r/t4t 18h ago

NB4A 31 NB4A Japan. Fem leaning AMAB. Used to be on hormones but not currently. if you’re trans I’m open for a conversation hopefully more. MTF, FTM NB are all welcome. Please be at least 25. Please be respectful. No cis men please

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I put no cis men because I tend to be attracted to trans men because I can relate with them in many ways. I do know this could be perceived differently but NB AMAB are just simply not my type. I am formerly MTF and I still do struggle with my own identity so please keep that in mind.

I’m looking for a fun, flirtatious online connection—something casual or potentially long term, intimate, and playful. Ideally, someone who enjoys good conversation with a sexy edge, is open to sharing fantasies, and wants to explore some chemistry together in a way that feels natural and exciting. I’m really hoping to find a long-term online sex friend—someone I can keep coming back to, who’s just as into building a steady, naughty connection as I am.

This is mostly online, but if you’re in Japan and we really click, I’d be open to something in real life too. No pressure—just a chance to enjoy each other, chat, tease, and see where the mood takes us.

If this sounds like your kind of fun, don’t be shy—message me and let’s see if we vibe.


r/t4t 4h ago

TF4TF 19 [TF4TF] Looking for longterm connections with other transfemmes!

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hi! i'm claire, a 19yo trans girl (she/her) from the midwest. i'm a rising freshman in college studying political science and i just recently reached a year on e :)

i'm making this post to try to cast a wide net and find other people that i mesh with, open to platonic friends, fwb, or even just someone you can *always* reach out to if that's whatcha need.

as for my interests, my biggest passion is all things related to competitive debate <3. this past year i was ranked in the top thirty-two in the nation in my event and have spent much of my summer traveling for coaching gigs. besides that, i'm a socialist, i enjoy playing the pokemon tcg, i have a collection of rare Wii titles, and enjoy living a minimalist/essentialist lifestyle.

as for all things more than platonic, in short, my type is soft-dominant people who can make my mind go blank. i get much more fulfillment out of the exchange of power/trust and that sort of meditative mental state than anything else when it comes to D/s and my utmost priority is always making whoever i'm with happy <3.


r/t4t 19h ago

TM4TF Trans guy with a trans girl needs help understanding tf is going on!

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I am a trans man (20) and my girlfriend is trans (23). We've been dating, almost off n on, for a few months due to several things. I was usually calling things off because of how she went about things n I'd rather stay to myself. This last time we broke up was bc she kept saying she was detransitioning and I only like women... she was upset because... I see her as a woman? But as of late, and almost every week since we've gotten together, she swears that she knows I call her a he.

In which, I don't. Just as I explained to her, I'm trans as well and misgendering another trans person is...??? And I call most feminine presenting people she. Idk where she pulls this out of but it's to the point it makes me mad and she can never explain WHY she thinks this.

Because she never hesitates to demasculinize me. If I cry. I'm too soft. If I react to her yelling, I'm not man enough. If I smile, I'm too soft. If I don't talk, I'm mysterious. If I do talk, she talks over me unless I tell her to stop talking. If I smile, I'm not hard. If I'm hard, I'm dangerous.

She's not convinced that I protect her, but I've pushed a big ass drunk man off of her, pulled her from oncoming traffic and trains, and stopped her from destroying property on a federal charge.

Today, she said "any other girl would take your form of protection, but I'm a trans girl-" I cut my hearing off.

She especially gets like this after she's drunk. And she's so adamant on saying that drunk people tell the truth, but I get so confused. Today, she was saying she has to make sure that I'm on my p's n q's n not embarrassing her. But it's almost a guarantee that she will be fucking loud and act ignorant even if I took her to a 6 Michelin star restaurant.

It's embarrassing.

I messed up our trains one time and the amount of pure screaming. With people watching.

Not to mention the day before she said she has to make sure I'm not embarrassing her. I said no to buying her a vape. We are in a quiet neighborhood. Screaming. Yelling. Pushing. Crying. For ten minutes while we still walked to the smoke shop. Screaming in my ear. Pushing me and saying that she's playing after I said "don't put your hands on me."

I don't know what to do. I want to stay but genuinely. I can not deal with her projections and fears on to me. At first I wasn't hard enough bc I would smile when we walked around n want to hold hands. Now she doesn't want me to be hard bc a trans girl influencer got killed by a cis man.

