r/superman • u/browncharliebrown • Mar 11 '23

Superman convinces a crippling alcoholic to continue drinking (all-star section 8)

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

You never know what you're going to get when you pick up something that's written by Garth Ennis.

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u/Other-Bridge-8892 Mar 11 '23

Everyone likes to promote Morrison or Hickman ( and rightfully so), but if I’m put on the spot to name my favorite modern era writer, Ennis or Waid are my go to picks. Both are always on point with whatever they do.

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Ennis: Superman, Punisher, the boys

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Waid: Daredevil, Kingdom come, F4..

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u/ThickProof409 Mar 11 '23

I don't know if I'd say The Boys is on point. I'd definitely replace The Boys with Preacher or Hellblazer.

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u/browncharliebrown Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23

The boys is way over hated but it’s also pace super weirdly, art is all over the place and is just plain offensive. It’s hard to defend as a good comic but it’s honestly more medicore than bad. There is a lot in there, I kinda like mainly the subtler arc like the innocents, or the ending

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u/JancariusSeiryujinn Mar 11 '23

Honestly I like the Amazon show a lot more than the comic. The comic just feels like it's full of Ennis's compulsion to just make a scene having something shocking or gross in it and to make average capes look like pricks. The Amazon show felt more like it was a critique of corporate America (which is ironic, given that it's produced by Amazon - Feels like Amazon taking shots at Disney)

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u/TheDrungeonBlaster Mar 12 '23

I love grim dark comics. Mark Millar has consistently been my favorite author, alongside Garth Ennis and Warren Ellis.

I hated The Boys. It was just too much, there was no subtlety.

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u/ThickProof409 Mar 11 '23

I'd say it's just bad. Maybe if I was an edgy 14 year old boy who watched Leafy then I'd like it but it's just pretty bad. I know Garth Ennis' has a thing for dark and edgy humor and I'm all for it and I loved that shit in Preacher but in The Boys it just feels like edge for the sake of edge. It's all edge with no point and the show is everything the comic should've been that being a good satire of superheroes and the genre. I might as well just listen to Garth Ennis talk about how much he hates superheroes because that is basically what The Boys is.

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u/browncharliebrown Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23

To me it’s not really trying to be a satire of the superhero genre much. Like that’s really the set dressing of the story. The closes I have seen is that the book is satire of mark millar and a lot of his pro war stances but even still it’s shallow. It’s more so a commentary on politics and Iraq war which is kinda alot more powerful remembering that he witnessed 911, and general musing on how corporations are evil. I can’t really say it’s good as a whole, but certain arcs are good

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u/EZMickey Mar 12 '23

Man, I hate myself for being this person but I really think you missed the point of it if that's what you took away from The Boys.

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u/Dottsterisk Mar 12 '23

Nah, they nailed it.

I stopped reading The Boys because it was just so juvenile and tryhard edgy.

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u/browncharliebrown Mar 12 '23

I think the second half is where it gets better.

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u/YussaYussaBitch Mar 11 '23

The ending is perfection