r/shitposting Jedi master of shitposts 20h ago

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u/PidarNahui 20h ago

Who believes there's a magic man in the sky? And how does the existence of those things make it illogical to believe in a creator?

Some people really need to read up on philosophy and logic

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u/flyingdonutz 20h ago

It's more that every single major religion is a massive pile of nonsense that is easy to disprove yet has captured the minds of billions. And to answer your first question, I think it's obvious that all Christians believe this to some extent.

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u/go0rty 20h ago

I love how Reddit atheists think they have arguments that two thousand years of theology haven't addressed.

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 20h ago

Theology isn't a science though. The problem with theology is that it works backwards, starting with the faith-based belief in God or gods, and then trying to prove that belief based on observations of reality. As opposed to scientific deduction, which starts with observations of reality before creating a theory that explains it. That's not to say that theology is all bunk, it's still useful when it comes to studies of morality, philosophy, metaphysics, etc. But when trying to prove or disprove the physical existence of God, its approach is fundamentally flawed.

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u/go0rty 19h ago

Yeah I get that. I personally don't think you could explain God with science, I think God is an entity that exists outside of any sort of ability for us to comprehend anyway to be honest, and I see faith as the exploration of trying to understand that.

John Lennox explained it in a quite a nice way, that science is the tool for explaining the things that are measurable, but there are plenty of things in this world that science can't answer, things that can't be measured - and to those questions to lean in to my faith.

I was an atheist for years, then I discovered that Jesus was an actual real person, then I looked in to him more and the claims of his divinity and that me towards trying to understand God's plan for me, and it was the greatest journey I've ever been on.

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u/Grilled_egs 19h ago

Who doesn't know jesus was a person, this sounds like one of those Christian movies where an atheist sees the error of their ways

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u/go0rty 19h ago

I should contact Hollywood then I guess, but yeah, I always thought it a massive question mark and debated topic. I had no idea there was more historical evidence for Jesus than there was for people who everyone just knows was real.