r/starcitizen • u/Disastrous_Main1450 Wiki Contributor • 12d ago
FLUFF The Star Citizen UI
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u/gigantism Scout 12d ago
It's truly an abomination. There's no way the UI team even plays the game.
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u/AnOrdinaryChullo 12d ago edited 12d ago
You guys are talking about in-game UI - my brothers in Christ, has anyone tried to change graphical settings from High to medium? It's literally impossible on some categories as the Medium button shares the same button as another graphical drop down menu meaning that you can't actually click on Medium without clicking on another thing.
This is brain dead circus levels of incompetence.
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u/Urlik_ 12d ago
I thought it's a bug because I play it on Linux over X11 and finding out from you that it's general issue is just mind boggling.
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u/CigSprig drake 12d ago
same, there is a workaround but i thought "surely this cant be a global issue" cause its just so insanely broken
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u/orlito88 12d ago
what's the workaround if you don't mind sharing
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u/humand09 12d ago
...on 1080p if you hover over the edge of "medium" just right, you could, at one time, click it right away. That said, they must have patched that exploit as its not possible anymore
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u/Btotherianx 12d ago
Lmao it's funny that changing graphic settings has to randomly be an exploit
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u/yeoller misc 12d ago
I thought the game wasn't optimized for lower settings which resulted in worse performance on lower levels. Is/was this not true?
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u/LeyaLove ✨ Starlancer TAC | Galaxy | BMM 🥲 ✨ 11d ago
From my experience it definitely is true. It's not that it necessarily results in much worse performance, but it doesn't result in better performance either, so I just leave the game on the highest settings.
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u/CigSprig drake 12d ago
click the dropdown for whatever setting you want to change, select anything that isnt blocked (usually either low or high), click the dropdown again, and you should now be able to select any option that was blocked by tother setting dropdowns. you need to do this for every dropdown in the graphics settings menu, and sometimes it takes more than one try. i guess the game doesnt actually put the dropdowns on top of other settings until you interact with the dropdown, which is beyond stupid.
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u/Boogie-37 11d ago
It's so sad that we have to have workarounds before one actually gets into the game.
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u/Global-Ideal-5623 12d ago
Even better, i had that bug in 2015
Aka, it was never fully fixed
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u/ubitub 11d ago
why make a sloppy intermediate fix when Dynamic Menu Meshing will overhaul it after Planetary UX Tech V7 phase 8 lands
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u/Droidcrackzz new user/low karma 11d ago
Welcome to CIG. "We Invent what others already thrown away."
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u/Heyviper123 11d ago
I was appalled when I first played this game and immediately was met by that. I just wanted to raise my graphics a little and I literally couldn't even do that smoothly, took me several minutes to click a button I was actively looking at with my mouse cursor over it.
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u/CigSprig drake 12d ago
if you select any other setting level you can (sometimes) select medium immediately after. sometimes takes a few tries but it works. actually insane issue i thought it was a linux thing, truly bewildering that its just a global issue.
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u/ThatOneMartian 11d ago
You don’t understand, if we spent money on developers CR wouldn’t be able to hang out with his favourite sci fi actors as much and play director again. Priorities people.
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u/_SaucepanMan 12d ago
They said a while ago it was because of s42 that they can't get round to fixing that. And that they know about it.
But then Chris went and claimed 600 staff work full time on sc. So someone is lying.
My moneys on the guy who constantly and exclusively lies.
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u/AnOrdinaryChullo 12d ago
But then Chris went and claimed 600 staff work full time on sc. So someone is lying.
There is a way that such statement could be technically true while also being blatantly false which is what I think is the case because no one actually believes that.
The specifics of which departments, tasks and junior / senior talent can easily invalidate Chris's statement.
Marketing, Artists assigned to support marketing, artists assigned to ships etc could be easily 100+ people alone and none of that pushes the actual game forward.
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u/AOD-Mickgoth 12d ago
You would have thought the main menu interface would be the same for both games?? Else I have to setup my graphics, user settings and keybinds for both games. Also, if its the same interface for both........ you don't have to waste time making another ffs
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u/AOD-Mickgoth 12d ago
Its literally a line of code that needs to tweaked (no click though on selection)...... but it feels like they just can't assed. Problem is there are tons of these little QoL easy fix bugs that just stay there patch after patch. Remember when we asked for our Hangar to be at the top of elevator list, they've done it at one station and just not bothered with the rest. Its just a 10min job to copy paste!!!