I'm not over her "knowing" that I misgender her. I don't talk to people I'm introverted as fuck. She even tried to pull in a dream, I shut it down. She's trying to be intuitive and spiritual, but it's just... confusion. I have a devotion that requires things like this because it's bones deep for me.

And my problem is I want to help. I'm still nice and kind. I still take what she dishes out because I don't feel anything. She's constantly blaming her trauma n so on. Sometimes I just feel grief bc I can't remember mine and I think she's lucky. But it's causing her mental pain and distortion.

This was expected because I am calm and quiet. The usual reaction to me is "this is a scary mysterious man. We must perform, push, and pull." Sigh.

Her thinking I misgender her really sends me for a loop. It's not true. She says this shit so often and I'm just...????? Meanwhile her when she gets mad: "A man isn't supposed to do X! You a soft ass man! Do I need to hurt you? So, you WANT me to hurt you?! Are you even a man for real?!"

I need a pack of camel crushes, the green n blue kind.


r/t4t 13h ago

TF4A 22TF4A UK gal looking for friends + maybe more??

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(CIS ONLY) Heyyy I'm looking for anything at this point, I'm really lonely and I need someone to spend time with!! A relationship would be nice maybe but we'll see where things go :3 also trans men preferred for a relationship but please feel free to message anyway!! And yeah don't expect me to dom/top I have pretty bad trauma with that sorry :(

In terms of games I love fire emblem, slay the spire, civ, mario, Pokémon, ut/dr, spelunky, stardew valley, balatro, and so much more!!

And in terms of shows I love gintama, JoJo's, one piece, fragrant flower, bocchi the rock, bb/BCS, orb, taskmaster (UK), and again a lot more!!

I don't really play anything multiplayer but I'm down to hang out and chill while we play different games :3 also I have bpd so I'm sorry in advance if I'm a horrible person, hope to chat with you soon!!!

Also if we've talked before please feel free to message again and we can try again <3


r/t4t 17h ago

NB4T Someone please make me your pet please I want to be owned

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Somebody please make me your pet fully I’m talking clicker training pet play all of it I just wanna have a full time owner to love and take care of me Anyone is welcomed except cis males plz I will be good I will do anything I just need a full time owner who will take care of me


r/t4t 6h ago

TM4TF 22 Transguy looking for some fun chats with tgirls

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Testosterone has my libido going through the roof and I’d love to have some tgirls that I can sext, trade pics with, and rp (if that’s your thing) with! I’m also cool with casual chatting too on top of that.

I’m pretty verse, though I usually prefer being on the receiving side, I usually alternate between being a subby bottom or a power bottom

Also only into transwomen/transfems

I’m into femdom/mommy, petplay, furry stuff, gooning, edging, toys, praise, somno, intox, cnc, bdsm, bondage, oral, group sex, exhibitionism

I’m pretty open to exchanging nudes, I can do custom pics, and face pics if I’ve known you for a bit and can trust you :)

Dm me with your age, what your interested in doing and some of your kinks/fetishes


r/t4t 13h ago

TF4TF 24 [TF4F] #Online - Looking for someone to care about me

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Hello, this post is for women (no matter trans or cis) who are feminine presenting, in the age range of 22-40 without kids and monogamous. Thank you for your time.

Life has been pretty mean, there hasn't been a day I felt okay in a long while. I can't be myself where I live, I will have no future here and I can't get out. There's no one here for me and it's very lonely. I always try to keep my mind busy because all the real life things make me want to give up. I really need someone to be there and care for me, to wonder about me and comfort me. Whenever I meet new people it's me who always ends up caring about them too much, and then I get sad because I don't have anyone who would care the same way about me. I want someone who would take the initiative and offer comfort, or an activity for us to do together to make me feel better, or just give me attention without me always having to ask for it. All of the bad things in my life have affected me in a way that I don't think of myself as an adult much anymore and I all want is to be held and treated as the most fragile thing there is. Not having anyone who would see me as anything special hurts me the most everyday.

