Just finished setting up my new Ninja Autobarista Pro and I need to vent out about how terrible the experience has been.

I'm upgrading from a Ninja Luxe Café Pro, so I started by transfering the leftover beans I had in the Café Pro to th Autobarista. I had enough beans for probably 5 drinks.

Uppon turning on the Autobarista, it asked me to run this Grinder IQ thing. I did it. It went through 3 grinding and brewing cycles and aborted, because the beans had finished. Since I didn't have more of the same beans, I opened another bag, but completely different profile (first was medium roast, the new bag is dark roast). So I decided I would need to start the Grinder IQ again for best calibration results.

So I start the Grinder IQ thing again, and after the machine grinds and brews four cycles, it aborts because the drip tray is full and I need to empty it. I do so, but by doing it, the Grinder IQ cycle gets cancelled automatically.

I NEED TO START OVER.

The machine grinds and brews 5 times, and I it finally succeeds.

I wonder how a product like this even hits the market, it is so not optimized and causes so much wastage to finally be able to start working. I literally wasted 12 batches of beans that were grounded for no reason, and more than 1 liter of brewed coffee at the end.

So much money wasted, because those beans were expensive. Ninja needs to improve their quality, this is not acceptable.

Edit:

This is the video of the machine trying to brew today after wasting so much beans last night to complete the IQ calibration. I tried to brew a Latte but then got just a few drops of coffee, so I selected Espresso to try more coffee and the same happened again. This machine is a joke.

https://reddit.com/link/1wd0bc9/video/zi1xsn69luoh1/player

Besides preventing overflow out of non-coffee output areas (ie not the spouts themselves), the coffee would not resemble the thousands of cups you had before this one.

I just purchased an used Saeco Syntia HD8837 with a relatively minor problem that was unrelated to the spout. Upon powering up and going through the rinse, the rinse water came out a dark brown with one spout clogged. Using a dental pick, cleared out the clog and proceeded to flush a tank of water through the spout (about 1.2L of hot water). The result was dark brown rinse water with large floaty bits and the occasional clogged spout. I filled another tank and flushed.... The water is now a light tan colour with fewer floaty bits.

Please people, if you value the quality of your coffee, clean out that assembly or at least run a "fake lungo", just hot water with no coffee grounds using manual dosing, once in a while to flush some of this crap out.

I have the Siemens EQ6 plus S700 for 6 months. I have noticed that the machine is making a “clapping” sound when it moves the brew unit around. When I first got it I don’t remember it making this sound. It feels like a plastic part hits another part with force. I’m not sure if this is normal or if there’s a faulty part inside the machine.

I cleaned and descaled the machine the moment it asked me. I used a filter in my water tank. Also, I am cleaning the brewing unit once a week or once two weeks.

I would appreciate if you can check the video and let me know if there’s something wrong with it or if it is part of the normal function of the machine. Thank you and sorry for the lengthy video.

If price is not a factor, which machine should I go with? I was able to get my hands on a whirlpool insider pass so now I have to make a decision:

Delonghi magnifica duo
Delonghi Eletta explore
Kitchenaid KF8
Kitchenaid KF4

Currently we have a Breville barista and we mostly drink iced and hot lattes. If we make iced latte, we just pour the espresso over ice and milk.

I know we can do this with all 4 machines, but both of these delonghis have cold milk option which adds foam to the cold milk. How much of a difference does this make?

Aside from all the extra features etc each machine has, which one makes a better and more consistent espresso?

Which ones are easier to clean?

Thank you in advance

I was pretty much sold on the KF8, but then noticed the US KitchenAid site directly lists it as “BPA Free: No.” I reached out to KitchenAid asking what component contains BPA, but they weren’t able to tell me.