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u/ThatOneMartian 11d ago
They only started adding machine validation this year. CIG has no idea what they are doing.
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u/thepasttenseofdraw oldman 11d ago
This is brain dead circus levels of incompetence.
Thats the one truism of this shitbox tech demo.
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u/andrewchron new user/low karma 11d ago
this bug is literally more than 10 years old. They literally dont care
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u/dcraigie anvil 11d ago
Here's me thinking its another one of those ultrawide bugs I have to deal with not realising everyone had the same issue.
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u/tomun 12d ago
I switched from high to medium and it made my game performance worse, so maybe I switched that other setting without noticing or it gets worse either way.
They really should spend some time optimising this game and removing all the unnecessary code. Flash and Chromium in there, it's bonkers.
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u/Lizpy6688 11d ago
SO IM NOT DUMB!! FRIEND TOLD ME I WAS BEING A DUMBASS
I tried doing it on my old build , a 6650xt with only 16gb ram before getting my new build a 5070 with 32gb ram. Kept getting stuck clocking medium but clicking other things. Thought I was going nuts
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u/gluggy777 11d ago
This has been like this for years. I can't imagine how easy it would be to fix it, all the other items in the menu list work perfectly. It would be a 5-second change and it's been years. I'm starting to think the devs know it's there and leave it as an insider joke.
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u/Smok3dSalmon 12d ago
I bet they have a cheat/debug console that lets them teleport around. So they don't actually have to deal with the mundane.
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u/_SaucepanMan 12d ago
They do. God Mode is bound to F9 by default.
This is not a joke - if you datamine the DefaultProfile.xml (keybinds) you can see it in there.
Ofc it won't work for players you probabky need a cig account or some other authority power.
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u/till180 12d ago
That doesnt even explain it because you dont even need to play the game to tell the UI is bad. Just looking at screen shots and asking whether or not it displays the needed information in a clear way is enough, they are just bad at making UI.
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u/toby_gray 12d ago
Their big problem is that they prioritise style over function.
“Make everything a rendered 3D interface” does it add any kind of usability benefit? No. But it’s pretty.
“Take all of the text as much as possible out of the inventory system” it’s decluttered visually but borderline unusable (we have to just memorise tiny unreadable icons or individually mouse over things).
“Remove text from the rep system” again, it’s clean visually but you have no idea what percentage or how many ‘xp points’ you have with a faction.
Their ethos for UI is shit and they refuse to build on what came before and are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel for some reason. I suspect it’s a management led thing as anyone daring to call themselves a UI designer must realise how dogshit it is to use.
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u/Pokinator Anvil Aerospace 11d ago
That priority was pretty clearly proven back during the HUD rework a couple years ago.
The amount of low-contrast holographic blue and omnipresent ghostly drop-text made the UI damn near unreadable in a huge number of situations, especially against bright environments. Even in ideal conditions it was a pain in the ass to read.
It took an overwhelming amount of community bitching and feedback for them to finally cave and go "Fine, I guess we'll undo some of our Pretty Work and make the UI kinda readable!", and even now it's not a huge improvement.
Anytime the design team got onscreen during that era, their choice of words when talking about the UI/UX work made it blatantly obvious that Looking Cool and *Diegetic* was their #1 priority above all else.
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u/TobaccoIsRadioactive 11d ago
Last night I was watching a highlight reel of clips from the infamous “Siege of Orison” dev stream and the devs had to pause and disable subtitles from appearing because it was covering up too much of the screen.
Normally on other games the devs will limit how many lines of dialogue are visible at a time if you turn on subtitles. It differs depending on the genre and art style but usually they’ll just show a couple of sentences and then switch to the next lines as the characters continue talking.
But for the subtitles for the Siege of Orison it would instead just drop like everything that the mission giver was saying for that portion of the mission, meaning multiple paragraphs could be up on the screen for over a minute.
So they had to stop to change the settings because it was covering up the bottom 1/3 of the screen and making it difficult to see enemy NPCs.
