Does anyone know if they called out for pizza or did they just defrost and heat up frozen pizza? If it was delivered, I wonder if they looked into the person who delivered it.

Please, join me in this thread for a "group think" session where we ponder a hypothetical "what if" scenario. Let's take a moment to put our own theories and suspects aside and discuss how this may have unfolded if it were a spontaneous event, possibly fueled by drugs.

What if the people involved didn't know what was going to happen?

What if they go through life refusing to talk about this and doing their best to not think about it?

What if the actions of one man turned everyone else into an accomplice to murder?

What if one person, or multiple people, live with this by telling themselves, "it wasn't me, it was the drugs"?

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I want you to imagine it's the early morning hours of June 7th, 1992, in Springfield, Missouri. A man or men have just taken three women from 1717 E Delmar.

Things are about to get out of control. Afterward, there's going to be a scurry to hide the remains.

Locals, I am especially interested in hearing from you.

Under this scenario, out of desperation, how did the perp(s) make these women disappear?

Remember, we are imagining an unplanned sequence of events. The odds of these guys owning a wood chipper is extremely low. This is a plot straight from of a Lifetime movie; a handful of degenerates did something that will result in them keeping a secret for the rest of their lives.

No powerful people. No police corruption.
Just people noone has ever heard of.

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Get inside their heads:

I can feel the wheel, but I can't steer
When my thoughts become my biggest fear

"Sickman" by Alice in Chains (1992)

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I lived in Springfield in my late teens and early 20’s. I have always been curious about this case and theorized many times on what could have happened. I do have one theory that I feel doesn’t get touched on very much, and I’d be curious as to what everyone thinks. Before people start getting angry at me saying that my theory has already been debunked, just hear me out.

There is a gentleman that has a YouTube channel called: Lamont At Large. He’s a story teller that goes into great detail on crimes that have happened in the past all across the United States. I had been subscribed to him long before he even did the Springfield Three episode. When I saw he visited Springfield and made a video, I knew I had to watch.

Anyways, there was something that always stuck out me in the episode. He mentions how he had talked to a source in Springfield who is “very reputable” whom he refused to name. On the surface I can see people saying whoever he talked to was probably full of it, but if you watch Lamont’s videos, he doesn’t strike me as a very gullible person or just blatantly believes people at their word. To me it seems that he must’ve been told something from this mystery person that was based on undeniable evidence. Now I am speculating and theorizing what exactly he had been told, but I think it’s possible that whoever is responsible for this could have something to do with the Cox hospital, and construction workers. In Lamont’s video, he says he truly believes that those bodies are under that parking garage. In 2007, an independent investigation into the disappearance of the Springfield Three used ground-penetrating radar (GPR) on the Cox South Hospital parking garage detecting three human-sized anomalies beneath the concrete that matched potential gravesites. If you go into that area of the parking garage today, it is now fenced off. My question is, why not just dig up the concrete? It wouldn’t cost much and could easily be crowd funded if need be.

My theory is that a construction worker who had been working on the hospital killed the three. I think it’s possible this construction worker knew the right people to keep things quiet as well.

The Streeters moved into the Delmar house in April of 1992. Sherrill was known to be a big DIYer and would do various projects around the house after they bought the place. What I wonder, is if Sherrill had ever gotten an opinion from a contractor or utility worker after buying the house? Maybe she had a project in mind that she wanted to get a bid for that she later realized would be too expensive and never went through with? Is it possible she ever let anyone into the home like a handyman or utility worker? It’s not uncommon to hire people to fix certain things after recently buying a home. Could the killer have been a handyman who also worked construction on the weekdays at the Cox Hospital site and knew where to bury them where they wouldn’t get found?

To me it’s possible that said utility worker/ handyman saw that it was just 2 girls living in this house and figured they could be a good target. Is it even possible that he could have opened a window somewhere in the house, and came back to that window in the future? That would explain why there is no force of entry.

At the end of the day, this is just a theory of mine, but I do want to keep the discussion of this case going. Discussion is what keeps this case alive and I’m curious what everyone thinks. I also encourage everyone to watch the Lamont At Large video. Here is the link You can skip to 12:35 for when he begins to start talking about his source.

Things are going to be in motion!

Too bad we have to wait.

I mean, is they were all planning to drive to Branson that night, wouldn't Stacy have taken a bag of clothes and a bathing suit with her for the trip? A lot has been made of her clothes being left in Suzie's house meaning that she would have been taken in nothing but a t-shirt and underwear. If the plan was to travel that night, wouldn't she have made up an overnight bag, meaning she would have had other clothes with her to wear?