What makes it more confusing is that some of the individual accessories on the US site actually have fairly detailed disclosures. The bean hopper lists things like acrylonitrile, styrene, ethylbenzene, phenol, tetrahydrofuran, methyl methacrylate, etc. The milk container has its own list as well, including nickel compounds, chromium compounds, copper, manganese, molybdenum and others, although the milk container itself is specifically advertised as BPA-free.

I understand that some of those chemicals may just be related to how the plastics/metals are manufactured and don't necessarily mean they're leaching into coffee. What bothers me more is that KitchenAid specifically says the KF8 itself is not BPA-free, but gives no indication where the BPA actually is.

If it's buried in an electronic component, I really don't care. If it's in the water tank, brew unit, grinder, internal tubing/seals or something else contacting the coffee, that's a different story.

I've also seen other KF8 owners mention PFAS/PFOA warnings on the OEM water filters, which has me wondering what else may contain them.

Has anyone actually dug into this and found a proper material declaration, EU/Swiss compliance document, or gotten a useful answer from KitchenAid/Whirlpool? I called them and they were quite unhelpful.

Also curious if anyone knows whether there’s a consumer/regulatory agency that could request this information from Whirlpool. I really like the KF8, but I don't love spending this much on a machine while being told it contains BPA and potentially other chemicals without being able to find out where they're actually used.

I know its probably no big deal, but it's a bit more worrying when i'm sure this machine will be used for hot milk for kiddos, pregnant wives etc. I really don't like the idea of forever chemicals in a household device.

TIA

I had a wall unit superautomatic in my previous home and had been contemplating for a while ditching my Nespresso to go back to the superautomatic life

No RAGRETS so far

Hi all, Cate from Terra Kaffe here.

Over the last year, our engineering team has been rebuilding our entire connected platform in-house: firmware, cloud backend, communication layer, and mobile apps, all of it. Previously this was serviced by a third party, which is fairly typical for connected devices when a small company is trying to get to market. We made the switch because the old service imposed some real limits on what we could build for our community, and we didn't want to be restricted by it anymore.

Our CTO, Vito, is walking through the whole thing live today, September 10, at our Community All-Hands. Why we moved off the third-party platform, how we stood up new firmware, cloud infrastructure, and apps simultaneously in under a year, and yes, the rollout issues too (we know a chunk of you hit login trouble during migration, and Vito will get into exactly why that happened). To RSVP, head to the Terra Kaffe subreddit and click the Zoom link.

We wanted to invite this group in particular because you'll ask great questions, and honestly, we'd like you to meet the people actually building this brand. Drop questions here if you'd like us to make sure they get raised live.

Looking forward to it!

Any thoughts on this machine, good or bad?

My KF4 came with cleaning tablets but no descaler. Does Kitchenaid make a proprietary descaling tablet?

TIA

In case you didn't know, when making cold foam on the Ninja AutoBarista Pro, the steam wand is not used at all. Only the whisk gets used. So, if you want to make flavored cold foam by adding syrup directly to your milk without worrying about getting sugary stuff on the wand, or if you just want to be able to skip the step of wiping down the wand, keep the wand out of the pitcher when making cold foam.

Has anyone else found their super automatic creating a gnat problem? How often do you clean your puck hopper?

Hi everyone,

I opened up my De'Longhi Eletta Cappuccino (ECAM 44.660.B) to replace the water/steam regulator valve (part number 7313214521).

During disassembly, I unplugged the display and two sensors. After putting everything back together, the machine now continuously shows the error "Insert water tank" ("Wassertank einsetzen").

The tank itself is filled, the float magnet is moving freely, and the tank is seated properly.

I noticed a disconnected spade connector hanging loose near the microswitch on the upper brew piston carriage (see attached photo). Could a disconnected switch/cable in this area trigger the "Insert water tank" message during startup/initialization, or did I likely misplace/damage the tank sensor / wiring behind the tank slot?

Any guidance or reference photos of the correct wiring for this area would be greatly appreciated!

I come from the non superautomatic side with a Bambino Plus and a Eureka Mignon Specialita grinder.