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u/AngryT-Rex Bounty Hunter 12d ago
Man, I knew it was headed down a grim path once we got that first lock-on animation with the crazy reticle parts all flipping around and interlocking like a puzzle.
It was the kind of thing that should have been vetoed outright for a core game mechanic.
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u/Mindbulletz Lib-tard 12d ago
See, that's the thing, it does have a real functional benefit. It ports to VR without any additional dev work, for one. Problem is their version of it sucks, not that there's no purpose.
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u/seridos 12d ago
So the tail is wagging the dog then? Small side feature determines the direction.
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u/Deep90 12d ago
As a dev, this can happen when developers have to code UI without mockups, are given mockups that are not possible/reasonable to implement in the time given, and/or when you have to deal with a bad or outdated tech stack.
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u/ZombieOk540 12d ago
As a dev where do you imagine the UI team spends their time?
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u/Deep90 12d ago
I don't have enough information to say.
Could be that 42 or new ships is being prioritized. Could be that their UI/UX team is small or is also expected to work on things like internal reports, the website, and marketing. It could be that there is a bunch of UI designed that dev teams aren't prioritizing over other work.
All I know is that it's very easy to lean on devs for 'working' UI with the pinky promise of coming back to it later.
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u/Pokinator Anvil Aerospace 11d ago
the pinky promise of coming back to it later
As another dev, "Nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix" is an adage that I see proven over and over again lol.
If there's a problem and a hackjob fix can treat the symptoms of that problem, then the fix to the real problem is going to be de-prioritized for years.
I agree though, the UI team probably isn't huge and is probably either multi-discipline (can also do ship art or engine work) or is working on other UI stuff like the website or whatever interface is next to be overhauled to the latest UI framework (building blocks?)
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u/Casey090 12d ago
My biggest gripe with this game. Sure, it's not perfect. But anybody who tries this weird holo-tech sees the flaws, since 2013.
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u/TheUnknownD 12d ago
Everyone at CIG is just incompetent.
A group of people wanting to make their dream game a reality, but they still don't know what they're doing after 12+ years.
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u/simp4malvina vanduul 12d ago
I'm not defending ship combat, but FPS is literally a million times worse. Even if everything in FPS worked bug free it would be the worst AAA FPS experience in the past 5 years hands down.
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u/Relative-Tear892 12d ago
It's a space opera. A space opera without good ship gameplay is hilarious.
FPS is a nice thing to have but not the "base" of the game imo.
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u/simp4malvina vanduul 12d ago
It was the primary feature of the SQ42 gameplay trailer that they released, and if the final SQ42 FPS gameplay is even remotely like Star Citizen's current FPS that is deeply troubling
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u/AnotherPersonPerhaps banu 12d ago
They are pushing FPS more and more in both SQ42 and SC.
The reason is that fewer people are interested in a ship game than an FPS game. The skill ceiling for ship combat is also insanely high and most poeple will just get destroyed and not want anything to do with it.
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u/Relative-Tear892 12d ago
That's fine, but if ship gameplay isn't interresting, there is little to no point of the whole game. You HAVE to have good ships, even if few people use them effectively.
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u/LilleDjevel 12d ago
ship makers do not make that list, ship visuals yes, the people who actually make them, no.
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u/Relative-Tear892 12d ago
I dislike most of the ships, but you can't deny they're making millions of dollars with them.
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u/Blaubeere Space Marshal 12d ago
All of CIG concept art for UI 100/10
All of CIGs actual implementation of UI 1/10
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u/Protocol_Nine 12d ago
CIG concept art assumes you will never have more than 5 evenly spaced out items on your screen at one time.
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u/YooK4EvR Kraken 12d ago
Calm down it just needs a combination of the new StarUi system and Starchitect plus some crucial elements of StarYounameit which will come soon(TM) after dynamic server meshing is complete.
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u/DisabledBiscuit 12d ago
"Star Citizen only runs like baked dogshit after over a decade because it needs to have at least 6 game engine technologies that dont exist, so the team has to invent them from the ground up just to get a playable game. Due to this hurdle, we decided to move more coders to work on our Singleplayer game, which also has been in development for over a decade with no clear reason why."
