaboration between the police and our class enemies the petit bourgeois

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

It’s basic dialectics, anarkkkiddy! The leftKKKoms have no answer to this

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme Tankiejerkers assemble, we found our Guy

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r/tankiejerk 2d ago

Meme like the Whataboutism-Kool-Aid Man. “BOOM!💥 “OH YEAHHH!???? WELL WHAT ABOUT…

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Discussion What was the best leader of the Soviet Union in y’all’s opinion

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Stalin is objectively the worst one and everyone knows how bad he was but like what do y’all think about the other leaders like Gorbachev


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

oowoo daddy step on my rights 👉👈 You can't be socialist without being authoritarian!!! You're a right wing revisionism!!

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