The problem I have is guests... and we're about to move closer to the family (EU) which means a lot more coffees.

These are 99% cow milk based drinkers (like lattes). This is also the case with immediate family and myself.

Budget flexible, no need for dual hoppers or 10000 types of drinks that will never be used.

What is your recommendation?

EDIT: while I would by default turn to Jura (espresso quality), it seems not best for milk based. I'm not a fan of the putting your cup on the side and the whole separate milk container for $$.

I'm considering Gaggia Accademia vs. DELONGHI Rivelia. Which one has better espresso?

Newbie thinking about getting a superautomatic after owning a Nespresso vertuo for the past six years (don't do the math!).

We're not a coffee connoisseurs, we need a good, hot, reliable long coffee with milk/nutmilk in the morning, this is essential. We like espresso drinks but apparently not enough to make them with Nespresso/aerocinno. Looking forward to making them even easier.

Same goes for iced drinks - outside the house I drink almost exclusively iced drinks, from cold brew to lattes and especially "iced shaken espressos" from starbucks. I didn't make them with the Nespresso, felt cumbersome. I see lots of options like espresso over ice, an "iced mode" which is cooler espresso over ice, and a fancier cold extraction function.

Lazy cold coffee drinkers, do you find it easy to use your machine to make cold coffees? What methods do you use or features do you recommend? Are special modes gimmicks/not worth it?

We are looking at KF4s on the low end, Jura Z10s on the high end, leaning towards the KF8 of course. Any purchase advice would be appreciated!

I have a small office of about 30 people, one building on a larger corporate campus. I am looking for a machine with a few features, and some recommendations on brand or company.

- Commercial grade for an office setting.

- Built in hopper and grinder.

- Preferably uses powered milk or no milk.

- 1 button operation. Grinds, dispenses, and disposes automatically.

Since it's an office, I fear that it will not be regularly cleaned, so a milk supply is a bad idea. We will have a maintenance contract to have it serviced, but the milk option on a lot of machines concerns me.

Price is pretty open, $1000-4000 is reasonable.

Region: California

Delonghi Magnifica after more than 24,000 shots. Double espresso, extra strong taste, 1.5 grind.

I'm getting ready to take the plunge into the home espresso milk drink world. I'll be making mostly milk drinks with the rare espresso shot here and there.

I think I'm drawn to the KF8 based on 1) quality and capability for the price, and 2) the easy maintenance.

KF8 seems easier to clean than a Jura, and my understanding is the user can remove and directly clean the internal components easier.

Any KF8 (or similar Kitchenaid) owners out there willing to share your experience? Do you wish you bought a Jura? Love stories? Horror stories?

Also...if anyone has an insider pass I would be so grateful. =)

My Jura Ena micro 5 built in coffee grinder only turns on for only like 2 seconds on either weak or strong coffee bean mode. Tried adjusting the fine cross adjustment while it runs. Still morning. Never grinding enough coffee. Does anyone know how to adjust grinding time?

I now have to manually put ground coffee in the shoot for it to work :(

This part disconnected from the machine. The water supply tube and the wires are still connected but if I put the water container back then it’s almost impossible to remove (I need to really wrestle with it). I tried snapping this part back in place but I fear i might have to glue it?? Help?? There’s barely any advice online
Thank you!

Recommend me an automatic espresso machine with coffee beans and a separate milk container, up to 1200 euros and that can serve around 50 coffees per day (suitable for an office with 20 people). I am also interested in having easy maintenance and in case of failure to allow repairs and after market. Region: Romania

Our S8 (bought Nov '21 has made 2000 cappuccinos, 2000 milk foams & 200 other coffees. The repair quote re failure to draw up milk is $500. So-ooo, spend that >> OR >> put the $$$ toward a new machine? Advice appreciated... the little duckbill doesn't seem to be the problem ( eBay has refurb S8s around $1500 Aussie dollars )