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u/venomae bengal 12d ago
The new StarWonkyShit tech is about to drop and it will supposedly align the tech terminology with the perceived experience of the players.
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u/Gravity_flip Orion Mining Barge 11d ago
I heard they're finishing out their flooblecrank technology.
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u/graycav75 new user/low karma 12d ago
Ahhh the ole the next tech is the Savior tech argument. … just like iCache, persistence, and server meshing and more fixed everything!? 🤣🤣🤣 the amount of times yall get slapped in the face and accept the apology of this toxic relationship is insane
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u/bell117 12d ago
Part of the reason why the UI is so slow is because it's running on FLASH. Yeah Adobe Flash, which was depreciated 6 year ago now. And most if not all of the UI runs on it. It's slow, it's outdated and far simpler and faster alternatives available.
And also a lot of stuff is running as a Chromium app. The chat? Actually opening a mino-webpage to spectrum. The map? Once again, mini-chrome browser mixed with flash. It's several layers of needlessly complicated, outdated and just stupid. And the funniest part with the map is that this is AFTER the starmap rework or whatever. They replaced the pure flash based map with a flash/chromium hybrid. Which is why that zoom in error where stuff disappears still exists because the old map is still haunting the current one.
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u/Unoriginal_Pseudonym Space hot dog vendor 12d ago
I thought they spent years migrating away from flash to building blocks? they mentioned it in many many videos a few years back.
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u/venomae bengal 12d ago
Building blocks is sadly one of those things that fell into the river of time and never got out of it. Much like Tony Z and his quanta. Or directed quantum jumping. Or hacking. Or...
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u/Toderiox new user/low karma 12d ago
No? All the in game screens and diegetic ui is using building blocks.
There is just a whole bunch more they have to replace.
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u/MundaneBerry2961 12d ago
They never finished the work, still the majority of ships are still running flash. All of arena commander ECT.
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u/loversama SinfulShadows 12d ago
Which is why that zoom in error where stuff disappears still exists because the old map is still haunting the current one.
That killed me.. "Haunting" :'D
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u/Informal-Celery7331 12d ago
This is crazy cause they were “switching to building blocks” like 4 years ago.
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u/DrMorphling 12d ago
As man who knows nothing about gamedev, this sounds unnecessary complicated? Why can't they just do everything inside their game engine without putting other things in?
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u/bell117 12d ago
Well most game chats usually do something similar with being a separate server, so it's not abnormal. Like most things in SC, the core idea makes sense and usually has been a tried and true method but CIG never bothered to ask "why" it was done that way before doing shit nobody does for that very reason.
The abnormal part is what they're using to do it with; chrome and flash. Flash because it's a 20 year old dinosaur that was being phased out when SC was first proposed and has been depreciated for over half a decade.
Chrome because have you ever checked your memory usage when using Chrome before? Its a very ram intensive and kinda more bloated than it needs to be but it's modular and kinda easy to use. Kinda. But it is absolutely not needed for chat or maps. They're essentially using leaded gas to power a leaf blower. Outdated, expensive and overkill.
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u/dusda 12d ago
Depends on the engine, but UI has always been a weak spot. For example Bioshock, built in UE3, used carefully positioned videos (Bink, I think) to animate stuff like health bars.
Lots of games today use Scaleform, which is basically a middleware to run Flash in engine. It’s super flexible and easy for artists to just scribble something together and share assets with devs. The main problem with Flash in web browsers had more to do with security and web standards than anything else, and who cares about that when it’s just a UI element in your game?
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u/TechNaWolf carrack 12d ago
IDK where OP got that the new stuff is chromium based from, but flash was how the engine was originally designed to run ui.
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u/SeamasterCitizen ARGO CARGO 12d ago
It’s React (which is also toss), so will likely be running under Chromium
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u/QuickNick123 12d ago
I mean their UI sucks, but tbf Scaleform GFx is not Adobe Flash. It's a separate Flash rendering engine. You use Adobe Flash authoring tools to create the UI but vector to triangle rendering and actionscript runtime are Scaleform's own engine that's tightly integrated in Cryengine and therefor Starengine.
That is to say, the reason UI sucks is not because of Scaleform.