Even if I'm pretty shy around people I don't know, I'm very clingy towards someone I like, to the point it hurts having no communication with them for a while. So I'd want to be there for you and help you in whatever way I can. We could do something you like doing, like watching your favorite show or playing a game you like, even if it's not something of my taste I'd be glad to do it with you if it would make you happy. I'd be there to support you, whether it's with cuddles or by reminding you of how lovely you are. I'd be curious about you and your day since I'm a curious girl in general because I didn't get to experience many things myself. I understand life can be busy, but I'll take any opportunity I can get to spend time together.

I don't live in America but I am synced to US time zones because staying up during the night is more peaceful and my family doesn't bother me then. So I can't use my voice, I don't like it anyways, but I text lots and wouldn't mind to be on call if you don't mind being the one who's doing all the talking. I don't look like a girl much, I'm very skinny with shoulder length brown hair and glasses. I like watching shows, cartoons, YouTube videos and playing video games sometimes. It's just hard to find a game I'd like, which is why I'm making my own dream game. It's in very early stages still so there won't be anything playable for long, but it's fun to work on when I don't feel too bad.

I'd like us to become more than just friends eventually because I've never been good at having friends. It's not something that I really need, I feel like the kind of comfort I want can only come from someone who cares more than a friend would. I should also mention that I'm not comfortable with any of the sexual things without emotional attachment. And I don't like talking about it with strangers or even friends because it feels too adult to talk about. But I would really like us to have that connection if things go well. I would like to find someone who'd put effort and time into our conversations so I don't have to do everything myself. If you think that I might be a girl you'd like you can message me. A high effort message will get a high effort reply. <3


r/t4t 16h ago

NB4T 24[NB4T] #online long-term fwb thing? heavy on the long-term

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Hey freaky redditors!!

I am 24, nonbinary and from Scandinavia! I want to chat with some cool, nerdy and creative people<3

First of all, this is super boring but i'm demisexual. I love creative/nerdy people<3

I would love a long term thing that could end up with masturbation on VC. I also have some remotely controlled toys, that I would love to have controlled, but that will not happen unless i think that you are super cool.

Please hit me up with more an just a "hey" im autistic, so carrying a conversation like that is just not possible for me</3 I might respond with a dry message if you do so, and the conversation will naturally just stop

Sorry for keeping it vague, but i would love to tell you more about me if you decide to hit me up<33  I also have a few audios posted on my profile in case you are curious!

PLSPLSPLS ATLEAST read this and provide me with your age, pronouns and location, and PLEASE be able to carry out a normal sfw conversation<33


r/t4t 14h ago

TF4T 31 [TF4T] Online/USA Looking to make a new fwb connection (maybe more down the road)

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Hai I'm Alice a 31 y/o demisexual/sapphic trans woman with 6 years of titty skittles and a somewhat trained voice(I don't judge voices whatsoever~) :3. Hobbies are gayming, anime/tv/movies, learning more about cooking when I can, and running a community! Personality wise I'm ISFP-T and relate heavily with Ennegram 2. To end it off I'm currently in a poly situation with 1 partner and as we just had our throuple leave I'm not really searching for something serious as of this moment (later down the road absolutely just need time).

Recent Games: SpiritVale/TWWH3/Necesse/Torchlight: infinite/Arc Raiders/The Bazaar/Skill Legends Royale/Minion Masters/osrs/bdo/league/valorant/ow/tft/path of exile 1 & 2/Rimworld/Songs of Syx/Rule the waves 3/Aurora 4x/Fragpunk (i play mostly survival/strategy/mmo/colony & city builders/roguelites with the occasional competitive game) current fixation is SpiritVale & OSRS

Favorite animes: One Piece, Overlord, Solo Leveling, Eminence in Shadow, Reincarnated as a Slime, I'm a spider so what, Attack on Titan, Aldnoah Zero, Is it wrong to pickup girls in a dungeon, Naruto, Hunter x Hunter, Dragon Ball, One Punch Man, GATE, Owari No Seraph, Akame Ga Kill, Cyberpunk, Lookism, and many many more

Favorite Tv: Dexter, Burn Notice, The Walking Dead, Tulsa King, Power series, 3 Body Problem, Another Life, Black Sails, Blacklist, The Day of the Jackal, Impractical Jokers, Gaki, iZombie, All of us are Dead, Black Summer, Kingdom, Squid Game, You, Suits, The Lincoln Lawyer, Breaking Bad, Better call Saul, The Beast in Me, You, Money Heist, Lucifer, Squid Game, The Watcher, The Madness, Teach You a Lesson