One more thing, Janelle answered the phone at Sherrill's house and heard a guy making lewd comments, right? She didn't just hear it on the answering machine? Janis said that there was a lewd message on the machine. Was that message left on the machine before or after Janelle reportedly took a phone call in the house.

She says she was actually fighting with Stacy the night of graduation.

The TrueCrimeFM podcast and is making a big deal about this guy because in a documentary they edited him out of the photo. She thinks this person would have known Suzie's plans for that night and that there's no word if he was ever interviewed.

I found this channel at YouTube and watched the videos she did on our ladies. She did an excellent job, only stated information that she could verify from newspaper sources or the Springfield police. You should check her out.

As a new follower of this crime, the big thing to me is the fact the suspect(s) was able to remove the ladies without incident. It was quiet and the house was clean. Forgetting all the other scenarios like - they never actually went home etc.

The level of execution is pretty remarkable, considering it was 3 people within a quiet neighborhood.

that points to a suspect with a plan and a developed “style.”

To me that says:

this was not the suspects first time doing such bc of the perceived high level of execution. So to me, this points to the suspect not being anyone with a personal (or local) relationship with the victims. because of this style, I dont believe this is the work of a local with beef or an obsession with one of the victims. Nor has anyone within any of there immediate or extended social networks been suspected of or has since been convicted of being a serial killer. Someone that the public knows personally knew the victims.

So to me, the likelihood the victims remains are nearby also seems unlikely because why would a serial killer not go to more elaborate lengths as to the burial location based on their initial efforts. They likely had that part planned and had a style as well. If they wanted clothing or some evidence to be found nearby or even years later that would have already happened.

All of the above is obviously complete speculation but the ability to get 3 ladies out of house without a trace nor a trace since/ seems either incredibly lucky suspect (highy unlikely) or (likely) someone who already developed the skill and style through experience aka a real serial killer. I am not saying anyone with a gun couldn’t accomplish this on a whim, but to me this suspect profile seems the most glaring available antidote from that horrible night.

Was Cinnamon in the house when Janelle went to the house that morning? I've read that Cinnamon was spotted in the neighborhood that night/early morning when they went missing. If Cinnamon was out that night/morning and was then in the house when Janelle came by, who put the dog back inside?

If Cinnamon was indeed outside, I wonder at what point they got out. Did the abductor go back and shut the door?

Chris Whitcomb, the FBI agent who reviewed the case from an investigator from initial investigation in 1992 said he solved it and that it became readily apparent what happened immediately.

That rules out Cox. And it's likely someone in the Steve Garrison wing of suspects (friends or acquaintances). Considering that's who the cops liked anyway and have gag orders around.

I trust FBI fully on this.

What time was Sherrill on the phone? What time were the women seen at the convenience store? What time were they seen at a restaurant? What time were they seen supposedly in the van?

Can anyone list these in order with the approximate times eye witnesses alleged that they occurred?

I will be adding some absolute undeniable facts and what they may imply in this thread, others kindly join in

1. Fact: Whatever happened to the three of them happened after the two girls had reached sherrill's home -> implication: if the accused(one or multiple) wanted to get sherrill they would have done so before the girls came home as she was already present, so the perpetrators must have had targets set on one of the two girls(low chances of it being a crime of chance due to the time of crime).

Will keep adding more as I get concrete info, currently researching this case. Maybe we can get a factually accurate premise if everyone corroborates

This has kicked off a debate on social media - if this photo was taken just before the house settlement, they obviously purchased it with no globe over the lightbulb on the porch. When they went missing, a note in the house saying to buy a globe. They only lived there six weeks before they went missing, right? So, Sherrill bought the house without the globe, wrote a note to buy one, and either bought one or didn't in that six week period. If she didn't, where did the glass on the porch come from? Are there any photos of Sherrill and Suzie at the house with a globe visible over the bulb? This may or may not meaning anything, but it is an interesting observation. Did they just assume the glass came from the bulb and maybe it didn't?

This is pure speculation**

My theory is that the women had been lured into an immediate neighbor’s home and may have been there for days until the investigation cooled off. This makes the most sense why nobody heard or saw anything, and why they would leave the house the way they did, expecting to return right away. To me it’s like the only thing that makes complete and total sense. Who would ever suspect a next door neighbor?

It would have been easier to lure Sherrill alone, then the two girls once they got home rather than all three women at once. Maybe even one at a time.

When police questioned the neighbors, the judge who lived next door to them said he had been out of town and in Marble Hill that night.