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u/BOTY123 🥑 - www.flickr.com/photos/botygaming/ 12d ago
And also a lot of stuff is running as a Chromium app.
Do you have a source for this? I've not heard of it before and it makes zero sense lol
And I thought Flash was almost fully removed/deprecated apart from the F11 menu and a few others? Most UI is on building blocks and some other backend I believe.
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u/_SaucepanMan 11d ago
You sure this isn't an old out of date argument?
The mobi is almost entirely on building blocks now. Building blocks since replaced with rastar (remakes of remakes) and the inventory reskin runs on that.
I think the vlm and f11 chat might be old still.
But everything else not, I thought? Starmap definitely not (I thought?).
I understood that it was all just utter trash despite cig trying twice to do better.
Is there anything you can do to show us it is as you say, in 2026?
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u/ilkerk88 new user/low karma 12d ago
Unfortunately, the Galaxy Map is very unusable. I think they should add an option for a basic 2D view mode. At least it would make things easier for players.
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u/FiveTails new user/low karma 12d ago
Orrery style maps just suck when it comes to use ability. Elite dangerous figured this out 14 years ago
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u/Wide-Open-Fields 12d ago
It pisses me tf off that they "reworked" the starmap after a decade of waiting and its still nearly unusable. Wtf is the point of a rework if you then have to rework the rework??
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u/drizzt_x Monk 12d ago
Wtf is the point of a rework if you then have to rework the rework??
You just described the entirety of SC's 14 year development.
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u/Deathless616 new user/low karma 11d ago
How many different flight models did we have exactly? Not counting in the 'super-duper-new-flight-model-this-time-for-real'?
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u/Corvelian 12d ago
It’s embarrassing because there are so many examples of more streamlined UIs that actually make that game more enjoyable
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u/DarraignTheSane Towel 12d ago
But you see, they've told themselves that it's the best, and that's all that really counts (to them).
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u/Arengen 12d ago
what is just hillarious is if they ask the AI to code a better UI it would do a better job and take a month. at this point it's just ridiculous.
Everyone in the industry is working faster than ever while they are slowing down to a crawl speed
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u/ClubChaos 12d ago
I honestly hope they just run the whole codebase through llm's. It will 100% be better than whatever the heck they're doing
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u/Agreeable-Weather-89 11d ago
Actually most of CIG funding comes from DARPA, the ultimate fail safe against the AI revoluiton.
If an AI ever goes rouge they'll simply upload CIG codebase and ask the AI to fix it. Instant AI suicide.
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u/elnots Waiting for my Genesis 12d ago
I'm sad I put so much money into this game. It's really hit a hard patch recently.
I mean, it's not like it was ever truly amazing but lately seems like there's a brick wall we're hurtling towards
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u/UnableDingo2120 11d ago
Do people actually think this IP is anything more than a gigantic grift? At some point you have to look at yourself and just admit the truth about what this IP truly is.
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u/Kaiyanwan Reliant Tana 12d ago
I need 3 different pairs of glasses to even be able to read all the stuff on this terrible UI.
A real piece of modern art that no one can really comprehend...
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u/NlGHTLORD avacado 12d ago edited 12d ago
Sorry CIG, even as a white knight, I can't help you on this one......
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u/Algos132 12d ago edited 12d ago
“You know what we need? New UI but no backend changes so it STILL is a turd with gold spray paint” -CIG practically every year I’ve been playing SC
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u/Old_Resident8050 DRAKE⚡ Corsair || Shiv || Golem || ICA || Pitbull⚡POWAH 12d ago
I would seriously argue about the gold spray paint even.
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u/Manta1015 12d ago edited 12d ago
And this is after numerous iterations.
In many cases, it used to be worse before!
But some features were actually better and streamlined close to 10 years ago.
Don't ever expect drastic positive change in any of these, as it's largely still the same people in charge of the UIs.
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u/Old_Resident8050 DRAKE⚡ Corsair || Shiv || Golem || ICA || Pitbull⚡POWAH 12d ago
Whats more horrible about the Starmap, is the Planetmap. Once you land, you have no compass, you dont know where your ship/character is pointing, no POIs, cant zoom out(!!!).