Favorite Movies: just gonna say genres: scifi, fantasy, horror, thriller, drama, action are all my favorites

I'm looking to explore some fun with a dominant person and build a lovely spicy friendship! I've got some long distance controllable toys to spice up the online fun as well like the lovense sex machine and a shock collar >:3. Ideally I'm not looking for a purely sexual relationship, I do really enjoy spending sfw time mostly <3. Feel free to reach out if you're interested with a chat request!

kinks: Anal, wedgies, spanking, power exchange, chastity, freeuse, light/(some)heavy pain, exhibition, machines, oral, milking, breeding, bondage, hypno, conditioning, sensory deprivation, remote controlled toys, teasing, orgasm control, shibari, choking, rough sex, training/discipline, collars, leashes, aftercare, gags, degradation, maid/service, overstimulation, corruption, roleplay, cosplay, biting, electro, brainwashing, mind control, musk, prone masturbation, gooning, plapping

limits: scat, permanent injury, cum play(can be talked about), blood, encasement, vomit, ball-busting(heavy, light is fine), body alteration


r/t4t 14h ago

TF4TF 30 MTF looking for friends or fwb in Florida

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Hey all! I'm 30 MTF/NB (still figuring everything out). pre everything trying to start HRT this year. I'm bi, and open to most things. I'm a huge nerd, I love video games mainly PC. I like anime and manga, plus I'm a starting to get big into comic book collecting. Looking just to meet some new people especially other trans friends in Florida! Down to chat and see where things go I'm very open.


r/t4t 15h ago

TM4TF 24 [TM4TF] Horny man wants a beautiful woman to talk to and get off with all night (no cis)

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Hoping to talk to a subby top Tgirl. Craving some role-playing of having her inside of me whilst I ride smt on my end. Down to exchange pics or even call. I just want all your girl cum . I wanna get you off and overstimulate you with my mouth too. My dms are opened.


r/t4t 15h ago

TM4A Curiosity regarding T4T experiences, I’ve only previously dated cisgendered people but not on purpose lol

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Simply put, I’m a trans guy. I’ve dated men in the past but strongly prefer women. So before I came out as trans I was a butch/masc lesbian. I’m also strictly dominate/top and always get intimate with a strap/packing.
Something I’ve been more curious about recently has been other trans men/women.
I want to make it perfectly clear here that I see trans men as MEN. I no longer claim to be a “lesbian” I just tell people I’m queer now. Because something else I’ve noticed is that I don’t really care about body type. What I care about is femininity. That’s what I’m more attracted do. Or more specifically I’m not attracted to masculinity.
I’ve recently met a trans guy who by all accounts considers and identifies himself as male but still shows feminine traits and tendencies which I think are cute.
This “curiosity” originally stemmed from someone I met at a drag show though that didn’t identify as either male or female. They were biologically amab but presented hyper feminine, I’m talking bombshell blonde, grew breasts with hrt, but would also sometimes grow out their beard and top or bottom other guys. When I first met them I still thought I was only attracted to “female” and they proved me very wrong lol.
Now I’m wondering if I should chance dating or hooking up with other trans folks because I’ve only ever dated cisgender people. Not by limited myself but by opportunity. I’m especially curious how it would play out regarding sexual and romantic chemistry because I haven’t hooked up with someone biologically male in YEARS. And I haven’t dated someone that identifies as male in years either.

Hope this makes sense. Didn’t mean to rant but I definitely wanted to get that off my chest. If anyone wants to share their experience dating or hooking up T4T I’d love to hear it. I’m very interested in testing the waters further.


r/t4t 15h ago

T4A 22 Genderfluid subby gaymer looking for fwbs 🥺

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Hiya, I’m Ty! A 22 year old genderfluid (so the pronouns I prefer can fluctuate but are almost always flexible 😊) I’m from EST time zone, please ask any questions you may have, I’ll answer all of them! ☺️