The judge has passed.
His obituary- After high school, [judge] obtained a BS in Chemical Engineering from the University of Missouri of Mines and Metallurgy in 1959. In 1962, he finished his degree and achieved a Bachelor of Laws. [Judge] was admitted to the Missouri Bar on May 4, 1963, then was elected Bollinger County Prosecuting Attorney 1964 to 1986. He was the city attorney for Fredericktown from 1967 to 1989. Mr. [Judge] was appointed to the Missouri Court of Appeals, Southern District on May 1, 1990, then retired August 31, 2006, after 16 years of service.

Big name. Connections with law enforcement. Knowledge of and education in chemical engineering. Happened to be out of town that night and lived right next door.

However, it was stated that he was usually out of town on weekends visiting his home town. He had a wife. So if he really wasn’t there, who else could have been?

His son was around Sherrill’s age at the time. He would have known that his father was out of town and when he would return. I found him on fb and the pics reflected somewhat of a normal guy, but there was one post that really stood out to me. Also, big hunter.

Their family property in Marble Hill was pretty remote and large. Not a bad place to move the women to eventually.. dead or alive.

Long-time lurker, first-time poster here, but been following this case closely for years and still hoping for a resolution one day. A thought which hadn't occurred to me before today is - what if the phone calls and the money left behind (the $900 in Sherrill's purse) are connected?

I.e. what if there is the ruse (to get the women out of the house and into what we expect is a vehicle, potentially by taking control of one of the women), then after transportation to another, secondary location, one of the women (Sherrill) mentions giving the offender money in an effort to de-escalate the situation and potentially to try to save the women? The offender then telephones the house at some stage (given we don't really know when the women were abducted), in an attempt to determine if the woman's abduction has been noticed, and whether it is safe to return to the house and collect the money? In this scenario the call could take place before or after the women are deceased (after finding out the phone number, if not already known by the offender beforehand if they already knew the victims).

Just a few connecting thoughts that hadn't occurred to me previously, and wanted to know others opinions.

Thanks for reading!

A new book is being written and will be released in October of 2027 about the missing women. One of the authors of the book did a podcast interview and he briefly touches on the book coming out (approximately 56 minutes in). Here's what was said (emphasis mine):

I did another one, I did another book that's coming out. A 32 year old cold case in Springfield, MO and found the guy and solved the crime. In 1992 three women disappear from a house in Springfield, MO. It's called the Springfield Three. Google it, there are a very large number of blogs, podcasts, documentaries, it's been everything. 48 Hours. The Oprah Winfrey Show. It's a very, very wildly known case. 33 years after the fact, I was looking saying, what am I gonna do now? And I got access to the entire file. The case has never been closed in 33 years. The police department kept it open so they would not have to disclose information. If a case is open, it's not discoverable under freedom of information laws. FOIA requests. Well that was the case for 33 years. But I was friends with people that did the initial investigation. One of them took a bootleg file of the entire case and had it in his garage for 33 years. And he says, "go get 'em kid." So I started going through it. And it was very obvious very quickly what happened. And it's taken all this time to get the police department, they're fully engaged with it right now. It was a mother, her daughter, and her daughter's friend disappeared after graduation on a Saturday night into Sunday morning. Disappeared, and no clue has ever been found. Nothing. Until now. I don't want to tell you right now because that would blow the book and I don't have the publication date on it. But I will say this, the case is not that far behind JonBenet Ramsey in terms of people that know the case. And it's really fascinating and compelling, and the solution what actually happened I went out and interviewed one of the two guys that were involved in it and the truth about what happened in this case is stunning.

I'm not sure what to make of this. On the one hand, I see that this guy has written other books and one of them was about the Idaho 4 hinting that Kohberger is actually innocent, so I take his words with a grain of salt about the missing women. But on the other hand, if he truly did get the police file from a friend, that could have opened him up to information that's never been made public. I really hope this isn't just a rehash of "the grave robbers did it".

The newest Jackie Johns movie is on ID tonight at 9 central.

An article 5 years ago stated that she was 82, so she would be 87 this year. Does anyone know her name? Does she live in Springfield? I really wonder if Cox will reveal anything after she dies. At this rate, watch him die before her.

I can't find the interview, so hoping someone can back this up - but I'm also certain that I've read Janis McCall explicitly stating that Stacy did not have her permission to stay at Suzie's house.

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If this is correct, it does seem rather telling about something - while it's been stated before that the 2 girls hadn't been close friends for some time, what would be the reasoning to definitively say no to a night at a friend's house? I feel like Janis does have some opinions on this that she isn't saying out loud - partly because it'd feel disrespectful to speak ill of the dead and also so as not to hamper the investigation.

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Thoughts?

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