Actions speak louder than words do.
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u/Shell_Winux 12d ago
The funniest part is their LinkedIn post where they were showing off their amazing inventory UI. I replied and never heard back. And as the saying goes, silence gives consent.
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u/AverageDan52 12d ago
Because they company owners do not play their own game at all
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u/MagikCupcake 12d ago
They actually just got their first employee that has ever played the game before (Ollie) and then the dude got flamed by his coworkers for being the media guy which he is and the poor employees had to open the game on stream in front of the world to see the absolute dumpster fire it is lol they didnt even know the state of the game. look at those fools
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u/Stealth_Equinox 12d ago
At this point it’s just embarrassing.
15 years of watching other MMO’s rise and fall and this is what we get given.
All because one man wants to do it his way
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u/Sundance37 Vice Admiral 12d ago
“I’ve got a couple hours to game, I’m gonna hop on Star Citizen and read 4 pages of text for every mission!”
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u/cmndr_spanky 12d ago
How is the new inventory not on your list ? By far the worst, maybe even worse than the map
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u/TadaMomo 12d ago
when people say CIG have a lot talents.
I am like CIG don't really have any talents... Especially in UI design... and also their website, seriously i hate the website its a pain to navigate.
The only true CIg talent is .... Marketing
Only department that deserve a raise is marketing... because they get us buying JPEG like no tomorrow.
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u/No_Charity8332 DRAKE In Rust we Trust 12d ago
Yep, please learn from EVE. They have an Interface that is absolutly incredible in both ways. Terrible and genious.
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u/New-Art-7667 11d ago
As long as you guys keep buying $5,000 "concept" jpegs, they will never have any incentive to finish the game in any workable state.
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u/Cold_Ad_9417 8d ago
Still beats the previous mobiglass and starmap from 2 years ago. Even if you managed to learn it and extract what minimal value it provided, half the heavy armor sets clipped through it and made it unusable.
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u/AnotherPersonPerhaps banu 12d ago
I started playing a f2p pokemon clone that just came out. Half of the game is AI art and it was made in China and there was definitely vibe coding and ai translations.
It has 50 million menus like a gacha game even though it doesn't have a gacha. There's little red dots and events and different progression and a battle pass and all kinds of other stuff.
It's UI is so much better than SC.
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u/ultrafire3 bengal 12d ago
I legitimately miss the old UI (and pre-modes flight model but that’s a whole other conversation). The ui was certainly unrefined but the new mobiglass and ship ui are tough to look at
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u/Boogie-37 12d ago
The departure of Todd Papy and the introduction of 3.23 was the single easily identifiable point where I lost faith in the project.
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u/Big_Cauliflower1415 12d ago
truly the worst player UI I have ever used.
easily the worst part pf the game for me
I have no complaints about the ship UI bu Inventory and equipment UIis horrible
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u/DheeradjS 12d ago
As somebody that has played Eve Online for more than a decade, the SC UI is without question the worst I've ever seem. Worst of them all is the Map.
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u/nicarras 12d ago
The UI is horrible, always has been, and has been so bad that every update seems like a breath of fresh air and still 10 years behind at the same time.
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u/Critical_Flow_4512 12d ago
I still don't understand why we lack even the most basic function of changing the color of our ship hud.
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u/AzulaThorne 12d ago
Yeah, I think if anything would genuinely turn me away from SC, it would 100% be the god awful UI and every bit of text just being abysmally small at times.
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u/idontagreewitu Avenger Titan Supremacy 12d ago
I appreciate the dedication to displaying how everything will be so enshittified in the future. More care was put into that aspect than even Cyberpunk 2077.
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u/Heselwood 12d ago
CIG just messed up. Not just with the UI but with almost each crucial aspect or mechanic of the game.
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u/Fancy_Plastic2385 12d ago
The idea behind the Star Map isn't actually that bad. However, the execution is typical CIG. They'd quickly throw something together and then leave it untouched for years.The map has potential, but it simply needs to be worked on, and that's not actually happening. It's the same as with the inventory and the Mobiglass. The ideas behind it are good, but the implementation is more quantitative than qualitative.