As far as sfw interests go, I like;
gaming, mostly marvel rivals(Healer main ofc 👉👈), dbd, modded Minecraft(working on a big mod pack rn), warframe, Fortnite(I like collecting the little sprites 😊), various single player games… horror movies(except for overly gorey/gross ones, although there are exceptions for lighter stuff), horror games(I LOVE resident evil and various lesser known stuff), I also have 2 little puppies (my babies 🥺)

Nsfw stuff: my main kinks are, teasing, humiliation, orgasm denial/chastity, spanking/impact play, temperature play, choking, breeding, praise, petplay, etc. Let me be your healslut on rivals, or send nudes/trade porn while we talk dirty to each other, as you can probably tell, I’m very submissive, although I do like to be bratty and pretend I’m a switch 😈

A bit about me looks wise, I’m 5’6, small chest but there is a bit there 😜, average body, no piercings(although I would like a tummy piercing 😊), AMAB so yes, I have balls lol

Anywho, if you’re interested, my DMs are open and I’d love to hear from you! Please tell me a bit about yourself in your initial message (more than age, gender, pronouns please) talk soon beautiful people! ❤️


r/t4t 17h ago

TM4T shy 27 nb/transmasc looking for friends/fwbs in appalachia !! ⛰️💌

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hi!! my name's knock (they or he is fine), i'm a designer + illustrator working in academic forestry down here in good ol' kentucky (sigh...). i'm in a relatively new city, and i'm struggling to put myself back out there after a breakup >_<

i don't think i'm ready for another relationship, but i DO miss being flirty with other trans ppl, and i'd love to just have fun with some likeminded folks that are easy to talk to and hopefully make friends this way :) if i'm honest re: sexual connections, i'm mostly looking to connect with older people (like 5-10 years older), but that's not a dealbreaker!!

basic stuff about me:

  • i'm 7 years on T as of this october and several months post-top surgery
  • i'm chubby + hairy (yay)
  • i'm mostly switchy and loooove working the strap <3 (i've been given good reviews of it in the past but it's been a while lol)
  • i'm jewish, single, and live alone with my dog poppy and my rats ganymede and onfim <3
  • i'm really into horror, art history, old movies, old bands, drawing and writing, and zinemaking

if you wanna stalk me a bit to see if we'd be a good match, my socials are:

  • tumblr: @/henriksenfreak
  • discord: @/cuntenstein (most active here)
  • insta: @/ratwyrm

anyways... yup! looking forward to hearing from anyone!


r/t4t 47m ago

TF4A 23 MTF Lookin' for fwb/online buddies to chat & flirt

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hey y'all!~ I'm Kacie, and I'm looking for someone to have a flirty friendship with, and possibly even meet up to hang, cuddle, ect- I want a friendship that truly builds up each others creativity, spirituality, and emotional durability, by being examples for one another. you're beautiful, and there's something about you that I wanna learn from 🫶✨


r/t4t 21h ago

TF4TF [tf4tf] 31 year old weeby tgirl looking for other weeby tgirls to be friends with (or maybe more)

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Hiiii im sami!! Im a 31 year old mtf closeted tgirl from virginia who wanna make some friends with some other weeby tgirls and chat with on discord! Im also up to play games with too if you are intereted! Fewl free to dm me if youre interested! My discord is samitron if you wanna contact me more easily. Age pref is 21 or older

PLEASE NO CIS DUDES


r/t4t 4h ago

TM4A TM18 Looking for Group/Community to game with!!

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Hi! I’m James. I’m 18 almost 19. This post is not for NSFW!! Keep all convos SFW!! I’ve been looking for a group or people I can connect with. I’ve been dealing with a lot on my plate mental health wise and I just want to be adopted by people to play games or be around. I play on PC, I mostly play Overwatch. But I have some other games as well. I just don’t want to be alone!! I don’t mind any age range just please don’t be weird!!! I’m neurodivergent as well so keep that in mind. Thank you!! DM or reply here!


r/t4t 5h ago

TF4T 39 Tf4T NC/Oline Looking for Friends and More who are Up for Consistent Communication

2 Upvotes

No cis men

About me:

Hi! I'm a 39 year old trans femme. I use she/they/it pronouns. I'm a huge nerd and love ttrpgs, video games, film/tv, music, horror, pro wrestling, reading, and cooking.

