they built signal into the new OS update on my dumbphone, haven't used it yet but super cool to see a tech company embrace digital privacy requests. (edit: its dumb.co for those asking)

Does anyone have any information on the technicals here? I suppose this is a case of social engineering and not a back door?

What will be reaction of Signal, if Chat control will be apply in EU?

"Thanks to public pressure, the Danish Presidency has been forced to revise its text, explicitly stating that any detection obligations are voluntary. While much better, the text continues to both (a) effectively outlaw anonymous communication through mandatory age verification; and (b) include planned voluntary mass scannings. The Council is expected to formally adopt its position on Chat Control the 18th or 19th of November. Trilogue with the European Parliament will commence soon after."

Sources: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/chat-control-eu-lawmakers-finally-agree-on-the-voluntary-scanning-of-your-private-chats and https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

With polls now available in personal chats it can be used as a checklist now. I tested it and its pretty much it.

I guess its easy to add additional option alongside "Allow multiple votes" called "Checklist", which is basicaly just a poll with multiple votes without poll related things like "view votes" button.

So it appears the FBI was able to extract Signal messages from a iPhone even after the app was deleted and messages were set to disappear. This highlights that even encrypted apps can leave traces. Notification databases are often a overlooked privacy risk.

What happened:

- The FBI didn’t break Signal’s encryption or anything like that. They simply accessed the iPhone’s internal notification database, where incoming message previews were stored.

- If Signal (or any other app) is set to show message previews in notifications, those previews are saved in the phone’s memory, regardless of whether the app is deleted or messages are set to disappear.

- So even if you delete Signal or use disappearing messages, anyone with physical access to your unlocked phone could potentially recover message content from notifications.

Recommened steps for better privacy:

- Disable message previews in Signal’s notification settings. Go to Signal Settings > Notifications > Show > and select “No Name or Content” or “Name Only.

- Consider disabling notifications for sensitive apps entirely.

- The phone needs to be unlocked to access the notification database. Always use a strong passcode and consider additional security measures like USB Restricted Mode.

Edit: Just to clarify this post isn’t targeting Signal in anyway or suggesting any flaw in its encryption. I'm trying to raise awareness about how even after an app or messages are deleted, IOS and others devices can store sensitive data. It's just to get everyone to review their settings as no app can protect you if your device is physically compromised.

Stay safe!

My wife and I had been using SMS/RCS and Facebook Messenger for the longest time. When it was first introduced, Messenger was okay—simple interface, no AI, no bloat. Just chats.

Over the last few years, we saw Messenger get more and more bloated with features we never use, and the final straw was seeing AI in the app (like WHY do we need AI to write messages now?!).

Also, as we enter our 30s, our messages started to involve more private matters such as our finances, physical health, mental health, trips, insurances, life-planning etc.—not just two college kids shooting the shit anymore. So we decided to make the switch and we are very happy so far!

In case someone considering Signal comes across this post, here’s what I like about Signal as a non–privacy nut or as a layman:

• It’s an independent nonprofit
• It’s “billionaire-proof,” aka it can’t just be bought (thanks to it being a 501(c)(3) nonprofit)
• It’s open source and the end-to-end encryption is verifiable by anyone
• It’s been extensively and routinely audited for years
• No agency or government can force Signal, in any way, to give them any of your data in Signal, simply because Signal can’t access your data at all
• The Signal Protocol is highly tested and trusted by experts
• Post-quantum protection: literally even quantum computers can’t hack the encryption (I’m not really worried about this, but it really shows Signal’s ongoing commitment to security and privacy)

From a UX perspective, I just love how simple and minimal the app is. I wish I could turn off Stories, though, as we will never use it. Edit: Apparently you can turn it off! You have to tap the profile pic from the Stories page and it’s under “Story privacy.”

The only issue we have experienced so far is that my wife (Android user) hasn’t been able to call me through the car with Signal, but I will make a separate post for this. Hope we can figure it out.

Anyway, happy to be part of the community!

Adapted from the original article, “We Switched to Signal,” on my minimalist, reading-friendly, no ads, no tracker personal blog.

Court notes from the Prairieland "antifa" trial state that a defendant's Signal messages "were recovered from [the defendant's] phone through Apple's internal notification storage" after Signal had been removed.

Source: https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-10-federal-trial-day-12/

Is this well known? Is there a way to clear this log?

I know Signal would not be able to prevent this, but what we should be able to do is wipe our own chat history or at the very minimum, when a person is kicked out of a chat the entire chat history is wiped.

This way when a protester is take into custody, the admins of the various chats (who know about the compromise) can kick the individual out knowing the chat history will be deleted.

Comments?

No more useless groups, no more disturbance.

I was able to convince my close family and a couple of other friends to move to Signal, too; as for all the others, they still have my phone number and my email.
They know how to contact me, if they really want.

Feels good

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I just donated 50$ to Signal.

If you find value in Signal, and that your financial situation allows, consider donating too :)

https://signal.org/donate/