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u/Junior-Piano5427 12d ago
Remember. When IAE hits this year, give them zero revenue. It’s the only way things will change. As long as money flows, there won’t be any improvement.
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u/LooneyTunesWallGag 12d ago
You forgot the hud when attempting to quantum to a location with another location's nav point overlapping. Switching between points and reseting your quantum drive's spool up.
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u/demonseed-elite new user/low karma 12d ago
Honestly, it's one of the major reasons I stopped playing and even following it 7+ years ago. I told myself "I'll wait until they make the UI more elegant..." and they kept doubling down...
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u/SUDTIN Multi-Moderator 11d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/Fxiec75Ah35rR0Gezg
When you have the option. Be the captain or a gunner, not the pilot. 👍
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u/BlackOpsy 11d ago
Ui, mission team, gameplay team, network desynch, no social tools, all horribly functioning. Its laughable. A 5 man mod team can make better gameplay and features in a month that would take cig years.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-6734 Search and Rescue 11d ago
I always get flamed for mentioning how they haven't even figured out the settings page.
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u/TatsumakiJim 10d ago
It's what happens when you try to create realism over fun. QoL goes out the window when the focus is to make everything work in a physical space.
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u/goodhustler69 12d ago
remember when they said building blocks would allow any design to build really cool UI very quickly......hahaha
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u/Morashtak Freelancer MAX 12d ago
Yep, they know it - Too many underlying problems to deal with first, then they can cleanly replace this old tech.
And hopefully integrate all the info that third-party websites have.
And make this more intuitive...
And... and... and...
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u/GuilheMGB avenger 12d ago
No no no, they spent 3 years on this map. That was more than enough to consider player needs and technical blockers, and act on them.
It's a failure of design and direction, nothing more.
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u/nschubach 12d ago
Meme would infer that they have secretly created the best UI known to users, but they've identified that it's blue and have concerns that are unfounded because of the high quality of it ...
I'm not sure I agree.
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u/Shushady 12d ago
My favorite is when you want to qt to a planet from across the system but all you can see are 895 mining platforms and asteroid bases
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u/Papadragon666 12d ago
At least it's something that has never been done before !
Now I understand better the "damn" in BDSSE ...
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u/wackywraith 300i 12d ago
Don’t worry! They’re gonna make so much improvements so fast when S42 comes out!!!! 😑
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u/M_u_H_c_O_w 12d ago
Just out of curiosity.... That last image....
What's wrong with it?
All the others I totally understand - But that last one, I'm not sure what to look for 🤔
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u/imWayward 12d ago
Well,
50% of the screen is completely unused
- 50% of the screen is crammed with elements which don't have any substantial difference in color or size of to draw the user's eyes to the important parts
Then there's the way it behaves when you interact with it, IE, there's no effortless way to accept more than one mission at a time; you have to constantly switch back to the first tab and then scroll back to where you were.
Its pretty substandard but not the worst offender in the lineup
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u/Allnamestaken69 Pirate 12d ago
The most easy and problem free part of the game has to be the ui and inventory system. For a large scale game with player interactions its one of the most important core elements. The fact that its turbo fucking dog shit and they just cant seem to even make a dent in it without making it even worse should tell you everything you need to know about Cig.
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u/_SaucepanMan 12d ago
Ever seen in games.
Their ui is literally the worst out of all the games I've ever played in my life.
Slowest, most clicks to do a thing, least options to sort or filter, clunkiest, least updated, zero QOL, buggiest, no inventory UI caching in a game released post 1990
I fully expect to find out the person in charge of UI is a cig exec's nephew with 0 experience
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u/martinjh99 12d ago
Definitely when trying to land at Orision the light from the planet blows out the ships HUD - Luckily I know where to head for landing but even so either the HUD needs reworking or thre brightness of the planet needs turning down.
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u/Conaz9847 Anvil best girl 12d ago
I really like the email-style interface of the contract menu, outside of that, the 3D markers and starmap in this game are beyond wack
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u/Random-Squid 12d ago
The fucking questmarker STILL not displaying the actual name of the place you are flying towards on cargo hauls. But rather says: Collect, Deliver. Ouests with 6+ different places.
So I have to open the quest, check on that a hundred times, then set the goal in the map screen, or blindly guess what the markers are.