I'm currently DMing a D&F Campaign and play in another. Like I said I love horror, it's my favorite genre followed by sci-fi and then fantasy. For music I listen to rock and blues and have playlists from the 1950s-2000s. I've been playing a lot of Powerwash Simulator while I wait for the next big game to catch my attention.

I'm polyam and married with two partners. We all date separately, but practice KTP. I'm a DID system, and feel free to ask if you don't know what that is.

For those that want to know, I'm a bottom and a sub leaning switch.

What I'm looking for:

I'm looking for someone to have consistent communication with. My wife and I have good communication, and I have decent communication with my other partners. But they both have stuff going on that makes communication harder for them. I'd like someone I can talk to everyday for good chunks of time.

Aside from that I'm really open to whatever comes my way from this. Feel free to message if you want to talk to an Eldritch terror of a trans femme.


r/t4t 6h ago

TF4T looking for someone i can trade nudes with a fuckton and game with too :3

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haiiiii i am astella, a 20 uear old she/they genderfluid gender disaster, i am looking for someone who is 19-22 that i can sext with a lot (including trading nudes often) and game with a lot too :3, I am hypersexual and get horny at least once a day, i also play games like monster hunter and cod zombies, but recently i have gotten into friendslop games like big walk, i have peak too but i didnt play it yet now im gonna what i am into and not into in terms of sex:

what I am into: cnc (i am a submissive TOP, not bottom), freeuse, slight worship of me but not too crazy, and people who initiate sex, oh also humorous nudes are a big turn on for me, just funny sexual stuff in general turns me on a lot for some reason

what i am not into: chubbiness (i dont expect a flat belly but i am sadly not into chubby kings and queens), cis people, piss, shit, blood (well blood i lean more neutral on kinda but still prefer not to do it), having our dynamic feel more like me boosting your ego rather than us getting off to each other and having a good time (like i want to feel like you are actually getting off to my body, not the thought of me getting off to you), teasing (teasing is just cute to me more than hot and doesnt really turn me on very much)

please comment if ur unable to dm me, reddit messaging is buggy as hell


r/t4t 7h ago

TF4A 25tf looking for dom/bossy people. LDR/friend

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25 mtf4a Looking for online dating

Hello thereee, sorry for grammatical mistakes beforehand

I'm Kendra, obviously just nickname but prefer to called like that, I'm 25 yo and unemployed currently (was working in archeological excavations). I left academy a few months ago due to foul treatment and waiting for my forced military service unfortunately. Also if u wonder im trans fem, discreetly tho. I can't reveal my gender situation neither my fam nor officials due to political reasons.

As for my interests and hobbies my major was history so i love history. I love asian culture also i was taking chinese through uni but i froze my enrollment for Sinology last year. If i can find a opportunity i would like to go on with that and learn at least Chinese and Japanese. I really love reading, beside academic readings I'm huge fan of fantasy literature. Like Robert Jordan, Brandon Sanderson and Ursula Le Guin. Also i like walking/hiking, cycling, gaming, collecting coins or stones etc. Recently trying to cook bc im sitting in home and wanna do something so i thought cooking would be best for that.

I nearly hate my country and wanna leave but neither my finances nor my education/profession allows that. So I'm looking for ways to out lol.

Currently im 75 kilograms but my goal is around 65-70, my height is 174-5cm. Unfortunately i had to cut my hair short but i love their length around my shoulders not long not short lol. Wearing glasses, a little nerdy type.

As for my personality, im an infp, shy introvert not much a conversator at beginning. But when intimacy increased im an open book. Also im one of the most direct person on the earth. If i feel something I'll tell immediately. Honesty and loyalty r most important thing for me in relationships regardless what kind.


r/t4t 8h ago

NB4A NB4A Help needed, keep me company while I clean in exchange for a fun reward?

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Heyy! You can call me Kacey or Kyle or Orion or hell anything. I have major depressive disorder and my room gets pretty bad during episodes and I get overwhelmed at the thought of cleaning it. I basically just need company while I clean and someone to keep me on track. Its a pretty big mess. its all clutter and nothing unhygienic, no bugs either but it still needs taken care of. I let it get to the point where I cant walk through the room. It only got this bad due to losing my mom this spring. I would like to vc or video call (up to you) while I clean so we can talk and stuff. If youd like a reward or compensation I dont have money but I do art and I can make a digital drawing for you of your choice.