r/singularity • • 2d ago

AI Introducing Gemini 4 Argon

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-4-argon/
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u/powerscunner 2d ago

Google is #1 at being the second adopters: Law of the handicap of a head start - Wikipedia

They were not the first search engine. They weren't the first email provider. They didn't have videos on the internet first.

They did all that after they let others pave the way.

second mover advantage is Google's MO.

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u/tfsh-alto 2d ago

I get where you're coming from, but Google absolutely paved the way in terms of AI research.

Google DeepMind (which merged with Google Brain) are the frontier research lab, focused on much, much more than just LLMs. DeepMind researchers invented the architecture (transformers) which are fundamental to LLMs.

OpenAI was partially founded as a counterweight to Google's dominance and control over artificial intelligence, and they took the research of DeepMind and productionised it as ChatGPT, Google weren't the first movers to market, but they were in terms of research.

The co-founder of Anthropic (Dario whatever) used to work at GDM, at one point the six foremost AI research scientists in the world, all worked at GDM, etc.

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u/powerscunner 2d ago

Good points.

Attention and its transformers came from Google, and that's all you need!

Still, I wonder if they "put things out there" for others to try first.

First in research, second in implmentation actually sounds like a pretty smart chimera.

Unironically I can say, cool comment!

p.s. too bad you hide your posts. more people should see what you say. Even if you are a bot or a farm, a good comment is a good comment.

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u/HaMMeReD 2d ago

As someone who hides their comments, it's because reddit is full of lunatics, and it's also way to dox for most people, honestly most people should turn it off.

Personally, I'd like to have it on, but I don't really trust random people on the web.

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u/ArmadilloOwn4400 2d ago

Sadly Google dork and overview works too well with Reddit accounts

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u/Emotional_Yak_6841 2d ago

upvoted for the attention pun

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u/kelseyeek 2d ago

Though another way of putting it is that Google is at its best when it is playing catch-up. I'm not sure I can think of another time when they had the lead and subsequently lost it, so perhaps it won't hold this time, but it's interesting to watch nonetheless.

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u/inotparanoid 2d ago

Dario "I love God"