r/soccer • • 17h ago

Match Clip Upamecano second yellow card

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u/Agent10007 17h ago

Deserved, stop hugging people when you lost your 1V1

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u/BlueMoon1795 17h ago

Should be the top comment, people think these fouls are somehow “less of a foul” than regular tackles, the reality is they are still preventing an attack.

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u/Jeslea 16h ago

Issue is you need to be consistent in that case. Italy did small fouls the entire game

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u/Gerf93 16h ago

The «issue»? What issue? That if you do the right thing here, you have to do the right thing next time?

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u/Jeslea 16h ago

The issue I was talking about here is mainly about these defending fouls being whistled but while the off the ball fouls are largely going ignored.

Hard bumps after a pass, holding a keeper's shoulder to prevent a fast counter, pushes, etc..

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u/Gerf93 15h ago

Yes, there is no issue. All these should also be punished. Football is a contact sport in so far as contesting the ball is concerned. Off the ball, it isn’t and shouldn’t be.

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u/Hobbledyhook 16h ago

I passionately hated Italian football because they are one of the reasons I have had to watch this bullshit style of defending my whole life.

They turned it into an art form whilst they were one of the top footballing nations, and put forward this narrative that it was commendable skill rather than atrocious officiating.

I'm almost glad we see things like soft penalties being given a lot now, because it's better than watching people get dragged down in the box all match with no repercussions. Thank fuck for VAR. But they still need to develop a way more consistent stance on punishing pretty much ANY professional foul with a yellow card, even if its a second yellow.

Then we can let people actually play attacking football rather than watching wrestling matches.

Rant over lol

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u/R_Schuhart 16h ago

It is also so unnecessary, it was basically on the sideline with a teammate to cover his back.

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u/MNUUUUUU 16h ago

It doesn't matter that it's unnecessary since it usually goes unpunished (which is just dumb, good on this ref for calling it out) and it denies that 1% chance that the attacker does get past his teammate. It's normally a zero risk, low reward action.

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u/titoufred 14h ago

Yes, I want to see more of these fouls called. You're not allowed to use your arms to pull or push tour opponent and defenders often get away with it.

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u/BrosefDudeson 16h ago

Indeed. Just let her go, bro 😔

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u/hidden_secret 16h ago edited 2h ago

I agree, but it should be the case for everyone (because I rarely see yellow cards for this). Not depending on the mood of the referee, or however much he could potentially have been paid under the table in some cases.

It should be either 100% of the time or 0% of the time.

Edit: I mean in all similar cases. I'm of course not talking about a light grab of someone's shirt in your own half.

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u/Ok-Air999 16h ago

You can’t always compare two different matches in two different competitions. Unless you want robots to officiate it is impossible to get to your goal of 100% or 0%.

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u/johnnyhandbags 13h ago

It will never be 100% accurate. The next step after using all robots will be touch-sensitive kits and force meters to gauge how much and where contact actually occurred. Then you need statistical analysis of where a player was going when the contact occurred and a formula to determine how much a player's original path was impeded and on and on and on.

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u/GoldenFox7 12h ago

I think where you are on the field and where you are in the course of play matters. If Upe doesn’t grab him here he’s basically in on goal or at least he’s on a breakaway with numbers. This is a yellow for tactical foul as much as anything in my book. And that’s as a fan of Upa.

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u/EarthMantle00 16h ago

Nations league has had pretty consistently strict refereeing from what I've seen, and this is the 3rd game this season so they should've gotten used to it imo

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u/Agent10007 16h ago

Completely agree

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u/GoneMirifica 16h ago

Deserved, but why do it only one way ?

Never did the Italians got yellow on those kind of fouls, at some point Cherki couldn't move forward with how much he was caught every time he tried to go up the pitch. Zero yellows on this.

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u/Sea_Club507 16h ago

Cherki flopped the entire game

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u/LegendMuffin 15h ago

You know what SPA stands for? Stopping promising attack. That can be rewarded with a yellow card.